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Are you going to pay the household charge? [Part 1]
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Gimme a while, I'm eating my dinner - then will have to wade thru all the stuff I've posted so far, to find the previous relevant post!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=77660107#post77660107
This the link?0 -
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Several reasons I wont be paying
1 - I didnt or anybody I know didnt create the catatrosphic fiscal mess we are in.
2 - The people in power didnt do their jobs.
3 - The money will be pi**ed up against the wall.
4 - Taxes and cost of living is already at breaking point, the only fcuking thing that has dropped in price is property !
5 - I voted FG in the last election for REAL change, they are now riding joe public bareback, FF had the decency to skin up :eek:
6 - I dont have many options to have my meagre voice heard so if its one way of making my feelings known I'm fcking grabbing it !
7 - Big Phil Hogan slaughtered council budgets and expected joe public to big up the tab. Even if EVERYBODY paid the councils will still be short changed.
8 - The collection of the charge is entirely uneconomic, its like asking someone to pay a 1 euro bus fare when it actuallys costs 2 euro.
9 - Even with 90% compliance the sheer volume of people is unsustainable to chase.
10 - They dont have a CLUE who owns what in this country so as they have already admitted they need YOU to own up and help them with their little project.
11 - I have no doubts they will fcuk people even harder next year and triple the charge...MINIMUM. Then the doo doo will hit the fan and if you were naive / silly / frightened enough to pay now they will be on your ass BIG TIME, as you are the low hanging fruit.
12 - The entire strategy and execution has been VERY badly thought out.
13 - No consideration given tho those who cant pay.
14 - State media outlets giving this unneccessary relentless coverage is bollox and completely bias IMHO.
15 - Claiming "sure all the other EU countries do it" is apples and oranges, the majority of other countries dont have the level of waste / inefficiency or downright shambolic public services that we have, ie you can see where your cash is going.
16 - Big Phils bully boy tactics over the last week have been nothing short of disgraceful...theres ways to do things and ways not to...Phil has gone for the latter and his attitude is bertieesque.
And breathe
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Several reasons I wont be paying
1 - I didnt or anybody I know didnt create the catatrosphic fiscal mess we are in.
2 - The people in power didnt do their jobs.
3 - The money will be pi**ed up against the wall.
4 - Taxes and cost of living is already at breaking point, the only fcuking thing that has dropped in price is property !
5 - I voted FG in the last election for REAL change, they are now riding joe public bareback, FF had the decency to skin up :eek:
6 - I dont have many options to have my meagre voice heard so if its one way of making my feelings known I'm fcking grabbing it !
7 - Big Phil Hogan slaughtered council budgets and expected joe public to big up the tab. Even if EVERYBODY paid the councils will still be short changed.
8 - The collection of the charge is entirely uneconomic, its like asking someone to pay a 1 euro bus fare when it actuallys costs 2 euro.
9 - Even with 90% compliance the sheer volume of people is unsustainable to chase.
10 - They dont have a CLUE who owns what in this country so as they have already admitted they need YOU to own up and help them with their little project.
11 - I have no doubts they will fcuk people even harder next year and triple the charge...MINIMUM. Then the doo doo will hit the fan and if you were naive / silly / frightened enough to pay now they will be on your ass BIG TIME, as you are the low hanging fruit.
12 - The entire strategy and execution has been VERY badly thought out.
13 - No consideration given tho those who cant pay.
14 - State media outlets giving this unneccessary relentless coverage is bollox and completely bias IMHO.
15 - Claiming "sure all the other EU countries do it" is apples and oranges, the majority of other countries dont have the level of waste / inefficiency or downright shambolic public services that we have, ie you can see where your cash is going.
16 - Big Phils bully boy tactics over the last week have been nothing short of disgraceful...theres ways to do things and ways not to...Phil has gone for the latter and his attitude is bertieesque.
And breathe
this summed it up perfectly for me
no 11
it will be a thousand in no time at all0 -
the amount issue is laughable.
to have enda and co say "look how much more it is up north/europe" with a straight face is to show utter contempt for the intelligence of the average irish person.
do they not SEE that we can connect what the charge is now and what itll be in a few years time ?
we know full bloody well itll be the same as there as soon as the gov can manage it. 0 -
5 - I voted FG in the last election for REAL change, they are now riding joe public bareback, FF had the decency to skin up :eek:
Unfortuantely for all of us the blue-shirts were so desperate to get into power that they lied outright to the Irish people.
Here's a clip of one of the liars in action last year for anyone who hasn't already seen it:
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Several reasons I wont be paying
1 - I didnt or anybody I know didnt create the catatrosphic fiscal mess we are in.
2 - The people in power didnt do their jobs.
3 - The money will be pi**ed up against the wall.
4 - Taxes and cost of living is already at breaking point, the only fcuking thing that has dropped in price is property !
5 - I voted FG in the last election for REAL change, they are now riding joe public bareback, FF had the decency to skin up :eek:
6 - I dont have many options to have my meagre voice heard so if its one way of making my feelings known I'm fcking grabbing it !
7 - Big Phil Hogan slaughtered council budgets and expected joe public to big up the tab. Even if EVERYBODY paid the councils will still be short changed.
8 - The collection of the charge is entirely uneconomic, its like asking someone to pay a 1 euro bus fare when it actuallys costs 2 euro.
9 - Even with 90% compliance the sheer volume of people is unsustainable to chase.
10 - They dont have a CLUE who owns what in this country so as they have already admitted they need YOU to own up and help them with their little project.
11 - I have no doubts they will fcuk people even harder next year and triple the charge...MINIMUM. Then the doo doo will hit the fan and if you were naive / silly / frightened enough to pay now they will be on your ass BIG TIME, as you are the low hanging fruit.
12 - The entire strategy and execution has been VERY badly thought out.
13 - No consideration given tho those who cant pay.
14 - State media outlets giving this unneccessary relentless coverage is bollox and completely bias IMHO.
15 - Claiming "sure all the other EU countries do it" is apples and oranges, the majority of other countries dont have the level of waste / inefficiency or downright shambolic public services that we have, ie you can see where your cash is going.
16 - Big Phils bully boy tactics over the last week have been nothing short of disgraceful...theres ways to do things and ways not to...Phil has gone for the latter and his attitude is bertieesque.
And breathe
Just to add that this tax is discrimination in it's purest form.
It's supposed to be for local services used by everyone, yet only people who own a property have to pay.
Renters get off scott free!
That, right there is pure, unadulterated discrimination.0 -
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Take the cotton wool out of your ears.constitutionus wrote: »RTE saying that leo varakar expects a 90% take up by sat !
spoofing about the figures again. ive YET to hear RTE say the people exempted have to sign up too.
so wheres that 200k in their figures ?
He said he didn't think 90% would pay by the deadline.0 -
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tayto lover wrote: »All the rich snobs eat their dinner at night. I get mine at 1.00pm.
You must have kids too.
We finally get to eat ours in peace when ours are in bed.
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tayto lover wrote: »I think its the first time I can remember people standing together to fight injustice in Irish politics. The people clearly are saying enough is enough. Politics is crooked for all to see and we have enough. There isn't one of them capable of telling the truth. One crowd is as bad as the other. The Mahon Tribunal showed that very clearly. The fact that not one Banker, Speculator, Regulator or Politician appeared in court regarding Anglo etc is a disgrace and is a huge factor in people not paying this tax. They know where it will be going.
The population of Ireland has finally grown up and it's great to see.
I thought that the really great thing about this protest was that you didn't have to protest at all - you just didn't register and didn't pay.
Now its 'people standing together to fight injustice in Irish politics'.
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I thought that the really great thing about this protest was that you didn't have to protest at all - you just didn't register and didn't pay.
Now its 'people standing together to fight injustice in Irish politics'.
Don't always take the literal meaning out of everything.
Seriously though people are protesting like never before. There is a lot of anger out there and its across the board for a change. This is effecting all sectors of the community.0 -
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Take the cotton wool out of your ears.
He said he didn't think 90% would pay by the deadline.
i didnt even HEAR what he said.
i only heard what the woman presenting 9 news said.
if im wrong im wrong.
least i can admit that possibility andnot snark on like you for 20 pages !
talk about preciousness.
that 100 euro must really be burning you as a loss.
in other news this issue has dominated the FG meeting. gues the preasure is coming on from the grannies !0 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LTCT7QIeP8
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