Wuala - a DropBox replacement - 12GB free - refferal thread

fl4pj4ck · 09-07-2011 2:32pm #1

Wuala is secure online storage, a haven in the cloud to store your files. You can safely access and share your files with friends, family, and co-workers.

good DropBox replacement with clients for Windows/Mac/Linux/Mobile

Standard account is 1GB, this can be upped by using a refferal link to 2GB, here is mine:
Get a 2GB free Wuala account

And when you have installed the software, go to Tools>Options>Storage, and enter the following codes, each of them gives you an additional 1GB:
I-KNOW-DOMINIK
I-KNOW-CAROLA
I-KNOW-FABIUS
I-KNOW-LUZIUS
I-KNOW-THOMAS
I-KNOW-JONAS
I-KNOW-MARCEL
I-KNOW-MARIUS
I-KNOW-DARIO
CONNECT-WITH-SUPPORT
SKYFISH-IS-COOL

The total available storage is 13GB with all the coupons used.

whirlpool · 09-07-2011 3:16pm

Is there any advantage to Wuala over Dropbox, besides the extra free space?

fl4pj4ck · 09-07-2011 3:22pm

a huge one. DropBox files are visible to DropBox team and subject to being given free to US authorities upon request. When using Wuala all the files are encrypted using key stored on your computer and there's no way in hell anyone else would be able to acces it.

not to mention the fact that Dropbox only supports Windows, when Wuala have clients for PC/Mac/Linux/Mobile

parsi · 09-07-2011 3:41pm

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

not to mention the fact that Dropbox only supports Windows, when Wuala have clients for PC/Mac/Linux/Mobile

Dropbox supports Mac, Android, Windows, IOS and Blackberry (may be more but they're the devices I use).

fl4pj4ck · 09-07-2011 3:43pm

oops, might have been a while since I checked that, thanks for the info. nevertheless, with all that mess with licensing and their ability to look at my files I still prefer Wuala and SpiderOak

also recently Dropbox had a security issue, all the files were visible for everyone else (no kidding)
http://www.wuala.com/blog/2011/06/cloud-security.html

ozt9vdujny3srf · 09-07-2011 5:14pm

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

oops, might have been a while since I checked that, thanks for the info. nevertheless, with all that mess with licensing and their ability to look at my files I still prefer Wuala and SpiderOak

also recently Dropbox had a security issue, all the files were visible for everyone else (no kidding)
http://www.wuala.com/blog/2011/06/cloud-security.html

Do you think Wuala don't ever have any security issues? Dropbox has exploded over a very short space of time, and in terms of these kind of cloud storage offerings we are in very early days development wise. Also, any problems they have will more than likely go very public.

I'd have a lot more faith in Dropboxs security in the long run because they are big enough to have people dedicated to it now. They are making a big effort to making their T and Cs very transparent.

looder · 09-07-2011 5:32pm

Here's is my refferal link. Thanks OP I was looking for something like this.

http://www.wuala.com/referral/C5GNPGJCGMANCHHH6KC3

gerryk · 09-07-2011 5:59pm

Thanks looder... my referral link: http://www.wuala.com/referral/4A73FPNPJC4G6CGBMG5K

Fnz · 09-07-2011 6:01pm

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

here is mine:
Get a 2GB free Wuala account

Cheers! Used your link.

Here's mine: http://www.wuala.com/referral/64MM6AJ4G3456AHKMGC4

fl4pj4ck · 09-07-2011 6:13pm

Omari Hot Shoestring wrote: »

Do you think Wuala don't ever have any security issues? Dropbox has exploded over a very short space of time, and in terms of these kind of cloud storage offerings we are in very early days development wise. Also, any problems they have will more than likely go very public.

you don't understand the situation at all. dropbox stores encryption keys on Dropbox servers. if those keys are obtained by 3rd party, all your files are in danger. wuala and spideroak uses different approach and allow only you to be in possession of the encryption keys. it's virtually impossible to access your files by someone else

one more important thing: Wuala is an EU company and it's bound by EU Data Protection Act, whereas Dropbox is an US company subject to their stupid anti terrorist law.

I'd have a lot more faith in Dropboxs security in the long run because they are big enough to have people dedicated to it now. They are making a big effort to making their T and Cs very transparent.

they allowed EVERYONE to be able to access EVERYONE ELSES FILES. I don't see any logic in you talking about "faith in their security".

meoklmrk91 · 09-07-2011 6:31pm

Fnz wrote: »

Cheers! Used your link.

Here's mine: http://www.wuala.com/referral/64MM6AJ4G3456AHKMGC4

Thanks used yours,
Here's mine:

http://www.wuala.com/referral/6H6GP73M3KACBPKGNCHA

Sputnik · 09-07-2011 6:50pm

Setup an account with yours meoklmrk91.

Mine is http://www.wuala.com/referral/6MMJ55ACBM4F7HCNHJHJ

dazzday · 09-07-2011 6:54pm

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Thanks used yours,
Here's mine:

http://www.wuala.com/referral/6H6GP73M3KACBPKGNCHA

used yours, thanks.

here is mine for anyone interested:

http://www.wuala.com/referral/BF3HH7FP4A5F6GPAM63A

davetherave · 09-07-2011 7:37pm

dazzday wrote: »

used yours, thanks.

here is mine for anyone interested:

http://www.wuala.com/referral/BF3HH7FP4A5F6GPAM63A

Thanks op.

Just used yours there dazzy.

Here's mine.
http://www.wuala.com/referral/CK66AAPC6HBKFAHGH77G

unklerosco · 09-07-2011 7:56pm

Regarding security.. Anything u want to keep secure shouldn't be stored in the cloud. Simple as that

Moon54 · 09-07-2011 8:04pm

Thanks dave, here's my referal code;

http://www.wuala.com/referral/MA4HFKC6PNANNH45AC6P

fl4pj4ck · 09-07-2011 8:16pm

unklerosco wrote: »

Regarding security.. Anything u want to keep secure shouldn't be stored in the cloud. Simple as that

I don't like the idea of my photos being viewed by everyone else. as Dropbox failed on that level, I just needed an alternative. I'm not after a military grade solution, just one that will allow me a peace of mind. wuala works for me and - most important - it's free

Orion · 09-07-2011 8:53pm

Thanks OP.

Here's my referral link:
http://www.wuala.com/referral/F3K4ANHBFJCN74656G64

Sneachta · 09-07-2011 9:17pm

Pick me pick me.

http://www.wuala.com/referral/6MP7FP3FNC5H46KMCG7N

ozt9vdujny3srf · 09-07-2011 9:23pm

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

you don't understand the situation at all. dropbox stores encryption keys on Dropbox servers. if those keys are obtained by 3rd party, all your files are in danger. wuala and spideroak uses different approach and allow only you to be in possession of the encryption keys. it's virtually impossible to access your files by someone else

one more important thing: Wuala is an EU company and it's bound by EU Data Protection Act, whereas Dropbox is an US company subject to their stupid anti terrorist law.

they allowed EVERYONE to be able to access EVERYONE ELSES FILES. I don't see any logic in you talking about "faith in their security".

I'm not gonna get into a flame war over this, because I don't know much about Wuala's service. I'm curious though, if you lose your keyfile, do you lose all of your data? or does Wuala allow you to get your keyfile again?

In terms of the US / anyone elses anti terrorism laws, Wuala use Amazon s3, so who knows where your data is. It could be in any of amazons availability zones.

If I was gonna switch to any provider, I'd probably go with Amazons. I'm happy with Dropbox though - the chances are any bad stuff that happens with them will be out in the public domain pretty quick.

Finally, a very quick google gets me this:
http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-10-21-wuala-willful-ignorance.html
http://bugs.wuala.com/view.php?id=320

Nobody is perfect. The Dropbox issue was a clanger for sure, but cloud security has a long way to go in general.

Bacchus · 09-07-2011 10:57pm

Omari Hot Shoestring wrote: »

I'm not gonna get into a flame war over this, because I don't know much about Wuala's service. I'm curious though, if you lose your keyfile, do you lose all of your data? or does Wuala allow you to get your keyfile again?

Yes. You will lose your data as only you have the password.

Omari Hot Shoestring wrote: »

Finally, a very quick google gets me this:
http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-10-21-wuala-willful-ignorance.html

Hmm, that person seems irked that 128-bit AES is used, not 192 or 256-bit. I can assure you, the difference is insignificant in terms of securing your data. AES-128 is perfectly fine for securing your data for a long long long long time.

His other questions are valid though (except the side channel attack one, that's OTT). I wouldn't really worry about the answers to them unless you had some seriously sensitive data you need protected. At the same time though, if Wuala are claiming to be the secure alternative to Dropbox, they need to answer those questions.

Omari Hot Shoestring wrote: »

http://bugs.wuala.com/view.php?id=320

That issue appears to be resolved.

AntiRip · 09-07-2011 11:08pm

Referral link, thanks

http://www.wuala.com/referral/6GM74H7FBAHNMCN76CKJ

unklerosco · 09-07-2011 11:20pm

fl4pj4ck wrote: »

I don't like the idea of my photos being viewed by everyone else. as Dropbox failed on that level, I just needed an alternative. I'm not after a military grade solution, just one that will allow me a peace of mind. wuala works for me and - most important - it's free

Out of interest, did u ever use dropbox? If so is there anything it does that wuala doesn't do? 12gb of storage would be handy, I've maxed out my 5gb on dropbox...

viking · 09-07-2011 11:40pm

@AntiRip used your referral. Here's mine:

http://www.wuala.com/referral/4MG3FHMBJFB6H4F46AH3

Many thanks.

fl4pj4ck · 10-07-2011 12:51am

unklerosco wrote: »

Out of interest, did u ever use dropbox? If so is there anything it does that wuala doesn't do? 12gb of storage would be handy, I've maxed out my 5gb on dropbox...

of course I did. most common stuff:
- syncing "My Documents"
- storing my filezilla library
- storing files for Wamp/Xampp
- uploading files from a webform to my Drobox account
- make my most popular photos available online

So far Wuala/Spideroak (using both of them ATM) seem to have more functionality than Dropbox.

One thing I find excellent is the ability to create groups of friends and exchange files between users + simple messaging system.

drive3331 · 10-07-2011 2:57am

@viking - used your referal code,

New referal code below,

http://www.wuala.com/referral/45GCACF66PNP6FFKNFHP

AlmightyCushion · 10-07-2011 3:09am

If you click on details beside the amount of storage you have, they show the codes as having an expiry date. Does that mean that once they expire you lose that storage?

GrumPy · 10-07-2011 11:16am

Gonna give this a try. Don't like how the Dropbox terms of service changed. They claim rights to any files stored on their server. All my college work was up there. :rolleyes: Cancelled when I received that update email.

AntiRip · 10-07-2011 11:44am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

If you click on details beside the amount of storage you have, they show the codes as having an expiry date. Does that mean that once they expire you lose that storage?

They seem to expire in 3 months alright except CONNECT-WITH-SUPPORT which is 12 months.

So it will be back down to 2-3GB in October

I knew 13GB was too good to be true

Yggr of Asgard · 10-07-2011 11:51am

@drive3331 - used your referal code,

New referal code below,

http://www.wuala.com/referral/A7BAKPBNF7P4A5KPNB5J

Also as this is a service of Lacie, if you own a Lacie harddrive you can get extra storage by entering the serial number in tools/storage. Also remember if you have an Iomega hard drive, most likely there is a Lacie Drive in it, so try to enter the SN to get more storage.

dubmick · 10-07-2011 12:31pm

@dublin-texas I used your code.

Here is my referral link:

http://www.wuala.com/referral/B7A6P773BNBAHHN37FK3

Wuala - a DropBox replacement - 12GB free - refferal thread

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