BAMMA 24 - 3Arena 27th Feb

That_Guy · 27-01-2016 7:41pm

This team captains and the angle of "English fighters invading Ireland" is putting me off this event big time.

There's nothing better than live MMA but this is ill advised marketing on BAMMA's part and I have zero idea what it serves to prove.

The narrative is all wrong for this one. This isn't like a soccer match where home fans and away fans will be given their own allocated section.

What happens if I buy a ticket with mates and we end up seated beside idiots itching for a fight due to the divisive marketing of this event?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 27-01-2016 11:33pm

Gamebred wrote: »

This England invading Ireland thing on the 100th anniversary of 1916 the one of the stupidest ideas ive seen in mma,makes zero sense any time btw never mind a historic time for the country,bin the idea,nobody cares about barnett or spong captaining teams either it wont make one person extra buy a ticket who wasnt going.

Agreed 100%.

An absolutely retarded idea.

BAMMA scrap that crap.

themandan6611 · 27-01-2016 11:38pm

Echo the above posts, stupid idea and as said use the money to pay the fighters more. Was planning on going, now not so keen, seems BAMMA are trying to appeal to the cheap and tacky crowd rather than letting the card stand for itself.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 27-01-2016 11:45pm

themandan6611 wrote: »

Echo the above posts, stupid idea and as said use the money to pay the fighters more. Was planning on going, now not so keen, seems BAMMA are trying to appeal to the cheap and tacky crowd rather than letting the card stand for itself.

And the fact they said they're upping security for this says a lot too.

I won't be going.

themandan6611 · 27-01-2016 11:46pm

what does impress me is the amount of likes Gambred has got on this thread - must be a record

:pac:

only messing pal

Gamebred · 27-01-2016 11:53pm

themandan6611 wrote: »

what does impress me is the amount of likes Gambred has got on this thread - must be a record

:pac:

only messing pal

Im very unbiased and fair all things non Goat related :pac: I hope Bamma take the message on here and scrap this Idea,doubt it tbh though.

Whelo79 · 28-01-2016 9:46am

I have to agree with what has been said previously. This terrible idea, coupled with UFC London being on the same night will probably persuade a lot of undecided fans to stay away.

evil_seed · 28-01-2016 1:00pm

were looking forward to this. Now this crap has put us right off. Next one probably instead

EoineyM · 28-01-2016 1:07pm

I also am having second thoughts about this one given the way it is being marketed. There are great fighters and match ups on the card without having to hype this Irl v UK nonsense. For the few extra tickets sold to the celtic jersey brigade, the resulting messiness that will no doubt arise is very off putting. The attendees of the McGregor/aldo press conference in Dublin will look like MMA aficionados by comparison. Very poor judgement by BAMMA.

Dtp1979 · 28-01-2016 10:34pm

Yes, be prepared to see a lot of Celtic jerseys...

califano · 29-01-2016 12:13pm

Mixed feelings on this. If its to be treated like a mainstream sport then there is something ridiculous with pleading to take away a catch line such as Irl v Eng. Its like the FAI being lobbied to have no advertisement for an upcoming Irl v Eng soccer game at Landsdowne road lest it incite the travelling English fans. Pleading with Irish soccer fans to leave their sporting paraphernalia at home to lesson the chances of enticing violence. There is no such cries for this to happen so why is there in this fight card.

Mixed feelings because MMA is such an individual sport that i feel there is no need for the pretense of creating an Irl v Eng vibe. The fact there is no Irl v Eng match-up in the co or main event makes it even more redundant. But nevertheless i wouldn't be so down on the franchise for choosing to keep with this line. This is licenced sport and it shouldn't need to be sheltered by suggestions to go trouble free by not doing this and that.

Simply Red · 05-02-2016 6:08pm

Picked up my tickets for this today, going purely as a mma fan to watch and support a lot of the up-and-coming fighters. The whole Ireland vs England angle is a terrible idea and adds nothing to the show, it only serves to create tension and trouble when there doesn't need to be any.

mmapk · 07-02-2016 11:06pm

It looks like BAMMA have finally dropped this Ireland V England crap (according to the latest posters) Will they have the bollocks to come on here and (i was going to say apologise, but i think that's too strong, mis-guided? maybe?) However its gone. Long Live #MMA!

BRING IT ON!

mmapk · 07-02-2016 11:06pm

It looks like BAMMA have finally dropped this Ireland V England crap (according to the latest posters) Will they have the bollocks to come on here and (i was going to say apologise, but i think that's too strong, mis-guided? maybe?) However its gone. Long Live #MMA!

BRING IT ON!

darced · 08-02-2016 9:49pm

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ASOT · 08-02-2016 10:03pm

darced wrote: »

I don't get the outrage it was only an attempt to get more bums on seats, didn't Battlezone do similar before?

Yeah but there wasn't murder at battlezone the event previously, I didn't care to be honest but I could see why others would.

Dtp1979 · 08-02-2016 10:27pm

Celtic gladiator did Ireland v Poland a few years back. The Irish guy won the main event and now he's the UFC FW champ and fighting for the LW title soon

ASOT · 08-02-2016 10:30pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Celtic gladiator did Ireland v Poland a few years back. The Irish guy won the main event and now he's the UFC FW champ and fighting for the LW title soon

There's no animosity between Irish and Polish people though. That's what people are getting with, it's a very touchy subject given the year that's in it and the rugby etc

Gamebred · 08-02-2016 10:31pm

Anyone know the time of the first fight,I expect a few more fights to drop off the card through injury tbf,gonna be a long owl show.

That_Guy · 12-02-2016 6:53pm

Gamebred wrote: »

Anyone know the time of the first fight,I expect a few more fights to drop off the card through injury tbf,gonna be a long owl show.

Last time (and correct me if I'm wrong) I'm pretty sure the first bout was on at 4:30pm.

EDIT: FWIW, I don't think BAMMA need to really apologise. It was a misguided promotion gimmick that has received negative comments towards it and rightly so. If they have indeed backed off with the "Ireland vs England" tag line then fair play because they're obviously listening to their customers.

At the end of the day, they're a promotion trying to give great value for money cards. The card is good enough to sell on its own without the circus attached to it.

No need for the tribalism aspect because, while I may end up going to support Irish fighters, I would have no qualms applauding an English/French/Polish etc fighter if they put on a great performance.

Live fights are great. There really is nothing better imo but I would rather watch skilled and highly trained athletes in the cage rather than some drunken yobs squaring up to each other in the foyer.

I like BAMMA but having any sort of underlying tension throughout the afternoon/night could kill any sort of return to Ireland and tars fans/the sport in more negative criticism from the hacks who will use it as fuel to downplay MMA as nothing more than a glamorous street brawl... and come on BAMMA, you don't want that.

MartyMcFly84 · 15-02-2016 11:46am

Personally I don't think cards should be any more than 15 fights. If you have a them going the distance (you get about 3 in an hour). That a possibility of 5 hours of fights and if they are all first round finishes (5mins) You are looking at around 2 hours with walk ins etc. That is plenty of time to watch any sport and walk away feeling you have gotten value for your money.

Cards with 20 plus fights on top of having to wait for a TV slot can be very tiring. I remember at last BAMMA event I was in the arena for 6 hours+ because I had team mates early on, by the time the co main and main came on I was completely disinterested. Some say that is value for money but for me it was way to much of a good thing. Its very hard to concentrate on anything for that period of time. That added with people drinking for 6+ hours in an arena just gets messy.

I can see why many people don't come in until the main card. But it kind of defeats the purpose of the undercard imo.

seiphil · 26-02-2016 8:53pm

Not much of a buzz about this.

I'm looking forward to it. Will be in for the very first fight to see ho Cian Cowley get on.

Gene_Parmesan · 26-02-2016 10:44pm

Thought there would be more buzz in the thread with the fights starting tomorrow. I'll be in from the start too.

On another note, a few fighters missed weight but fights went ahead.
Conor Cooke v. Matt Hallam is off.

Weigh ins video below and BAMMA was live tweeting the weigh ins ith updates on the fighters that missed weight.

https://twitter.com/BAMMA?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Dtp1979 · 26-02-2016 11:01pm

So what's the final lineup?

Paully D · 26-02-2016 11:02pm

The weight-cutting seems to be a bit of a shambles at this level.

6 fighters failed to initially make weight with 1 fight cancelled today. There was about the same at BAMMA 22 from what I recall.

Swashbuckler · 26-02-2016 11:09pm

First BAMMA event. No idea what to expect but really looking forward to it.

Gene_Parmesan · 26-02-2016 11:35pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

So what's the final lineup?

full card is here (minus Cooke v. Hallam)

http://www.bamma.com/events/bamma-24

Gamebred · 26-02-2016 11:50pm

So did everyone else weigh in again on weight?

Ran like an amatuer show getting to fight in the point and you have a heap of guys not on the weight shocking if you ask me.

Gene_Parmesan · 27-02-2016 1:34am

No, Gary Morris and Cian Cowley missed weight but their opponents agreed to the fight.

Its only Cooke v. Hallam that's off.

Swashbuckler · 27-02-2016 12:11pm

Is it safe to presume the main event here is likely to clash with Silva v Bisping?

That_Guy · 27-02-2016 1:13pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Is it safe to presume the main event here is likely to clash with Silva v Bisping?

Without a doubt. Main card for BAMMA doesn't begin until 10pm.

johnpro · 27-02-2016 2:11pm

Disappointed 2 of my mates had to pull out with injuries but still looking forward to this! What time is the first fight starting?

seiphil · 27-02-2016 2:40pm

johnpro wrote: »

Disappointed 2 of my mates had to pull out with injuries but still looking forward to this! What time is the first fight starting?

Bamma said 4:20 on twitter.

That_Guy · 27-02-2016 2:54pm

So myself and mates decided to grab tickets for this in the end. Those two friends have pulled out. Flying the flag solo. Fúck it.

johnpro · 27-02-2016 3:57pm

That_Guy wrote: »

So myself and mates decided to grab tickets for this in the end. Those two friends have pulled out. Flying the flag solo. Fúck it.

You still have them? I was planning on getting them at the door but I'll take 1 off you if you have them and are going in early?

markcahill1985 · 27-02-2016 6:23pm

Anywhere you can watch the fights?

califano · 27-02-2016 6:31pm

Their twitter are showing the early prelims on periscope now.
Prelims on Lonsdale Facebook from 7pm

Main card 9pm on channel 5 sky 'other channels'

Frequency: 10.964
Polarity:- H
Symbol Rate: 22.0
FEC :- 5/6

Devastator · 27-02-2016 6:35pm

Gene_Parmesan wrote: »

full card is here (minus Cooke v. Hallam)

http://www.bamma.com/events/bamma-24

that fight is still showing on the card(from your link)

That_Guy wrote: »

Without a doubt. Main card for BAMMA doesn't begin until 10pm.

10? theres already 2 pre lim fights over. Would they seriously have 5 hours of pre lims before the (2/3 hr) main card?

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Anywhere you can watch the fights?

There may be some sites online that are showing pre lims from 7

Beersmith · 27-02-2016 8:11pm

So far this seems a well behaved event.

Swashbuckler · 27-02-2016 8:22pm

Great crowd here...good atmosphere.

MagicIRL · 27-02-2016 8:34pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjvnD4MtQ70

Hopefully this embed works for people

Devastator · 27-02-2016 8:44pm

Good performance from young Tuke

Zero-Cool · 27-02-2016 8:47pm

Haha gas walkout. Serious knee to the gut, impressive win.

Gumbi · 27-02-2016 9:13pm

Lads Lloyd Manning fought at what the ****? He's a big boy, did he even make weight?

Gumbi · 27-02-2016 9:36pm

Can't find the Rys McKee, Lloyd Manning, James Gallagher or Cian Cowley fights in the prelims, were they on earlier? 'Tis a pity because I would have liked to see them!

TitianGerm · 27-02-2016 9:52pm

Was meant to travel up to this but ended up missing out because I'm broke

Cheers for the freq for Channel 5 by the way.

Dtp1979 · 27-02-2016 10:08pm

califano wrote: »

Their twitter are showing the early prelims on periscope now.
Prelims on Lonsdale Facebook from 7pm

Main card 9pm on channel 5 sky 'other channels'

Frequency: 10.964
Polarity:- H
Symbol Rate: 22.0
FEC :- 5/6

Not working for me. Anybody having trouble watching?

Dtp1979 · 27-02-2016 10:19pm

All im getting is some stupid fcukin hull soccer match

Simply Red · 27-02-2016 10:48pm

Well done bamma, brilliant night so far, 0 crowd trouble here. 2 fights left

Gamebred · 27-02-2016 11:14pm

Went and watched the prelimes wanted to see Cowleys MMA debut,went as expected grapple ****ed,

Rhys McKee is a serious prospect teriffic fighter his head kick was like a crocop kick slept the guy,

James Gallagher won again easily hes the best grappler in the country at his age 19 only kid is going all the way to the top,

Tuke is a very unorthodox striker vicious style hard to train for starched Andrews great win another serious prospect,

The show was moving swiftly soon as they started taking the piss with the breaks I left got home for the Damien Rooney fight and the UFC london main card so cant complain.

BAMMA 24 - 3Arena 27th Feb

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