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WIZE · 16-02-2012, 20:40

Hi All

I'm a happy owner of Westies and would never dream of letting my dogs wonder the streets .

when bringing my dogs for a walk I dislike dogs wondering over to my dogs with no sign of the owners .

Where I live there are loads of cats wondering the streets doing what they want when they want .

Do you think its acceptable and responsible as a pet owner to let your Cat or Dog wonder the streets ?

irelandspurs · 16-02-2012, 20:43

Do you see many people taking there cat for a walk on a lead.There different animals and can be handled differently.

Ophiopogon · 16-02-2012, 20:45

This topic had been done to death and it always ends up in circles.

are you serious · 16-02-2012, 20:46

Where I am I have seen probably one maybe two dogs out roaming on there own, probably strays...

In the same period of time I have seen possibly 15 cats, 3 of which are owned by the next door neighbour roaming.

I, as you all know have 2 dogs Buddy and Izzy.

Buddy has cornered a cat on one occasion.. tail wagging wanting to play it was so funny...

Izzy on the other had since the day I brought her home has displayed what I can only discribe as pure hatred for cats. If when she gets a bit older happens to catch a cat god help it!!

My answer to your question is no absolutely not, it is not acceptable not for a cat or a dog...

irelandspurs · 16-02-2012, 20:48

Animals have as much right to be on this planet as do you and i.

WIZE · 16-02-2012, 20:52

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Originally Posted by irelandspurs

Do you see many people taking there cat for a walk on a lead.There different animals and can be handled differently.

No I see cats dead at the side of the road every few weeks . I also see lots of dead birds and cat ****e in my Garden but I guess that's acceptable to the owners .

gud4u · 16-02-2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by irelandspurs

Animals have as much right to be on this planet as do you and i.

Ah, but we don't run around peeing and pooping on pavements, jumping up on people to clean our shoes and sniffing each others butts, so I guess cats and dogs need a little more control.

Maybe some people do.....on a saturday night...whatever you're in to.

WIZE · 16-02-2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by irelandspurs

Animals have as much right to be on this planet as do you and i.

What do you mean by this in relation to this thread

Slksht · 16-02-2012, 20:54

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Originally Posted by garkane

If when she gets a bit older happens to catch a cat god help it!!

You mean God help your dog! If a Dog tried to fight a cat the cat will win every time. They go for the eyes with their claws... nasty!

No it is not acceptable for any pet to roam the streets imo. The "they have as much right..." argument is bull! By that logic it is perfectly acceptable for me to throw a spear at a apassing cat or dog and cook it on my fire. Seriously going to use that as an argument??

Cats are a hard one because by their nature they want to wander around. I do not like this though and would prefer they didn't but realistically, there is not such a solution.

Slksht · 16-02-2012, 20:58

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Originally Posted by WIZE

What do you mean by this in relation to this thread

Your original post was much better haha

gigawatt · 16-02-2012, 20:58

by law dogs are the responsibility of the owner, cats are not.
dogs should not be allowed to wander as they have a stronger guarding instinct than a cat and would be more likely to attack a human being than a cat would. a cat will generally shy away if approached by a stranger, and if chased by a dog, it will usually try to escape, only standing its ground if cornered.
the part I dont understand is why anyone cares if there are cats wandering in their neighbourhood considering that they keep vermin levels low.
before anyone jumps to conclusions I have both cats and dogs and I adore them equally. They are different species and different rules apply to them based on their behavioral instincts.

are you serious · 16-02-2012, 20:58

slkshtIf dogs were let out and did not require a licence (yeah i know not all have one anyway) they would roam a hell of a lot longer and further than any cat would!

pawrick · 16-02-2012, 21:08

I definitely don't think it's responsible. My main reason is that it is likely your pet will end up injured through fighting with other cats/dogs or hit by a car and killed, by allowing them roam you are increasing the risk to your pets life.

I also don't think it's acceptable to allow pets to roam - wild animals yes but pets no. Cats are the ones which come in for most stick on this and with good reason given the attitude of some owners who expect their neighbours to accommodate someone else's pet. I think this turns a lot of people against cats.

TskTsk · 16-02-2012, 21:12

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Originally Posted by WIZE

Do you think its acceptable and responsible as a pet owner to let your Cat or Dog wonder the streets ?

When I was growing up, the idea of owning a dog but having to keep it locked up all day long would have been a totally alien concept. Dogs haven't changed in 20 years, but society has. Litigation and general intolerance have lead us to the point where people actually consider concepts like a 'cat license', or preventing a cat from roaming to be perfectly rational.

Personally speaking, I'd have no problem with the vast majority of dogs being allowed to wander around their locality, apart from the more aggressive breeds which I do think need to be restricted for obvious safety reasons. If it means I have to scoop up the odd dog poo from my garden or put up with them peeing on my car wheels, I'll suffer it. Dogs were part of neighbourhood life all over this country until the 90s. Nowadays, seeing a dog running around enjoying himself is reason enough to make people stop and stare (and usually give out).

As someone else has already mentioned, we aren't the only species on this planet and we need to bear that in mind.

irelandspurs · 16-02-2012, 21:19

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Originally Posted by pawrick

I definitely don't think it's responsible. My main reason is that it is likely your pet will end up injured through fighting with other cats/dogs or hit by a car and killed, by allowing them roam you are increasing the risk to your pets life.

I also don't think it's acceptable to allow pets to roam - wild animals yes but pets no. Cats are the ones which come in for most stick on this and with good reason given the attitude of some owners who expect their neighbours to accommodate someone else's pet. I think this turns a lot of people against cats.

would you like to be locked up 24 hours a day?

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WIZE Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: WIZE Posts: 3,196 Adverts \| Friends	Pet Cats roaming -V- Pet Dogs roaming Hi All I'm a happy owner of Westies and would never dream of letting my dogs wonder the streets . when bringing my dogs for a walk I dislike dogs wondering over to my dogs with no sign of the owners . Where I live there are loads of cats wondering the streets doing what they want when they want . Do you think its acceptable and responsible as a pet owner to let your Cat or Dog wonder the streets ?

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16-02-2012, 20:43	#2
irelandspurs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Laois but from the uk Posts: 1,478 Adverts \| Friends	Do you see many people taking there cat for a walk on a lead.There different animals and can be handled differently.

16-02-2012, 20:45	#3
Ophiopogon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,150 Adverts \| Friends	This topic had been done to death and it always ends up in circles.

16-02-2012, 20:46	#4
are you serious Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dublin Posts: 777 Adverts \| Friends	Where I am I have seen probably one maybe two dogs out roaming on there own, probably strays... In the same period of time I have seen possibly 15 cats, 3 of which are owned by the next door neighbour roaming. I, as you all know have 2 dogs Buddy and Izzy. Buddy has cornered a cat on one occasion.. tail wagging wanting to play it was so funny... Izzy on the other had since the day I brought her home has displayed what I can only discribe as pure hatred for cats. If when she gets a bit older happens to catch a cat god help it!! My answer to your question is no absolutely not, it is not acceptable not for a cat or a dog...

16-02-2012, 20:48	#5
irelandspurs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Laois but from the uk Posts: 1,478 Adverts \| Friends	Animals have as much right to be on this planet as do you and i.

16-02-2012, 20:58	#11
gigawatt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 369 Adverts \| Friends	by law dogs are the responsibility of the owner, cats are not. dogs should not be allowed to wander as they have a stronger guarding instinct than a cat and would be more likely to attack a human being than a cat would. a cat will generally shy away if approached by a stranger, and if chased by a dog, it will usually try to escape, only standing its ground if cornered. the part I dont understand is why anyone cares if there are cats wandering in their neighbourhood considering that they keep vermin levels low. before anyone jumps to conclusions I have both cats and dogs and I adore them equally. They are different species and different rules apply to them based on their behavioral instincts.

16-02-2012, 21:08	#13
pawrick Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rosmeathdub Posts: 662 Adverts \| Friends	I definitely don't think it's responsible. My main reason is that it is likely your pet will end up injured through fighting with other cats/dogs or hit by a car and killed, by allowing them roam you are increasing the risk to your pets life. I also don't think it's acceptable to allow pets to roam - wild animals yes but pets no. Cats are the ones which come in for most stick on this and with good reason given the attitude of some owners who expect their neighbours to accommodate someone else's pet. I think this turns a lot of people against cats.