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World Track Championships - Melbourne 4/8 April - Warning contains unmasked spoilers

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  • 03-04-2012 1:39pm
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    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭


    Events kick off in Melbourne tomorrow with the Mens Team Pursuit, men and Women's Team Sprints and men's scratch races

    Full programme here

    Official website

    Ireland have sent a team of 3, with Martyn Irvine looking to secure his place in the Olympic Omnium (I'll do a separate post on what he needs to do later on) on Thursday and Friday, and Caroline Ryan and locally based Shannon McCurley available to compete in the individual pursuit, scratch and points races

    TV Coverage is available on the BBC (red button) at 10am (live coverage) and 7pm (highlights) each day, with BBC 2 showing highlights on Sunday afternoon, 2.30 until 5pm. British Eurosport 1 will have live coverage from 10am each day

    Please note that we tend not to use spoiler tags for track events, even though they extend over several days (as we'd then end up with a debate on whether to have separate threads for each event, which gets even more complicated with the omnium which runs over 2 days!). Hence once the event starts do not click on this thread if you do not want to see spoiler information


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Martyn Irvine is currently in 7th place in the European qualification rankings for the Olympics. The World Championships are the final qualifying event, and Martyn needs to be ranked in the top 8 to qualify. Ireland currently has 785 points, ahead of Poland (700), Denmark (670), The Netherlands (498) and Turkey (343). There are other European teams that have more points than Turkey, but have not qualified a rider for the World Championships, so cannot overhaul Ireland in the rankings

    There are 500 points available for the winner, 320 for 2nd, 240 (3rd), 220, 200 and so on down to 30 points for participating (without being disqualified). That means Turkey would need to win the event and the Netherlands would need to be in the top 2 to overhaul him (assuming he is not disqualified) - both scenarios are very unlikely, particularly as the Netherlands have not sent their best rider, and virtually all of the World's top riders will be there. Hence the only realistic opposition for the Olympic place are Poland and Denmark, and both would need to overtake Ireland to stop Martyn qualifying. Essentially to get past Ireland the Dane would need to finish in the top 2 (again very unlikely) or at least 6 places ahead of Ireland if both are in the top 12

    FWIW, Martyn is currently 6th in the World rankings, although he has been at every event, and some of the stronger teams send different riders. Having said that, based on his performances so far this season a top 5 finish is a realistic possibility, although it may make more sense to play safe in some of the events to ensure Olympic qualification.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭shaungil


    I am sooooo excited about this for Martyn. To qualify for the Olmpics would be a phenomonal acheivment for a guy who was a couch potato till he was 19 in a sport where he still has so much to learn. Fingers and all appendages crossed for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭morana


    GErmany and columbia arent going and they usually finish ahead of him so thats a plus


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    morana wrote: »
    GErmany and columbia arent going and they usually finish ahead of him so thats a plus
    Are you sure they are not going? Neither have their top rider there, but each have a rider that has Omnium ranking points - Puerta Zapata Fabian Hernando for Colombia and Niklas Arndt for Germany, and both countries have qualification places available. It's actually better if the best riders are available, as they are more likely to deprive Poland and Denmark of additional points

    It will be interesting to see if Ed Clancy rides - he's probably going to be in the Team Pursuit tomorrow, which means Ben Swift may get the nod for the Omnium


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Yellow Jersey


    Very good article today on what's what (for Team GB) in Melbourne and who the top contenders are.

    Germany are listed.

    Thanks for the input Beasty.

    Good luck to Martyn.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/17597149


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Ed Clancy confirmed as the GB representative in the Omnium, having been part of the team that recorded the fastest qualifying time for the Team Pursuit final later on today

    Colombia don't have a representative, but Germany do. The Netherlands have put in a Michael Vingerling, who is currently ranked 70th in the World, so looks unlikely to get the top 2 place needed to have any chance of overhauling Martyn. Belgium have put in their 2nd ranked rider, Gijs van Hoecke, although he is only a few places behind their top ranked rider in 27th. All the other teams have pretty much their strongest riders declared.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    World record for Thomas, Clancy, Kennaugh and Burke taking gold for GB in the Team Pursuit


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    GB DQ from team sprint !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    That scratch race is mad stuff altogether but I enjoyed it. Reminds me of the final stage of the Tour de France where some no-hopers would go on an ambitious breakaway and get some time on camera before being swallowed up innevitably. It must be close to impossible to lap the peleton on your own in that race!

    That poor Austrian ran out of gas in the last lap. Like a lamb to the slaughter.

    Heading to Hisense Arena on Friday night and Sunday afternoon. It's not a sport I know much about but I'll post an update afterwards anyway.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Ben Swift won the Scratch race

    GB were disqualified from the Team Sprint for "swinging out too early"!


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Mens Omnium, Day 1

    Martyn Irvine's campaign gets under way at (if everything goes to schedule) just after 7.30 Thursday morning our time. Unlike the World Cup events, there's no pre-qualification race to worry about, it's straight into the competition proper with the Flying lap (or "Tour lancé") - basically a couple of laps to build up then all-out for a lap to record a time over 250m.

    Next up, around 10.45am, is the points race, with the elimination race closing off proceedings at around 2.15pm

    The first day is generally considered the weaker of the two for Martyn. He tends to do OK in the points race but having been disqualified from the elimination race in one of the World Cup events earlier in the season, he will be grateful to get through the day unscathed, and hopefully in a position to attack the second day's events.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Good start for Martyn

    8th place in the flying lap. Clancy first and the only other Europeans ahead of him are France, Germany and Denmark (one place ahead in 7th)

    Poland are in 20th, the Netherlands 16th and Turkey 17th


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Points race now on - Picks up a point in the 3rd sprint to go into equal 7th

    The Dane has 3 points, and the Pole none


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Another 3 points in the 5th sprint takes him up to 6th


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    2nd place in the final sprint moves him up to 8th place, 2 behind Denmark, with Poland 11th, Turkey 13 and the Netherlands 20th

    Puts him in 8th after 2 events (16 points), Denmark 5th (13), Poland 17th (30), Turkey 16th (30), The Netherlands 20th (36)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    GB take another second off the World record they set yesterday to take the Women's Team Pursuit - must make them just about the hottest favourites for any cycling event at London


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    Cheers for the updates Beasty, what does Caroline Ryan have to do to qualify for London?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    SomeFool wrote: »
    Cheers for the updates Beasty, what does Caroline Ryan have to do to qualify for London?
    She can't - she's at this very moment in the women's points race and will also be taking on her specialist event the Individual Pursuit, but neither are Olympic events

    Ireland has not qualified any women's places for track cycling, although there was talk of her attempting to qulaify for the road racing by getting in the top 100 world ranked riders


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    I'm watching it but have to confess my track cycling knowlege is limited enough, a few ex rowers involved though!


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    She's given herself a real chance of a medal by taking a lap with 3 others - up to 3rd place with 35 laps to go


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Bronze for Caroline Ryan!!


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Bronze for Ryan - fantastic ride - she had to work hard to bridge to the break and then later on to defend her position.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    woo hoo
    world bronze medal :)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,427 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Reminder re spoilers - no separate threads about this until at least tomorrow

    Thanks

    Beasty


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭morana


    great ride first ever medal at the track worlds for Ireland I think!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Yellow Jersey


    I know Caroline reads/writes on Boards, so well done Caroline, 15 years of hard work in rowing then cycling, a real champion :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,013 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    morana wrote: »
    great ride first ever medal at the track worlds for Ireland I think!

    Wikipedia says 1 gold and 1 bronze.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCI_Track_Cycling_World_Championships

    ...and then there's the masters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭morana


    Lumen wrote: »
    Wikipedia says 1 gold and 1 bronze.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCI_Track_Cycling_World_Championships

    ...and then there's the masters.

    in the modern era I meant to say ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Superb ride by Caroline.
    Good luck to her in the IP and she's already cemented her place in Irish cycling history.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    she got a mention on the 2pm news on newstalk, well done to her!


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