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Sesshoumaru · 31-12-2011, 16:55

So I finally got to go to my local Tesco and plug-in while shopping.

I think it's great these are becoming more common. You'll never have to worry about range for urban / suburban driving if you can conveniently plug-in and charge at whatever destination you're going to.

MYOB · 31-12-2011, 17:08

First time I've ever seen a car using those.

Are you paying for the charges yet?

**biko** · 31-12-2011, 17:10

Suppose it's good for business as e-cars? owners will probably go there for their shopping.

**LIGHTNING** · 31-12-2011, 17:17

Cool one charging point!

MYOB · 31-12-2011, 17:18

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Originally Posted by LIGHTNING

Cool one charging point!

There's actually two there I think.

Compared to the 16 at the petrol station 100 metres away, which fill the cars quicker and for an actually practical range...

Hammertime · 31-12-2011, 17:20

Be quite a long time before it becomes even slightly common in forecourts

€10,000 to put the charge point in, €1,400 a year maintenance contract and the loss of valuable forecourt space to a area that will be used VERY rarely.

Its not even a consideration for a normal station, economic madness to put one in.

In ten years or whatever years it take to have 5% of the cars electric then maybe.

**LIGHTNING** · 31-12-2011, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYOB

There's actually two there I think.

Compared to the 16 at the petrol station 100 metres away, which fill the cars quicker and for an actually practical range...

Cool two charging points!

MugMugs · 31-12-2011, 17:32

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Originally Posted by LIGHTNING

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYOB

There's actually two there I think.

Compared to the 16 at the petrol station 100 metres away, which fill the cars quicker and for an actually practical range...

Cool two charging points!

Supply and demand I suppose. Sadly we will be reliant on these soon!

Sesshoumaru · 31-12-2011, 17:40

The current Nissan Leaf can't use it, The Leaf's AC port only supports 220volt, 16 amp on a single phase. But the Renault Fluence ZE supports 32 amps on 3 phases, which all on street charging posts the ESB install support. So a Fluence ZE owner could go from 0% to 100% in 1 hour on the same charging post. More useful for Renault EV owners, but I won't say no to a few electrons wherever I can get them.

Right now they're free and the ports open when you pass your RFID card over them. I'm told eventually the electricity you use from on street chargers will end up on your electricity bill. Free until the middle of next year the ESB keep telling us

Atlantic Dawn · 31-12-2011, 17:49

Interesting, hopefully they restrict those spaces to only electric cars and only those being charged.

MYOB · 31-12-2011, 17:59

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Dawn

Interesting, hopefully they restrict those spaces to only electric cars and only those being charged.

They're at almost the furthest extent of the site, over beside the glass/alu/clothes recycling area (which has its own pull in bay) and McDonalds (which has its own car park). And due to there being about 1400 spaces and all free, its highly unlikely a non electric car would ever have need to park there.

The spaces were empty any time I was down in the days before Christmas, for instance - despite there being queues to try and park in the covered area!

Hammertime · 31-12-2011, 18:01

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Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru

The current Nissan Leaf can't use it, The Leaf's AC port only supports 220volt, 16 amp on a single phase. But the Renault Fluence ZE supports 32 amps on 3 phases, which all on street charging posts the ESB install support. So a Fluence ZE owner could go from 0% to 100% in 1 hour on the same charging post. More useful for Renault EV owners, but I won't say no to a few electrons wherever I can get them.

Right now they're free and the ports open when you pass your RFID card over them. I'm told eventually the electricity you use from on street chargers will end up on your electricity bill. Free until the middle of next year the ESB keep telling us

Am I getting this correct;

there isnt a standard universal recharging fitting for Electric Cars?

Thats a joke and a huge issue if true

*Mr Benevolent* · 31-12-2011, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Hammertime

Am I getting this correct;

there isnt a standard universal recharging fitting for Electric Cars?

Thats a joke and a huge issue if true

I wondered about that. Bizzare, especially since Nissan are longtime partners with Renault.

MYOB · 31-12-2011, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Confab

I wondered about that. Bizzare, especially since Nissan are longtime partners with Renault.

For "longtime partners", substitute "heavily owned and controlled by"

Lex Luthor · 31-12-2011, 18:39

Maybe the Leaf can have a special cable that only uses one of the phases from the 3 phase charging points?

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MYOB Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Maynooth Posts: 17,044 Adverts \| Friends	First time I've ever seen a car using those. Are you paying for the charges yet?

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biko Percolator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Galway City Posts: 36,790 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Blogs / Wikis / Social Networks, Galway City, Nordic, West, Motoring	Suppose it's good for business as e-cars? owners will probably go there for their shopping.

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LIGHTNING Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 7,240 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Motorsport	Cool one charging point!

31-12-2011, 17:20	#6
Hammertime Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,333 Adverts \| Friends	Be quite a long time before it becomes even slightly common in forecourts €10,000 to put the charge point in, €1,400 a year maintenance contract and the loss of valuable forecourt space to a area that will be used VERY rarely. Its not even a consideration for a normal station, economic madness to put one in. In ten years or whatever years it take to have 5% of the cars electric then maybe.

31-12-2011, 17:40	#9
Sesshoumaru Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,701 Adverts \| Friends	The current Nissan Leaf can't use it, The Leaf's AC port only supports 220volt, 16 amp on a single phase. But the Renault Fluence ZE supports 32 amps on 3 phases, which all on street charging posts the ESB install support. So a Fluence ZE owner could go from 0% to 100% in 1 hour on the same charging post. More useful for Renault EV owners, but I won't say no to a few electrons wherever I can get them. Right now they're free and the ports open when you pass your RFID card over them. I'm told eventually the electricity you use from on street chargers will end up on your electricity bill. Free until the middle of next year the ESB keep telling us

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Atlantic Dawn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Offshore SO 914 Posts: 4,849 Adverts \| Friends	Interesting, hopefully they restrict those spaces to only electric cars and only those being charged.

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Lex Luthor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 6,433 Adverts \| Friends	Maybe the Leaf can have a special cable that only uses one of the phases from the 3 phase charging points?