[LeeHoffmann]

Your seen as a woman. If you're seen as a tomboy, or "one of the lads", you'll get treated "normally". You may need to drink more?

Assumption overload!

I am seen as a woman. Therefore, a lot of men expect me to be gentler, more delicate, less vulgar. Hence, the 'preferential' treatment at first.

[Dravokivich]

He didn't say you weren't

He was comparing the difference between a "Lady" and a "Laddette."

[LeeHoffmann]

He didn't say I wasn't what?

Maybe I read that wrong, but I saw that as assuming that I'm not seen as a tomboy/one of the lads and that I don't drink much.

There are other roles between lady and laddette I hope

[gmac102]

Originally Posted by That_Guy

Come to a boards beers. That'll get ya started.

on my own, yikes!!!

[the_syco]

Originally Posted by LeeHoffmann

be aware that you're going to get treated differently by most of them at the start

Originally Posted by FetchTheGin

I have never seen this. What century are you living in?

Originally Posted by LeeHoffmann

unfortunately lots of guys I know are like this. Drives me mad!

Originally Posted by LeeHoffmann

I saw that as assuming that I'm not seen as a tomboy/one of the lads and that I don't drink much.

Originally Posted by LeeHoffmann

I am seen as a woman. Therefore, a lot of men expect me to be gentler, more delicate, less vulgar.

Incorrect. You're seen as a lady, and thus treated like a delicate flower. It's usually how you carry yourself that dictates this. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing; this is how most men have been programmed to treat a lady.

Georgina/George from the Famous Five would be classed as a tomboy and would be treated as a ladette from the get go.

I see nothing wrong with lads seeing a woman as a lady, as they'll help her out. A "ladette" won't receive (nor often take) as much help.

[LeeHoffmann]

With respect, Mr Syco, it's a little absurd for you to assume I carry myself like a lady seeing as you've never met me. You are talking through your hat. You are suggesting that I act like a delicate little flower and therefore I deserve that treatment. I only wish you knew how wrong you were.

Were the famous five not children? And isn't 'ladette' a fairly derogatory term? Maybe you attach a different meaning to it. In my part of the country, it's the female equivalent of 'scumbag' - i.e. a woman with no class

Your dichotomy of 'delicate little lady flower' and 'ladette' is a false one. Do you not see that the vast majority of women don't fit into either of these categories?

Anyway, I think we are derailing the thread.

[aujopimur]

If you buy a nice classic car I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

[gmac102]

Originally Posted by aujopimur

If you buy a nice classic car I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

Then maybe we can race them

[astonaidan]

If Your a lad, Join a club soccer, gaa, darts, poker could be anything really

If Your a girl well coming from where I live the only way girls seem to become friends with lads is on a night out or through mutal friends which isnt really helpful

[taxAHcruel]

Originally Posted by gmac102

How do you make more Male friends? Not for romance purposes just because I get along better with men! I find them easier to be around mostly and much more fun.

I give much the same advice for this question as I do for people looking for a partner on the Relationship Advice forum here. The best way to meet someone is to stop trying.

Instead invest yourself in the things you enjoy, most especially the social aspects of those things. There are few hobbies that do not have some social aspect. If music is your hobby find jamming sessions, if learning a language is your hobby find conversation groups. Few hobbies can not be explored socially.

Things like friends, partners, drinking buddies and so on then sort of work themselves out without you even trying. You will be just doing your thing and you will hear, or maybe you will say yourself "who is up for drinks when we are done here?" and it will go from there.

[G-Money]

Originally Posted by Alopex

If you're female don't flirt with them, and if not interested in a relationship make that clear from the start. IF you do flirt or don't make it clear it can end in utter disaster.

+ about a billion

There's nothing more annoying that a girl who's all flirty then you find out she's not interested for whatever reason. To be honest I'm sceptical when people say they are flirts and don't realise it etc. If you don't want people to get the wrong idea, don't flirt with them. It's pretty easy not to flirt with someone. It's not like it's something impossible like sneezing with your eyes open.

[gmac102]

Originally Posted by G-Money

+ about a billion

There's nothing more annoying that a girl who's all flirty then you find out she's not interested for whatever reason. To be honest I'm sceptical when people say they are flirts and don't realise it etc. If you don't want people to get the wrong idea, don't flirt with them. It's pretty easy not to flirt with someone. It's not like it's something impossible like sneezing with your eyes open.

Im taken as I am or not at all, as I said previous Im unaware Im doing it, I dont limit it to men either.

And in your experience its easy not to flirt with someone because Im sure your aware your doing it.

[G-Money]

Originally Posted by gmac102

Im taken as I am or not at all, as I said previous Im unaware Im doing it, I dont limit it to men either.

And in your experience its easy not to flirt with someone because Im sure your aware your doing it.

Well fair enough, but you must have some awareness of it in order to say you are doing it and not knowing.

Anyway, that's not the point of the thread. I guess just try out some clubs, and stuff that men are interested in. I think there's been some good advice in previous replies.

[gmac102]

Originally Posted by G-Money

Well fair enough, but you must have some awareness of it in order to say you are doing it and not knowing.

People say it to me


Anyway, that's not the point of the thread. I guess just try out some clubs, and stuff that men are interested in. I think there's been some good advice in previous replies.

And your right it isnt the point of the thread, thanks for your input. There is some great advice

[Wompa1]

You have to change your sense of humor around ladies otherwise you could be done for some sort of harassment.