Whats your setup?

brian_gall85 · 17-01-2012 1:03pm

Hi all, will hopefully be dipping my toe in the world of foreign satellite in the next month or so and still not 100% sure on what makes and models to get.

I'm pretty set on getting a Blade 7000s but would appreciate any help on the parts I should get for the rest of my system - (dish, motor, lnb mainly).

I'm hoping to install a motorised set up to get the full use of the system and was planning on using the following;

Want a motor with metal parts
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Technomate-TM-2600-Super-DiSEqC-Satellite-Motor-/330672235782?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item4cfd99e506

Triax Td110 dish

LNB - does the model really matter with such a large dish?

Finally, the dish has to be fitted on the north facing side of the building as it's above a shop. I have read that I could fit it on a pole above the gutter line. The pitch of the rough looks pretty average and the there is nothing higher than the shop in front of it facing south.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any help you can give

Brian

dxhound2005 · 17-01-2012 11:17pm

brian_gall85 wrote: »

Hi all, will hopefully be dipping my toe in the world of foreign satellite in the next month or so and still not 100% sure on what makes and models to get.

I'm pretty set on getting a Blade 7000s but would appreciate any help on the parts I should get for the rest of my system - (dish, motor, lnb mainly).

I'm hoping to install a motorised set up to get the full use of the system and was planning on using the following;

Want a motor with metal parts
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Technomate-TM-2600-Super-DiSEqC-Satellite-Motor-/330672235782?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item4cfd99e506

Triax Td110 dish

LNB - does the model really matter with such a large dish?

Finally, the dish has to be fitted on the north facing side of the building as it's above a shop. I have read that I could fit it on a pole above the gutter line. The pitch of the rough looks pretty average and the there is nothing higher than the shop in front of it facing south.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any help you can give

Brian

This Sticky thread is for people to show their existing systems, you might get more replies if you posted a new thread on the main page.

I have that dish and the TM 2100 motor an earlier version of the 2600 and both are very good. Get an Inverto Dark Ultra LNB it will definitely help.

What do you want/expect to receive? There are FTA film channels in English on 26 East (one of the weaker satellites) but there is not too much else FTA in English otherwise. If you want to get football, films etc you will have to pay foreign providers. Do you want to watch feeds? A lot them are in 4:2:2 which the Blade receiver will not be able to decode. The only receiver doing that at the moment is the AzBox (or streaming video from a receiver card in your computer). Lots are also encrypted and not viewable. Real time list of feeds here, Central European time.

http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=livef

Are you going to install the system yourself? It will have to be facing South and over the roofline which could expose it to movement in high winds. Mine is well sheltered on the back wall of my house. I got it installed a few years ago by a professional which was an expensive but in the long run a very sensible option.

You are probably familiar with the different satellites you can expect to receive, if not google Lyngsat, Flysat and Kingofsat they have all the frequencies and footprints.

brian_gall85 · 18-01-2012 12:25am

Thanks for the help will start a new thread as well. I'm planning on seeing what FTA channels I can get and other things that can't really be talked about here I believe.

One final thing I've heard of 442 feeds before but don't fully understand them. What exactly are they and what channels would I not be able to view without a box capable of using them?

Thanks again.

dxhound2005 · 18-01-2012 2:15am

brian_gall85 wrote: »

Thanks for the help will start a new thread as well. I'm planning on seeing what FTA channels I can get and other things that can't really be talked about here I believe.

One final thing I've heard of 442 feeds before but don't fully understand them. What exactly are they and what channels would I not be able to view without a box capable of using them?

Thanks again.

If you look on the Satelliweb site you will see either 4:2:0 or 4:2:2 as the transmission type. You can tune in a 4:2:2 signal but you will only get the audio with most receivers. Feeds are temporary transmissions for satellite news gathering and sports events mostly. A lot of them are encrypted these days and not viewable on any normal receiver. You will notice feeds are busiest in the afternoon/evening but not much late at night.

Greenman · 30-03-2012 9:48pm

:)Placed my CM 1.2m dish today.

This is for Nilesat which is very strong these days.

Regards JD.

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dicey2 · 11-04-2012 11:52am

80cm Triax Mesh Dish
Pointing to Astra 28, Astra 19 and Hotbird 13
Disqeq switches located in the shed behind the dish. Twin feed cable ran to 3 receviers - 1 Technomate 6902 and 2 Opticum X7's

Greenman · 16-04-2012 8:03am

Here is a shot from another angle, the weather was more cheerful too.:)

Off out to place my other CM 1.2, this one will be used as a feed seeker along with the AZbox.

More pics to follow.

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Greenman · 22-04-2012 10:50am

Hello,
Placed the CM 1.2m with actuator last monday. Very happy with result. The install went very smooth. When I had taken it down from its previous location I had it looking at Arabsat, when I placed it in its new home I found Arabsat, tightened up everything and the arc needed no adjustment

:):).

Now all is good in my satellite farm with some tweaking and adding to follow. Enclosed a few pics.

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KasparsS · 18-05-2012 9:40am

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=226797387433213&set=a.226797327433219.47516.224553177657634&type=1&theater

4.8e, 9e, 13e,28.2e.
dreambox
opticum x406p

Ghostleader · 18-07-2012 9:20pm

How the non $ky fan boys roll in my house!!:

Manc-Red · 18-07-2012 9:25pm

Ghostleader wrote: »

How the non $ky fan boys roll in my house!!:

Superb m8!

snaps · 22-07-2012 8:19am

Ghostleader wrote: »

How the non $ky fan boys roll in my house!!:

Looking at your arm there. it looks stable. Can you explain what youve used? My multilnb arm will soon need updating (Ive got 13, 19, 23, 28 east) currently on a Gilbertini 1.1m with a fragile Gilbertini multi lnb arm. It works fine but i want to add more lnbs and its not strong enough to hold any more i feel.

Ghostleader · 22-07-2012 6:20pm

If your talking about mine & your actual LNB rail then yes, mine is very solid, its seen a good few 90 and 100 miles a hour high winds. The dish is a 80cm perforated ISS and the metal rail system is a Orbital two which does a spread 24 degrees, I use it regular for multi LNB installs of 13E & 28E. Im surprised you say the Gilbertini dish matched rail is flimsy, how so? Do you think the rail is thin and will sag or what? With a dish of your size here I would go for 5E,9E,13E,16Ecentre,19E,23E,28E and 39E.

snaps · 22-07-2012 10:19pm

Ghostleader wrote: »

Im surprised you say the Gilbertini dish matched rail is flimsy, how so? Do you think the rail is thin and will sag or what?

Yes its thin and not the most robust of lnb rails ive seen. Its lasted a few good years though, but i fear any more weight on it and it'll be good night nurse.

Ghostleader · 22-07-2012 10:24pm

snaps wrote: »

Yes its thin and not the most robust of lnb rails ive seen. Its lasted a few good years though, but i fear any more weight on it and it'll be good night nurse.

Im pretty sure I have seen the Gilbertini bracket, its LNB holders almost look like washing machine drainage pipe clamps, thin and have a nut and bolt locking mech at the top?

snaps · 23-07-2012 6:23am

Ghostleader wrote: »

snaps wrote: »

Yes its thin and not the most robust of lnb rails ive seen. Its lasted a few good years though, but i fear any more weight on it and it'll be good night nurse.

Im pretty sure I have seen the Gilbertini bracket, its LNB holders almost look like washing machine drainage pipe clamps, thin and have a nut and bolt locking mech at the top?

that's them yes!

Ghostleader · 13-08-2012 6:20pm

Well after the better part of three years the quad that was trained on 28E failed on Saturday so I took down the whole rig and quickly fired up a kit I use for installs but I only had two Black Ultras sitting in the store and a couple of odd single LNB's I had in my odds n sods box, so I made the best of what I had and fired up the kit, two Black Ultras, One on 13E, One offset on 19E and a wee three pound Lidl LNB on 28E. It will do until I get bum in gear and shop up something a bit more hardcore.

RimaNTSS · 18-08-2012 7:04pm

Hi everybody!
I've got some updates on SAT-setup. Firstly, installed 120cm Kathrein polar-mounted prime-focus dish. It is almost 20 years old but still in ship shape, real German quality. Plan to tune it fixed on 90*E Ku band. Secondly there is plastic offset 118cm in diagonal dish. On that by now I put 75*E and 85*E on multifeed. I also have same square-shaped dish in wood shed, that has 160cm diagonal. Unfortunately, it seems that I run out of free space for installing antennas, should think how to make additional fittings.

sob1467 · 01-09-2012 6:57pm

Have been meaning to post in this thread for a long time so here I go.

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This is what I watch almost every Saturday evening at 3pm (Unless United are playing and only watch one screen then:D)

Anyway the big screen is coming from a projector onto a 96" screen. On the left is a 42" TV showing BBC final score via Freeview.

The small screen on the left is a Laptop (not connected to the satellite) and the small screen to the left is connected to a receiver usually an old Dreambox 500 but today it was connected to an old Digitalb receiver.

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This is the projector that I use think its a Optoma 600x.

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The projector is connected to this Opticum receiver. This is conax embedded and it is this receiver that I use to read my Cyfra+ card. Also reads my JSC card but its currently expired.

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The small screen to the left is just a laptop connected to a match that is being screened online whilst the screen to the right is connected to an old paired Digitalb receiver to a fixed dish that was luckily pointed to 10east today where there was a FTA Premiership match on today. Found out on liveonsat forum.

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This is my setup from the outside a fixed old Freesat dish and a motorised dish with a Technomate 2600 I think motor.

I sometimes use the big TV to keep an eye on another match if need be but usually have it on BBC for final score to tell me what to watch. Usually have BBC radio 5 live on in the background its gives you a good idea about what is going on and what game to watch. Also have another old laptop lying around for radio delay as well as a DAB radio.

Many people who see it thinks your crazy or that you've spent a fortune on it but thats not really the case because the set up has been built up over the years.

Most of the ideas on what to get receiver and cardwise came from this forum so lets keep it going.:)

mbutler2007 · 04-09-2012 1:10am

sob1467 wrote: »

Have been meaning to post in this thread for a long time so here I go.

This is what I watch almost every Saturday evening at 3pm (Unless United are playing and only watch one screen then:D)

Anyway the big screen is coming from a projector onto a 96" screen. On the left is a 42" TV showing BBC final score via Freeview.

The small screen on the left is a Laptop (not connected to the satellite) and the small screen to the left is connected to a receiver usually an old Dreambox 500 but today it was connected to an old Digitalb receiver.

This is the projector that I use think its a Optoma 600x.

The projector is connected to this Opticum receiver. This is conax embedded and it is this receiver that I use to read my Cyfra+ card. Also reads my JSC card but its currently expired.

The small screen to the left is just a laptop connected to a match that is being screened online whilst the screen to the right is connected to an old paired Digitalb receiver to a fixed dish that was luckily pointed to 10east today where there was a FTA Premiership match on today. Found out on liveonsat forum.

This is my setup from the outside a fixed old Freesat dish and a motorised dish with a Technomate 2600 I think motor.

I sometimes use the big TV to keep an eye on another match if need be but usually have it on BBC for final score to tell me what to watch. Usually have BBC radio 5 live on in the background its gives you a good idea about what is going on and what game to watch. Also have another old laptop lying around for radio delay as well as a DAB radio.

Many people who see it thinks your crazy or that you've spent a fortune on it but thats not really the case because the set up has been built up over the years.

Most of the ideas on what to get receiver and cardwise came from this forum so lets keep it going.:)

its a bit ex-stream but a good set up

two questions if you do not mind how do you use the radio delay, what kind of set up.
and
what sit do you use to stream the second match ?

thanks

tdv123 · 04-09-2012 4:33am

FTA receiver & 60cm dish pointed at 13E (Switch between 19.2E & 9E now & then). Sky dish poointed at 28E with Sky+ box & HD subscription, FTA receiver & 80cm dish pointing at 42E.

Doodoo · 18-09-2012 4:12pm

I've set up my 80cm dish with 3 lnbs. One quad at 28.2e, one single at 19.2e and one quad at 13e.
I have a humax foxsat pvr with a dual feed from 28.2e for freesat. One of these feeds goes through a diseqc switch(yellow) along with a feed from 19.2e and 13e.
I have an old humax viaccess box that has 28.2e and 13e through a diseqc switch(grey) for the bedroom.
I also have wired a 13e cable to the sitting room with the view to getting a sky Italia box and card for the footie.
That just leaves a spare 28.2e and a spare 13e in the attic.
My next job is to get the raydon media bundle onto my humax pvr to get the foreign stations along side the freesat channels.

RimaNTSS · 19-09-2012 5:31pm

Have finished installation of 1,5m prime-focus dish (one from my post #98 in this tread), got almost every satellite from 90*E till 30*W, all together about 40 Ky band sats. 18' actuator was pretty enough to get this arc, it moves antenna from East to West in 60 seconds. Will leave this antenna for work during winter time.

mbutler2007 · 19-09-2012 10:16pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

Have finished installation of 1,5m prime-focus dish (one from my post #98 in this tread), got almost every satellite from 90*E till 30*W, all together about 40 Ky band sats. 18' actuator was pretty enough to get this arc, it moves antenna from East to West in 60 seconds. Will leave this antenna for work during winter time.

that is good stuff, i would love that dish. at an estimate what is the cost of such a dish and does it have to be on a flat roof were did you mount it?

what is the resiver set up?

grate job

Manc-Red · 19-09-2012 10:25pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

Have finished installation of 1,5m prime-focus dish (one from my post #98 in this tread), got almost every satellite from 90*E till 30*W, all together about 40 Ky band sats. 18' actuator was pretty enough to get this arc, it moves antenna from East to West in 60 seconds. Will leave this antenna for work during winter time.

Fab

RimaNTSS · 20-09-2012 5:15am

mbutler2007 wrote: »

what is the cost of such a dish and does it have to be on a flat roof were did you mount it?

what is the resiver set up?

I do not know about new, got it second hand and payed about 50 bucks. And than, after renovation job (cleaning, painting, exchanging all nuts and bolts, some welding, adjusting of polar mechanism etc.). Any antenna could be mounted on a flat or slope roofs, the most important that mounting pole is dead plumb. My receiver (DM8000) has 1 terrestrial and 3 Sat tuners, one of them is working directly to this antenna, second one will be moving 1,8m polar-mounted antenna, and a third one will be switching all LNBs (perhaps 31 piece) from fixed antennas. In my case everything is mounted very compact on small portico on the South side of the house. I wish I had everything finished someday

iba · 21-09-2012 12:55pm

Doodoo wrote: »

I've set up my 80cm dish with 3 lnbs. One quad at 28.2e, one single at 19.2e and one quad at 13e.
I have a humax foxsat pvr with a dual feed from 28.2e for freesat. One of these feeds goes through a diseqc switch(yellow) along with a feed from 19.2e and 13e.
I have an old humax viaccess box that has 28.2e and 13e through a diseqc switch(grey) for the bedroom.
I also have wired a 13e cable to the sitting room with the view to getting a sky Italia box and card for the footie.
That just leaves a spare 28.2e and a spare 13e in the attic.
My next job is to get the raydon media bundle onto my humax pvr to get the foreign stations along side the freesat channels.

I use the Raydon Media Bundle on my Humax. Its well handy and was easy to install - I recommend it

iba · 21-09-2012 12:57pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

Have finished installation of 1,5m prime-focus dish (one from my post #98 in this tread), got almost every satellite from 90*E till 30*W, all together about 40 Ky band sats. 18' actuator was pretty enough to get this arc, it moves antenna from East to West in 60 seconds. Will leave this antenna for work during winter time.

Wow, what a set-up

I have one of those motors lying around in the shed - bought it over in Egypt - could never figure out how to set it up/use it.

Greenman · 29-09-2012 10:04pm

Looks like Montrose AKA RTE:)

Well done.

banie01 · 03-04-2013 4:11pm

Just to update on some other bits and bobs I've changed around.
Now I'm running 7 LNBs on my dish and after a bit of tweaking today I am just sharing the outcome

Thanks to a post I spotted on another Forum by a fellow Boards.ie member (namely Excollier....Thank you Mate!)
I modified my LNB arm ever so slightly and got some noticeable benefits
Modified may too strong a word...
Basically all I did(folowing Excollier's post) was to raise the LNB arm ever so slightly by using a shim between the base of the dish and where the LNB arm joins the dish face....
I used @1.5-2mm piece of metal, I just lifted the LNB arm, placed the shim and let the arm rest ever so slightly higher.....

This allows the LNB arm to sit ever so slightly higher, a small difference!
But one that allows a noticeable improvement
Now on 4.8e, 9/10e, 13e and 16e I gained @5-7% signal strength on my Vu Duo, over my old values on the channels I use in my custom LNB align Bouquet(Not scientific I know but I dont have a meter)
And on 19.2e and 23.5e I gained @ 3-5% and similar gain on 28.2e.
I'll add a table later with the before and after signal %'

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iba · 03-04-2013 5:07pm

Banie,

Looks good.

Whats your center, 16?

I also tried to add a shim to my set-up the other week but at the end of the arm. Was trying to stick it in under the Black Plastic thing as I noticed that the weight was pulling the arm down. Ill try what you and Excollier have done asap.

Cant really see how your 4.8 is attached though.

Was thinking of getting some metal rope/chord to tie around the end of the arm and attach the rope to the top of the dish to also help with the weight problem.

Would drilling two 5mm holes near the top of a dish cause any ill effects?

Whats a 'custom LNB align Bouquet'?

banie01 · 03-04-2013 5:25pm

iba wrote: »

Banie,
Looks good.
Whats your center, 16?

Yep 16e

iba wrote: »

Cant really see how your 4.8 is attached though.

Cableties of course! 1 of the handiest inventions ever

iba wrote: »

Was thinking of getting some metal rope/chord to tie around the end of the arm and attach the rope to the top of the dish to also help with the weight problem.
Would drilling two 5mm holes near the top of a dish cause any ill effects?

Does your dish not have predrilled holes on the Dish lip at the @10 and 2 o'clock positions?
Drilling the holes if they aren't there won't cause a problem.
Also, Builders twine or paracord would probably be a better bet than wire rope, as it would be transparent to the Sat signal.(Advice I was given many a moon ago)

iba wrote: »

Whats a 'custom LNB align Bouquet'?

Its fairly self explanatory really.
Its a custom bouquet I created for aligning my multi LNB set up

Its just a selection of the weaker TPs and favourite channels from all the Sat's in my setup saved into a bouquet\list of @20 channels that allow quick and easy +\- channel changes to check reception across all the birds I use.
Makes aligning and tweaking a lot easier than going into each individual sat via channel lists or even attach a meter to each LNB.
And as in a multi LNB setup adjust 1 LNB can have a knock on effect on the others, its a quick and easy way to track what effect changes have across the setup via just changing a channel on the E2 Sat meter or dreamdroid sat meter.

iba · 03-04-2013 8:11pm

banie01 wrote: »

Yep 16e

Cableties of course! 1 of the handiest inventions ever

Does your dish not have predrilled holes on the Dish lip at the @10 and 2 o'clock positions?
Drilling the holes if they aren't there won't cause a problem.
Also, Builders twine or paracord would probably be a better bet than wire rope, as it would be transparent to the Sat signal.(Advice I was given many a moon ago)

Its fairly self explanatory really.
Its a custom bouquet I created for aligning my multi LNB set up
Its just a selection of the weaker TPs and favourite channels from all the Sat's in my setup saved into a bouquet\list of @20 channels that allow quick and easy +\- channel changes to check reception across all the birds I use.
Makes aligning and tweaking a lot easier than going into each individual sat via channel lists or even attach a meter to each LNB.
And as in a multi LNB setup adjust 1 LNB can have a knock on effect on the others, its a quick and easy way to track what effect changes have across the setup via just changing a channel on the E2 Sat meter or dreamdroid sat meter.

Thanks for all that banie.

Yes Cable Ties are a wonderful invention - Ive used those Green Gardening Ties that they sell in Lidl from time to time.

Ive no holes at the top - but have them at 16.00 and 20.00 (and no I dont have my dish upside down) - thanks on the advice for the type of rope to get.

I dont have a Sat Meter either - so I just use dishpointer to get 26 and then just trial and error to get the rest by leaving my STB on the strongest transponder from each sat. But I am waiting for this from Hong Kong:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SF95-Satellite-Finder-Signal-Satfinder-Sat-Meter-for-Sat-Directv-Dish-/110837950915?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

As far as I know, bouquets have not been written for the Arivas, so I have never used them - but I think STB (the person) wrote in a post a while back that he was in the process of writing a programme to do this.

banie01 · 04-04-2013 1:00pm

iba wrote: »

As far as I know, bouquets have not been written for the Arivas, so I have never used them - but I think STB (the person) wrote in a post a while back that he was in the process of writing a programme to do this.

Are you saying that the Ariva cannot create a simple multisat channel list?
i.e a list with say Sky Sports 1 28.2, FutbolHD 19.2, Tring Sport 16, Al Jazeera+1 13 all on a single list so you can use +/- to switch channel and sat?
Is it that the receiver does not allow multiple sats to be used in a channel list?

I'm asking as I have no experience of any non linux receivers...
But if the box does not allow creation of a favourites/channel list across multiple sats it would be a serious drawback for me.

As an example, I like to group all the sports/movies/documentary channels I receive across all sats into custom lists, so my sports list would have 28.2,23.5, 19.2, 16, 13, 9/10 all in a single list so I can scroll through by category rather than on a by satellite basis.(Same with movies and so on)
I use a Sly UK number matching Bouquet as my default and have all received networks broken out by provider i.e Sky Italia, Orange, CanaalSat and so on.
But apart from Sky my viewing on multisat is accessed by using my custom lists as I find it a handy way of breaking out viewing by categories rather than switching sats or providers constantly.

PS. Thats beside the fact that a Custom channel list of Favourite Channels and Weak TPs makes aligning and adjusting the dish and LNBs a hell of a lot easier than selecting 1 sat at a time!
I use an android app when I'm at the dish and it allows instant viewing of the signal strength and swapping between sat's to check any changes.

iba · 04-04-2013 3:30pm

banie01 wrote: »

Are you saying that the Ariva cannot create a simple multisat channel list?
i.e a list with say Sky Sports 1 28.2, FutbolHD 19.2, Tring Sport 16, Al Jazeera+1 13 all on a single list so you can use +/- to switch channel and sat?
Is it that the receiver does not allow multiple sats to be used in a channel list?

I'm asking as I have no experience of any non linux receivers...
But if the box does not allow creation of a favourites/channel list across multiple sats it would be a serious drawback for me.

As an example, I like to group all the sports/movies/documentary channels I receive across all sats into custom lists, so my sports list would have 28.2,23.5, 19.2, 16, 13, 9/10 all in a single list so I can scroll through by category rather than on a by satellite basis.(Same with movies and so on)
I use a Sly UK number matching Bouquet as my default and have all received networks broken out by provider i.e Sky Italia, Orange, CanaalSat and so on.
But apart from Sky my viewing on multisat is accessed by using my custom lists as I find it a handy way of breaking out viewing by categories rather than switching sats or providers constantly.

PS. Thats beside the fact that a Custom channel list of Favourite Channels and Weak TPs makes aligning and adjusting the dish and LNBs a hell of a lot easier than selecting 1 sat at a time!
I use an android app when I'm at the dish and it allows instant viewing of the signal strength and swapping between sat's to check any changes.

Sorry for not being clear.

Yes the Ariva can make favorite Chanel lists, eg I have News stations from 28, 19, 16 etc all grouped under a favorite catergory called News and I can switch between them with the +/- button.

But I thought you were talking about bouquets like RATS Bouquets that bring in transponders - sorry my confusion.

But I dont understand how you pull in your stations to get them in the 1st place. Example: so you want to get 13, 16 and 19 - do you start with just one LNB on your dish and then search for stations on 13 and then once you signal in on them, save them and then move onto 16 and do the same. And then once you have 13, 16 and 19 stations on your box make just a little channel list of the stations on each sat (13, 16 and 19) which have weakest transponders.

Whats the Android app - will it work on a Android phone or tablet or just on a Linux box?

banie01 · 04-04-2013 3:53pm

iba wrote: »

Sorry for not being clear.

Yes the Ariva can make favorite Chanel lists, eg I have News stations from 28, 19, 16 etc all grouped under a favorite catergory called News and I can switch between them with the +/- button.

Well in that case its easy to create a list of weak Tps to better align your LNBs and make tweaking a lot easier.

iba wrote: »

But I thought you were talking about bouquets like RATS Bouquets that bring in transponders - sorry my confusion.

Ah you meant auto updating bouquets!
In general terms bouquets just refers to a set of channel lists.
If one is discussing autobouquets or Rats updater that is a different topic

iba wrote: »

But I dont understand how you pull in your stations to get them in the 1st place. Example: so you want to get 13, 16 and 19 - do you start with just one LNB on your dish and then search for stations on 13 and then once you signal in on them, save them and then move onto 16 and do the same. And then once you have 13, 16 and 19 stations on your box make just a little channel list of the stations on each sat (13, 16 and 19) which have weakest transponders.

My dish is locked at 16e, If and when I change things around I use an updated satellites.xml along with my own channel lists to get peak reception.
When I am scanning new stations, I just either run a single TP scan or leave it run a full autoscan on all sats overnight with an updated bouquet and sats.xml

iba wrote: »

Whats the Android app - will it work on a Android phone or tablet or just on a Linux box?

There are many android sat finder apps out there.
I find Krkadoni's E2 sat finder and the Satfinder in Dreamdroid both to be very good.
Obviously they work on Android phones and tablets being that they are Android applications!
They connect via network(wifi or 3G) to Linux receiver to allow realtime viewing of signal strength and so on, some even allow video streaming.
I don't know if any of the apps out there will connect to your Ariva though..

If you use Android just search for Satellite finder in the store,there are literally hundreds to choose from.
There even some augmented reality ones that will show where the satellite arc is via your camera view finder.

snaps · 04-05-2013 10:52am

My latest set up. No motor now, Just a 1.1m fixed dish for 28, 23.5, 19, 16, 13, 10/9 and a 80cm for 1 west. Dishes are nice and low, great for maintenance and fiddling with! Feeds 2 Dreamboxes in the living room and kitchen. Ive an old sky dish on the side of the house feeding the bedrooms just with 28 east.

Manc-Red · 04-05-2013 10:06pm

snaps wrote: »

My latest set up. No motor now, Just a 1.1m fixed dish for 28, 23.5, 19, 16, 13, 10/9 and a 80cm for 1 west. Dishes are nice and low, great for maintenance and fiddling with! Feeds 2 Dreamboxes in the living room and kitchen. Ive an old sky dish on the side of the house feeding the bedrooms just with 28 east.

Nice work bud

Ronan Raver77 · 08-05-2013 12:50am

Well guys here is my set up!!! I disnt have the know how or patience to set it up myself..Main tv in Living room Amiko Alien and at the moment have two other tv's using Ferguson Ariva 150s.Sats im getting are 9e,13e,16e,19.2e, 23.5e and 28.2e.

iba · 08-05-2013 1:48pm

Ronan Devitt wrote: »

Well guys here is my set up!!! I disnt have the know how or patience to set it up myself..Main tv in Living room Amiko Alien and at the moment have two other tv's using Ferguson Ariva 150s.Sats im getting are 9e,13e,16e,19.2e, 23.5e and 28.2e.

Hi Ronan,

Can I ask, how do you get 6 sats but only have 5 LNBs and what Sat do you actually have it centered on?

Thanks

Peter Rhea · 08-05-2013 1:57pm

There is a smaller Sky-type dish above the multi-sat setup.

Ronan Raver77 · 08-05-2013 3:26pm

iba wrote: »

Hi Ronan,

Can I ask, how do you get 6 sats but only have 5 LNBs and what Sat do you actually have it centered on?

Thanks

Yeap as Peter said smaller dish on top.Not sure what dish it is centred on the lad who did the install set it up.

banie01 · 08-05-2013 4:37pm

Ronan Devitt wrote: »

Well guys here is my set up!!! I disnt have the know how or patience to set it up myself..Main tv in Living room Amiko Alien and at the moment have two other tv's using Ferguson Ariva 150s.Sats im getting are 9e,13e,16e,19.2e, 23.5e and 28.2e.

About bloody time Ronan! ;-)
Seriously though, enjoy your viewing and remember you wil be able to pull in a lot of 10e on the 9e LNB too(not that theres much on it, but can be handy for feeds.)

iba · 09-05-2013 1:44pm

banie01 wrote: »

About bloody time Ronan! ;-)
Seriously though, enjoy your viewing and remember you wil be able to pull in a lot of 10e on the 9e LNB too(not that theres much on it, but can be handy for feeds.)

Talking about 10 and 9e. I did a blind scan on 10e the other nite and pulled in hundreds of the stations from 9e. Obviously wrong. So I then did a preset scan on 10e and it still pulled in hundreds of stations from 9e. Is this a common occurrence?

My next idea is just scan in by each of the transponders on 10e individually - there are not too many. Or am I better off just scanning 9e and not bothering with 10 at all or vice-versa?

You might answer that the dish is slightly off but since I have it perfect for MBC (which is more important for me) at 91% strength and 71% quality, Im not going to move the dish.

iba · 09-05-2013 1:46pm

Ronan Devitt wrote: »

Yeap as Peter said smaller dish on top.Not sure what dish it is centred on the lad who did the install set it up.

ah probably 16 then - and the top dish has 28

Peter Rhea · 09-05-2013 2:22pm

It isn't aligned on 16 east, there's no lnb at the prime focus. Dish doesn't have to be aligned on an actual satellite position if all the lnbs are offset.

banie01 · 09-05-2013 2:37pm

iba wrote: »

Talking about 10 and 9e. I did a blind scan on 10e the other nite and pulled in hundreds of the stations from 9e. Obviously wrong. So I then did a preset scan on 10e and it still pulled in hundreds of stations from 9e. Is this a common occurrence?

My next idea is just scan in by each of the transponders on 10e individually - there are not too many. Or am I better off just scanning 9e and not bothering with 10 at all or vice-versa?

You might answer that the dish is slightly off but since I have it perfect for MBC (which is more important for me) at 91% strength and 71% quality, Im not going to move the dish.

Just merge the positions via either assigning the LNB to both sats in your advanced tuner setup or edit the satellite.xml file to include the full list of tps for both birds under 1 heading.
In general sats within 1.5deg of each other can both be received via 1LNB.

iba · 09-05-2013 2:45pm

banie01 wrote: »

Just merge the positions via either assigning the LNB to both sats in your advanced tuner setup or edit the satellite.xml file to include the full list of tps for both birds under 1 heading.
In general sats within 1.5deg of each other can both be received via 1LNB.

Thanks

Dont have an advanced tuner set up as far as I know. No idea about satellite.xml files either. Im talking about arivas here. But I understand what your saying.
Probably will just add the transponders from 10e to 9e

Thanks again

iba · 25-05-2013 12:33am

At last Im finished.

Top dish is 88cm and has Sats 28, 26, 23, 19 and 13 - it is centered on 26 and the bar is turned upside down. It goes into an 8x1 Diseqc to the attic and then is split to give 3 feeds to each bedroom. (also got an aerial lying in the rafters in the attic to get Terrestrial stations which is also split to go to three rooms)

Bottom dish is motorised and is 1.1 - it picks up the following:

East - 3, 4.8, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19, 23, 26 and 28
West - 1, 5, 12.5, 15, 22 and 30

I cant get 33, 36 and 39 (i think due to line of sight (house in the way))

So any suggestions how to improve, anything Im missing?

snaps · 25-05-2013 5:51am

iba wrote: »

At last Im finished.

Top dish is 88cm and has Sats 28, 26, 23, 19 and 13 - it is centered on 26 and the bar is turned upside down. It goes into an 8x1 Diseqc to the attic and then is split to give 3 feeds to each bedroom. (also got an aerial lying in the rafters in the attic to get Terrestrial stations which is also split to go to three rooms)

Bottom dish is motorised and is 1.1 - it picks up the following:

East - 3, 4.8, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19, 23, 26 and 28
West - 1, 5, 12.5, 15, 22 and 30

I cant get 33, 36 and 39 (i think due to line of sight (house in the way))

So any suggestions how to improve, anything Im missing?

How I hate to read these posts as it makes me want to re do and do more with my setup! So many times I go to the shed, pick up my motor and hesitate to mount it back up (Ive 3 receivers using my fixed dish set up, so can all watch different sats at the same time), But i could just motorize the Living room DM800 and be done with it (But really im only missing out on a handfull of sats like 7 east, 5 east and the western sats past 1 west).

A couple of questions:
How are you splitting your feeds in the attic? Are you using a multi switch? Is the motorized dish feeding a seperate receiver? Whats the signal on your 26 east like (Fixed 88 dish)? I would have thought 26 east on a 88cm dish would be very marginal?

Also re 33 east onwards, they do start to get lower to the horizon past 33 east, Ive next doors house blocking 33 east onwards. Ive only succesfully got 39/42east when ive fitted a dish with just a field in the line of sight! Even 30 west for me is fairly high up and that can be got with a 60 cm dish with no major problems.

Whats your setup?

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