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Awards Night for CI

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    #32
    Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Junior


    Why don't CI divide it into two, i.e nominations, a commiteeeeeeeeeeee then makes selections for the category, and opens the selection to public voting.


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    #33
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    morana wrote: »
    BTW our rethink of the system has nothing to do with Don Bailey winning!

    Oh I know, sorry that came out wrong. What I was trying to say is that the justification as to who merits nomination doesn't rest with the club. If a committee from Cycling Ireland feel that person x or y is more deserving of a place, then that is theirs to decide.

    My point was that you cannot level blame at a club because they vote for their own members. Would I vote for Donal Bailey because he is in Orwell? Yes, that's just the nature of a club I guess and there is nothing wrong with it. To suggest it is somehow subversive or "rigging" the vote is not fair.


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    #34
    mtbireland
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭mtbireland


    No easy solution to this... it is obvious though from the past two years that some of the awards are a total farce. I think the best option is to have the commissions and the boards do it as was the case in previous years... the biggest problem with online voting is that there has been in the past and very publicly done campaigns by clubs to win awards. I don't think this was as bad this year as it was last year though.


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    #35
    Slideshowbob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    Scribe Thomas Campbell has also queried the validity of the poll!! :

    http://www.irishcycling.com/publish/news/art_5322.shtml


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    #36
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,013 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Slideshowbob wrote: »
    Scribe Thomas Campbell has also queried the validity of the poll!! :

    http://www.irishcycling.com/publish/news/art_5322.shtml

    There is nothing invalid about the poll - it reflects the votes of the people who voted. Don't ask a question if you don't want to know the answer.

    I would agree that the process is subject to organised voting - this is common knowledge as others have posted.

    There are lots of obvious solutions:

    - Don't allow people to vote for those in their own clubs

    - Restrict votes to multiple-choice based on a set list of candidates put together by the committee (or whatever)

    - Introduce a couple of "Fred's choice" categories and contain the democracy in those.

    - Go for a full-on X-Factor elimination process, televised on Youtube and running for several hours a day over the course of eleventy feckin weeks until everyone is completely sick of the noise of the stupid audience screaming, mock politics between judges and absurd over-promotion of talentless candidates to the point where domestic tensions are pushing them to the brink of divorce.


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    #37
    manwithaplan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭manwithaplan


    Lumen wrote: »
    Go for a full-on X-Factor elimination process, televised on Youtube and running for several hours a day over the course of eleventy feckin weeks until everyone is completely sick of the noise of the stupid audience screaming, mock politics between judges and absurd over-promotion of talentless candidates to the point where domestic tensions are pushing them to the brink of divorce.

    So where do you stand on Wagner?


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    #38
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I thought that was pretty cowardly from Tommy. If he has a problem with someone winning an award he should come right out and say it rather than slyly alluding to it


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    #39
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    el tonto wrote: »
    I thought that was pretty cowardly from Tommy. If he has a problem with someone winning an award he should come right out and say it rather than slyly alluding to it

    There have been plenty of comments here in the past about Tommys "individual" style of reporting.
    Poor form though...


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