Poxy Hospital waiting times to be treated

Jesus christ I hate this kip of a country and its third world service.

My daughter is in the Mater with a friend waiting since 6 o clock this evening, still havent been seen by a doctor. Nurse came and took bloods from her friend about three hours ago, said Doctor would be by soon, they are still waiting.

My daughter told me there was an elderly man in a wheelchair, and she noticed he was on the verge on falling off, so she pointed it out to the staff, who told her 'ah hes grand...' then the old man got up, maybe to stretch his legs, go to the bathroom, dont know, but then someone came and took the chair, so when the old guy got back his wheelchair was gone.

Shes been telling me ' mam you wouldnt believe what Im seeing here, they way people are being treated.Shes really upset over it.

James O Rielly, f****** Harney with a beard. DO SOMETHING.

they finally got seen too at 4.00 this morning. I had to go to the hospital as my daughter was so upset. Also had to bring her a flask of tea as there is no where to get a drink in the place. Saturday night in A&E, drunks staggering around, few junkies. Place is a kip. Youd be better off hopping on a ferry to England and using their A&E services.


This town really needs a drunk tank. When you are sick and in pain you really shouldnt have to worry about your bleedin safety as well.

:mad:

Tonto86

What was she in A&E for?

Tonto86

Tonto86 wrote: »

What was she in A&E for?

She was there with a friend who was ill.

Kiera

Have you just arrived in Ireland for the first time?

LaFlammeRouge

Jake1 wrote: »

She was there with a friend who was ill.

Could the friend have not gone to a GP instead. Many people rock up to A&E unnecessarily and waste everyones time. If the nurse suspects you are a time waster they let you wait.

mikom

Jake1 wrote: »

She was there with a friend who was ill.

What sort of illness?

dxhound2005

Jake1 wrote: »

they finally got seen too at 4.00 this morning. I had to go to the hospital as my daughter was so upset. Also had to bring her a flask of tea as there is no where to get a drink in the place. Saturday night in A&E, drunks staggering around, few junkies. Place is a kip. Youd be better off hopping on a ferry to England and using their A&E services.


This town really needs a drunk tank. When you are sick and in pain you really shouldnt have to worry about your bleedin safety as well.

:mad:

These PS workers with their cushy numbers working at 4 in the morning.

gcgirl

Luckily I have only been in a children's hospital, in decent health myself apart from the knees, but what do you expect from such an pack of wasters, if we thought ff was bad wait till fg really fook us up

R.D. aka MR.D

Jake1 wrote: »

Jesus christ I hate this kip of a country and its third world service.

I was treated in A&E in a 'third word' country and in Ireland within the space of 4 months and calling the service i got in Ireland a third world service is an insult to the amazing doctors and service I got in that other country.

Mint Sauce

Not A&E but once was told could expect to wait 9 months to see a specialist in the public clinic, paid €70 to see her privately and was seen the following week in the same consult room as her public patients.

Jake1 wrote: »

She was there with a friend who was ill.

I think what tonto means was, what was she being treated for? was she triaged and considered to be an none urgant case? could it have been treated by a GP?

I have spent 3 to 4 hours in A&E for a suspected broken wrist on a friday morning, had I gone in on a friday night could have expected to be there twice as long.

dxhound2005

Drunk time wasters in A&E in the UK as well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/front_page/newsid_9551000/9551239.stm

senorwipesalot

When I read the title "Poxy Hospital waiting times " I expected the thread to be a rant about STD clinics.
Sorry OP.

dxhound2005

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

I was treated in A&E in a 'third word' country and in Ireland within the space of 4 months and calling the service i got in Ireland a third world service is an insult to the amazing doctors and service I got in that other country.

You don't have to be so vague. What country?

trishasaffron

LaFlammeRouge wrote: »

Could the friend have not gone to a GP instead. Many people rock up to A&E unnecessarily and waste everyones time. If the nurse suspects you are a time waster they let you wait.

That's always been my view too. But late last year I had a sudden collapse at home one evening, fainted and hit my head on the floor. In my usual stoic fashion I just went to bed but felt so bad in the morning I stayed home from work - when I didn't feel well after resting I eventually rang my GP who immediately called an ambulance and sent me to A&E. Turned out some meds I had taken had caused a dramatic loss of sodium which had caused the collapse and I was kept in for 24 hours on a drip.

One of the many many doctors I saw kept at me "why did you not come in to A&E immediately?" I tried to explain that the last thing that would occur to me was to clog up A&E with a minor event. But given his skepticism and obsession with the fact that on the forms I had admitted that I sometimes drank wine with my meals I finally guessed that he thought I had been drunk. I laughed - since that evening I hadn't had anything to drink - and asked him if that was what he was getting at - but he still persisted. Once the blood results came in I never saw that doc again but I was quite cross at his assumptions.

gosuckonalemon

Jake1 wrote: »

Jesus christ I hate this kip of a country and its third world service.

My daughter is in the Mater with a friend waiting since 6 o clock this evening, still havent been seen by a doctor. Nurse came and took bloods from her friend about three hours ago, said Doctor would be by soon, they are still waiting.

My daughter told me there was an elderly man in a wheelchair, and she noticed he was on the verge on falling off, so she pointed it out to the staff, who told her 'ah hes grand...' then the old man got up, maybe to stretch his legs, go to the bathroom, dont know, but then someone came and took the chair, so when the old guy got back his wheelchair was gone.

Shes been telling me ' mam you wouldnt believe what Im seeing here, they way people are being treated.Shes really upset over it.

James O Rielly, f****** Harney with a beard. DO SOMETHING.

I'm getting the impression it can't have been that much of an emergency.

Why wait til the weekend to go, of course it's going to be clogged.

You can't blame the government for drunk people clogging up hospitals.

Also, why did your daughter not stop the person from taking the wheelchair?

iguana

LaFlammeRouge wrote: »

Could the friend have not gone to a GP instead. Many people rock up to A&E unnecessarily and waste everyones time. If the nurse suspects you are a time waster they let you wait.

I was in Tallaght last month after being referred by my GP urgently. I was seen by the nurse in triage, had my case put down as urgent priority, was told by the patient liason officer that the only way I could be a higher priority was if I needed resuscitation. I was in the waiting room for 16 hours.

After the first 5 hours the nurse gave me oxycontin for the pain, known as hillbilly heroin, and sent me back to the waiting room. So I spent the next 8 hours on a weird high and the last few hours scratching like mad, which is typical of oxycontin withdrawal.

Then once I was admitted to A&E I got to spend the next 6 hours on a trolley by a doorway to the outside which people walked through every few minutes and never shut, so I was absolutely freezing. I had it good compared to the girl next to me who was waiting on a brain scan and lost her trolley to another patient when she went to the toilet.

But it's ok, our hospitals are clearly great as we can afford to spend €3m a year on communion outfits.

Cianos

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

I'm getting the impression it can't have been that much of an emergency.

Why wait til the weekend to go, of course it's going to be clogged.

You can't blame the government for drunk people clogging up hospitals.

Also, why did your daughter not stop the person from taking the wheelchair?

Yes you can.

lividduck

Thank god for for Private Health Insurance

byhookorbycrook

I was in A and E three times last year and waited a minimum of 6 hours to be taken in the first time(by which time my appendix had burst.)I was triaged and the doctor who saw me decided it WASN'T my appendix, as according to him, they had removed it previously. Only for the nurses I would probably have died-and that's according to another doctor, not me being over-dramatic.

I spend two days on a trolley, that was shoved into one of the day-wards,despite the fact that I am high-risk of infection due to meds I take. They didn't have any of my pain meds in stock,which could happen, but took my own supply and then lost it.

I became very dehydrated due to reactions to the anti-bios and was very weak. When I finally escaped,there was no wheelchair for me to use to get to the car so my husband literally had to search the corridors to find one.He then had to go all the way round to the fee-charging car park, so I was sitting outside the front door for 20 mins,too weak to move inside.

I was re-admitted due to a pelvic abscess in a short space of time, 8 hrs in A and E this time by which time x-ray and ultra-sound were closed.Another trolley and then they lost my notes for 36 hours.Only that I always ask what a drug/tablet is,what dosage and why it is being given to me,I would have been given a) a wrong drug and b) an overdose of another.

Admitted a 3rd time, by which point my gp went on the warpath
and I "only" waited 8 hours for a bed.

As long as our tds etc have private insurance and can skip queues,we won't see any improvement.

44leto

Unfortunately I have seen our health service at its best, my father is unwell and my 2 sister in laws both got cancer but now they have fully recovered. The treatment once you get into the system is world class and unbelievably good.

But its getting into the system in the first place. But if you are really sick with a life threatening illness you will get into the system.

But I have also seen it at its worse, mainly the A and E and people on waiting lists for certain operations.

Kiera

lividduck wrote: »

Thank god for for Private Health Insurance

You dont get seen to any faster in A&E if you have private health insurance.

gosuckonalemon

Cianos wrote: »

Yes you can.

What can they do? Make it illegal for drunk people to attend A&E? If not, then you can't.

Benny_Cake

44leto wrote: »

Unfortunately I have seen our health service at its best, my father is unwell and my 2 sister in laws both got cancer but now they have fully recovered. The treatment once you get into the system is world class and unbelievably good.

But its getting into the system in the first place. But if you are really sick with a life threatening illness you will get into the system.

But I have also seen it at its worse, mainly the A and E and people on waiting lists for certain operations.

You put your finger on it there - the bottleneck is in accessing the system, getting tests done and so on. Once you get through, the devotion to duty and professionalism of the majority of staff is quite something. The length of time it takes to get diagnosed is pretty disgraceful though.

Cianos

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

What can they do? Make it illegal for drunk people to attend A&E? If not, then you can't.

The A&Es and the procedures surrounding them, including the processing of drunk people, is the governments responsibility. There shouldn't be such apathetic tolerance for them being 'clogged up' at any time, whether there are drunks involved or not.

lividduck

Kiera wrote: »

You dont get seen to any faster in A&E if you have private health insurance.

you do in the Beacon, Mater Private, and Swiftcare

Kiera

lividduck wrote: »

you do in the Beacon, Mater Private, and Swiftcare

And they have an A&E dept, do they?

gosuckonalemon

Cianos wrote: »

The A&Es and the procedures surrounding them, including the processing of drunk people, is the governments responsibility. There shouldn't be such apathetic tolerance for them being 'clogged up' at any time, whether there are drunks involved or not.

Drunk people have to be treated the same as everybody else. Unless there is a special unit for drunks (which would never happen) then there is nothing the government can do to stop the problem. It's a simple unavoidable consequence of a nation with a serious drinking problem.

byhookorbycrook

lividduck wrote: »

you do in the Beacon, Mater Private, and Swiftcare

Some of those do not have full A and E and not all of us are in Dublin!!

lividduck

Kiera wrote: »

And they have an A&E dept, do they?

Yes they do, Im been to a&e at both Swifcare in Dundrum and at the Beacon in Sandyford, and Mater Private advertise theirs on radio

lividduck

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Some of those do not have full A and E and not all of us are in Dublin!!

reading the posts most "public" hospitals dont have fullA&E either.
Lets face it public care is dangerously bad.

44leto

Benny_Cake wrote: »

You put your finger on it there - the bottleneck is in accessing the system, getting tests done and so on. Once you get through, the devotion to duty and professionalism of the majority of staff is quite something. The length of time it takes to get diagnosed is pretty disgraceful though.

Even the access you get to world class consultants and no expense is spared, one of my sis in laws got medication at nearly 5 grand a pill, cutting edge medication and it saved her life. Its impressive treatment and as you said the level of the professionalism would equal any of the American hospitals.

But its getting there, I know someone who is in the system for his crohns disease, which is top class, but now he is on a waiting list to get treatment for a heart complaint, its another system. Which struck me as odd.

But if you require non urgent treatment they are really saying to you "go private".

Kiera

lividduck wrote: »

Yes they do, Im been to a&e at both Swifcare in Dundrum and at the Beacon in Sandyford, and Mater Private advertise theirs on radio

Right, i can see you're not grasping this. These are clinics. They are not 24hr A&E. The beacon doesnt even open on a Sunday ffs! No point in having private health insurance if you needed to see A&E in the Beacon.

Swiftcare means feck all to people with Aviva and Quinn. you have to pay €120 up front and claim it back at the end of the year. The Mater private is a clinic which you need to be referred to.

mikom

mikom wrote: »

What sort of illness?

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Waiting times not too much better around here it seems........

Cianos

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

Drunk people have to be treated the same as everybody else. Unless there is a special unit for drunks (which would never happen) then there is nothing the government can do to stop the problem. It's a simple unavoidable consequence of a nation with a serious drinking problem.

I agree that it's an unavoidable problem, but that doesn't mean it should be just brushed off and the government excused because of it. It is a problem, their problem, and they should be working to solve it.

The lazy attitude of letting problems fester until they're just accepted as the norm is quite common in this country's successive governments.

mikom

mikom wrote: »

What sort of illness?

mikom wrote: »

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Waiting times not too much better around here it seems........

"Nurse!!"

gcgirl

Kiera wrote: »

lividduck wrote: »

you do in the Beacon, Mater Private, and Swiftcare

And they have an A&E dept, do they?

The beacon has an excuse of one, I read on here about them letting one of our boards members having a heart attack and they were useless he had to be carted of to an actual hospital to be treated and all the receptioness tried to do was get his card details

gosuckonalemon

Cianos wrote: »

I agree that it's an unavoidable problem, but that doesn't mean it should be just brushed off and the government excused because of it. It is a problem, their problem, and they should be working to solve it.

The lazy attitude of letting problems fester until they're just accepted as the norm is quite common in this country's successive governments.

I stated the government cannot stop drinking excessively and ending up in A&E. You said they can.

You have yet to say how.

Corruptedmorals

I was in A&E in Vegas last year, there was people fuming after waiting just one hour, after 2 hours loads of people stormed out. Found it quite amusing.

I haven't experienced A&E here though, only through my sister. She waited almost a day in Blanch A&E who told her they'd have to send her home because she needed an ultrasound and they didn't have one (????). Tallaght A&E the next day had her waiting 16 hours for a scan, only to misdiagnose appendicitis as a urinary tract infection. Could well have burst before they copped on, as indeed happens to loads of people here.

PhlegmyMoses

I've been to A&E twice. The last time I was there was for an abscess that formed close to my spine from an in-grown hair. I was in agony for days before finally going to the doctor who referred me to the hospital. When I got there, I was seen by a triage nurse, jabbed with some sort of morphine derivative and taken to a bed within the hour. I was operated on the next morning. I went on a Tuesday morning.

When I damaged my knee ligaments I was in the waiting section of A&E for around 6 hours before a doctor saw me, then I was sent home with some crutches and some pain killers and operated on a couple of moths later. This time I was in on a Saturday afternoon. It seems to depend on the day that you go in and the severity of your situation. The Saturday visit had all the hallmarks of the OP - junkies, an old drunk pissing himself in his seat etc and a bit of casual racism towards a black woman by a couple of scumbags. The Tuesday morning visit was as pleasant as could be, given the circumstances.

mikom

"Nurse, I need the commode!!"

Kiera

mikom wrote: »

"Nurse, I need the commode!!"

If you dont hush, i'll fit you with a colostomy bag and catheter :P

cynder

Been to a and e too many times over the last few years. 6 year old gashed his head, 4 hour wait. cork.


i had a ulcer or gall stones sent in by gp, 6 hour wait, no treatment told to book a private scan. Limerick.

Husband no wait. Checked over given all clear Said 150 euro please now you can go home, Galway clinic private hospital.


Daughter had to call ambulance, seen immediately. limerick. 3 hours in a and e transfered to ward . Diabetic ketoacidosis


daughter had to call ambulance seen immediately, temple st. 4 hours in a and e till she was stable then transfered to ward. Hypoglycemia.


daughter took in by car seen within 10 mins. Ennis. Treated sent home. Broken nose.

Daughter took in by car limerick seen within 1 hour. Limerick. treated sent home. High blood sugars, ketones.

Daughter seen within 30 mins. Ennis. torn ligaments.


Daughter took in by car seen immediately, limerick. Gp phoned ahead. Spent 8 hours in resuscitation until they were happy she wasn't going into a coma, then transfered to ward. Diabetic ketoacidosis.

Cianos

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

I stated the government cannot stop drinking excessively and ending up in A&E. You said they can.

You have yet to say how.

I didn't say that. I said that you can (and should) blame the government for the fact that drunk people are causing the A&Es to be clogged up.

There should be measures implemented to stop the A&Es from being clogged up (and this may well have nothing to do with the handling of drunk people), and it is their responsibility to implement those measures.

fishy fishy

Jake1 wrote: »

Jesus christ I hate this kip of a country and its third world service.

My daughter is in the Mater with a friend waiting since 6 o clock this evening, still havent been seen by a doctor. Nurse came and took bloods from her friend about three hours ago, said Doctor would be by soon, they are still waiting.

My daughter told me there was an elderly man in a wheelchair, and she noticed he was on the verge on falling off, so she pointed it out to the staff, who told her 'ah hes grand...' then the old man got up, maybe to stretch his legs, go to the bathroom, dont know, but then someone came and took the chair, so when the old guy got back his wheelchair was gone.

Shes been telling me ' mam you wouldnt believe what Im seeing here, they way people are being treated.Shes really upset over it.

James O Rielly, f****** Harney with a beard. DO SOMETHING.

maybe you could organise a protest to highlight it.

drkpower

Cianos wrote: »

stop the A&Es from being clogged up (and this may well have nothing to do with the handling of drunk people), and it is their responsibility to implement those measures.

Such as?

cocoshovel

Since 6? They haven't even been waiting 3 hours. They're in for a surprise

I heard that in Dublin the waiting times are often about 8 hours, and this can hold up Ambulance crews who brought in patients and cant leave until the patient gets a bed.

Waterford wait times from my experience are about 3 hours when A&E is quiet. There's no point complaining to the workers there or about them because **** sake they can't do anything about the wait times either. They have an extremely stressful and long job.

Last time I was in A&E there was a girl there complaining and swearing about everything and how she wasn't being treated quick enough. She went to the hospital for a "sick stomach". Stupid bítch. Its people like her that clog up the entire system, and later on in the night it will be drunks.

gsxr1

Cant fault the staff. I have many broken limbs and if your case is serious, you will get priority. If you go in needing a few stitches, you may need a good book.


I have always found the Doctors and nurses to be nothing less than caring, kind and great at their very stressful jobs. Its not their fault they are understaffed .

They are the people on the front line of our health service and seem to be the ones who suffer most from cuts.. its bull sh1t TBH.

gosuckonalemon

Cianos wrote: »

I didn't say that. I said that you can (and should) blame the government for the fact that drunk people are causing the A&Es to be clogged up.

Again, how can you blame the government for people drinking too much and ending up in A&E??

gosuckonalemon

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

I'm getting the impression it can't have been that much of an emergency.

Why wait til the weekend to go, of course it's going to be clogged.

You can't blame the government for drunk people clogging up hospitals.

Also, why did your daughter not stop the person from taking the wheelchair?

Sorry but when an emergency happens, I donk think it choses time very well. it happened yesterday which happened to be at the weekend.

My daughter is 17 thats probably why she didnt feel comfortable stopping anyone, so she tried to do the right thing by telling the security man.

username123

Kiera wrote: »

Swiftcare means feck all to people with Aviva and Quinn. you have to pay €120 up front and claim it back at the end of the year.

I have VHI and I still had to pay full whack last time I used Swiftcare, it depends on your policy.
Dont you have to pay in a public A&E as well? I know its less, but its still substantial, 60 or 80 euro (can anyone confirm?)

If I had some kind of painful but non life threatening injury, like a broken arm, I would far far prefer to pay the 40 or 50 odd quid extra to go to Swiftcare and be seen within 3 minutes than wait 16 hours in a public A&E.

However, if I had a suspected stroke or heart issue Id far rather go straight to a public A&E.