Shot in eye

Is your son's eyesight affected after the incident?

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your son makes a full and quick recovery.

elDiablo79 wrote: »

wat does barely legal mean? its under 1joule or its not.

Its either legal or not as this guy said, bring it back to the retailer and if they give you any guff, remind them they sold a child a firearm.

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Its either legal or not as this guy said, bring it back to the retailer and if they give you any guff, remind them they sold a child a firearm.

Nobody said anyone sold a child a firearm. An adult may have purchased it.

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Doesn't matter a bit, you'll find some chancers are less than helpful when guns are over, its important to remind them its illegal to sell them over the limit.

He could have sold it to a space alien for all it matters, the main point is having the thing downgraded if necessary.

Sorry I agree. I took it up wrong as if you were concentrating on the part about selling to an under 18 year old.

Apologies Stercus.

Well seeing has he said "my other son has just bought", it would probably be safe to assume his son bought it....Either way its still illegal to sell an airsoft gun thats firing over the limit to an adult.
Well he say its barely legal, legal being the keyword there.

Anyway back on topic, something similar happened to me (although thankfully no injury) with a pair of Guarder C4's (and yes I had the foam insert in it). Kind of worrying to be honest, and I haven't been able to trust those googles since.

I do hope your son recovers soon and that theres no lasting damage.

This raises a good point actually, it'd be nice to see retailers test-fitting goggles on purchasers. Heads come in different shapes and sizes and the right goggles for one person might leave a gap at the sides or top or bottom where a BB could get through. Ski retailers will make sure boots they're selling fit properly, and goggles are about the most important piece of airsoft equipment there is. Sorry to be putting this on the guys in the shops, but it's not a huge task, should generally make the purchaser feel like they're being properly taken care of by experts, and will notch up the self-policing responsibility of the Irish airsoft community by another bit.

Those shooting glasses that don't seal around the edges are downright foolish and I personally don't think they should be sold by responsible airsoft vendors at all, certainly not to people intending to actually play the game.

one thing id love to see brought in on all sites is Under 18s wear mandatory full face masks ,
this of modeling shooting glasses is setting a bad example to younger players ,
if there not enclosed then they shouldnt be allowed on the field of play ,

Gatling wrote: »

one thing id love to see brought in on all sites is Under 18s wear mandatory full face masks ,
this of modeling shooting glasses is setting a bad example to younger players ,
if there not enclosed then they shouldnt be allowed on the field of play ,

As a member of the <18 skirmishers, I personally think this isn't the issue. At most of the skirmishes I go to it is always the older more mature skirmishers that are wearing goggles, because they think they know it all and don't need the full face protection.

And, the New players who turn up without a full face mask will swiftly change their mind after the first shot to the cheek. To place a blanket Full face protection must be worn kind of thing on All players woudl be the way to go.

And, I may just be speaking for myself, but it is very hard to be influenced by someone wearing just the glasses when at the end of the day you see them with welts and blood on their faces.

@J.D.R...i completely disagree with you there, i wear only eye protection and most certainly not because i think i know it all, its because its whats comfortable for me

if i get shot in the face, so be it..i dont think people would appreciate a full face mask stipulation

i find the comment about mature players thinking they know it all as a bit ridiculous to be honest

Lemming wrote: »

I wear goggles/glasses by choice. I have worn full face masks, and I've gone through several itterations of face mask/goggles/glasses to know what suits me and I am prepared to consider acceptable. If I then get raked across the cheek then so be it; short of someone being an asshole and/or willfully blaise/careless and opening up point blank into my face, whatever happens is on my own head.

Personally, I think that <17 should perhaps have mandatory face protection. Not sure how a waiver would go because you then have a mixture of mask/no mask which the marshals need to keep track of on top of everything else.

Basically, its on your own head if you agree to fullface mask and decide to sneak on in goggles, and the parents could give the kids a giving out to if they are caught.

Can we stop the "Kids should wear" "Adults are..." "All should..."

It's about personal preferance and site rules. Everyone must wear eye protection. That is the rule. Now, personally what I think would be a good move would be for the IAA, Sites & Retailers, working in conjunction with each other, to test a load of different brands, models and types of eye protection, to come up with a banned list (ones not allowed be sold, given away free, or rented), and also with an official recommended list.

Airsoft sites can then check everyones eye protection, and if it matches ones on the banned list, then it cannot be worn for safety reasons, and a proper rental pair can be provided/rented.

My logic is that if the load was spread, it creates a little less work, not too much financial loss (in terms of getting the products to effectively destroy), but can have very good publicity. Maybe I'm being a little naive here, but I think it could be very beneficial.

Inari wrote: »

Now, personally what I think would be a good move would be for the IAA, Sites & Retailers, working in conjunction with each other, to test a load of different brands, models and types of eye protection, to come up with a banned list (ones not allowed be sold, given away free, or rented), and also with an official recommended list.

The IAA has no official power to create lists of products to be banned. They are not safety accredited, nor set up to provide safety accredited testing with metrics that can withstand scientific scrutiny, and would be stepping into a horrifically legal minefield not just blind, but blind drunk.

BY all means create a recommended list; but that's about as much as you can do. After that it comes down to judgement call by site operator/marshals on the day.

J.D.R wrote: »

I was not trying to say you were a know it all, just trying to point out a double standard. Just because you are young you are deemed unable to make up your own mind. I have no problem with new players being forced to wear full face masks, but as for having a blanket rule of under experienced 18's having to wear it, and then have a a novice 30 year old in just glasses, I just feel that that's unfair.

Well its my understanding that most sites that have a restriction don't have a choice in the matter. In so much as its a restriction that their insurance company as put in place.

I assume the insurance company feels that parents might freak out if their child comes home missing a tooth or what have you.

And you might as well complain that its unfair that under 18's don't get to vote. (Not picking on you here, but thats just the way things are I'm afraid).