Attack of The Clones discuss?

i thought the love story was dealt with quite well. The film jumped to and from it and it was never more than five minutes at a time so it didn't break the film's tempo too much.

I certainly found it an improvement to the appallingly saccharine Phantom Menace. It certainly appeared darker, although largely due to the fact that it was clearly not geared towards kids this time round - the sense of the Republic being manipulated into a dark oblivion were present in both movies. Personally, for me the highlight was the Machiavellian manipulation that is quietly employed, to which the good guys remain largely oblivious to throughout. I also found the love story a little painful, as I found Anakin’s acting poor (Obi Wan’s, on the other hand has improved since the Phantom Menace).

Overall, slow starting, perhaps but certainly picks up in the last third or so of the movie. I suspect, given the number of plotlines that had to squashed in, it’s more than likely that one would have missed something on one’s first viewing.

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The origin of the Storm troopers was well addressed (one gets the impression that when originally mentioned in A New Hope, the ‘Clone Wars’ was a throw away phrase that Lucas had to somehow work into the story - which he has). Yoda rocked - When he opens up his coat to revile a light sabre, the entire theatre seemed to gasp in unison - “No. You’ve got to be taking the p1ss!” Yet it worked well.

Jar Jar Bink’s most important cameo in the senate was a clever idea. Here we had the comic relief that failed to be funny, from the previous episode, doing the only thing he knows how to do, which is be a buffoon, and handing absolute power over to the bad guys on a silver platter (yet another reason that he should die ).

Palatine is excellent, and frankly the best scene of the film comes at the end as he oversees his new ‘grand army of the republic’ boarding the first Star Destroyers - with the ‘Imperial March’ in the background for the first time, of course...
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AS has been already stated.. it was a major improvement on TPM, but to be honest that's not difficult. TPM was a complete disaster.

However, from a plot perspective I do not think it was dark enough. It did show glimpses of 'darkness' with various scenes involving Anakin, however it still missed the mark by a mile if the objective was to demonstrate the start of the slide into the 'dark side'.

Musically - nothing came close to the dark compositions of 'Empire', and I would have suspected that Williams would want to foreshadow or at least indicate the darkness within the music, as a simple queue for the audience. It just didnt' happen however.

I was hoping for better / more engaging acting, but found it instead mostly wooden.

Overall a good film, entertaining and popcorn fun..., but taken in context of the trilogy and things to come, not quite the dark half I was expecting.

I does leave the emphasis on the third episode for Anakins slide, but I felt it should have been signposted more in ep. 2 so that we could engage fully with the character and actually give a ****. One thing all the original movies had was seriously well developed characters, that we all cared about. When they died, it was tragic, When they escaped it was wonderful.. but at no time was anyone indifferent.

Unfortunately with the new stuff Lucas seems to have lost the plot a bit, and a lot of people just don't get as engaged with the characters and the story.

I must say that I did enjoy the references in ep. 2 to future events, but it was not enough for me. I wanted more from Anakin, I wanted to care about his slide to the dark side, the way I did about his redepmtion in 'Jedi'.

I know that people always make the argument that we were all a lot younger when we saw the original 3 eps, but that argument is invalid for those of us who watch those films every year, and see something new in them each time.

Bottom line... ep 2 was popcorn fun, but still nowhere near the quality of the original 3.

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Originally posted by The Corinthian
“No. You’ve got to be taking the p1ss!” Yet it worked well.

It was taking the p*ss though, he was leaping abot the whole fooking room like an acrobat, and when the fight ended he picked up his stick and started hobbling along!

This movies great though for ONE reason!:

Natalie Portman!

Me likes the bit when Sam L Jackson turned all 'Pulp Fiction like', pull out the light saber and says "This party's over". How does he do it so well?

I like the Jedi battle scene too - very well done.

Funnoest part of the movie is Yoda hobbling around the corner with the walkinfg stick and then opens a can of whoop ass on Dooku. Classic

Strong Yoda may not look but strong he is.

Originally posted by smalltalker
They really should have filmed that scene where he's dreaming about his mother with his hands above the covers.

Yes, that was a very disturbing image...

Originally posted by Saruman
The trade federation did order the droids yes but it was Duku who was controlling them and it was the emperor (palpatine) who was controlling him.. also he was directly controlling the trade federation in ep1 so it all comes down to being palpatine ordered both armies

As I said earlier Palpatine Owns. :cool:

THESE ARE MY


EP1
palpatine forces the trade fed into hostile action, and becomes chancelloer in process, he now has his own personal army ordered (clone warriors)

EP2
palpatine has the trade fed allign with sepratists (which he encouraged to leave), and has them build an army
he gets the jedi to investigate the trade fed planet and thus force the jedi to protect the republic and force the senate/jedi to acept the clone army due to the emergency of the situation

EP3
due to palpatine controlling both sides he uses this war to destroy the jedi and the trade federation, leaving him with absolute power and a huge fu<k off army

dun dun di dun, dun di dun, dun di dun.....

a good film

a class plot, had me thinking all they way through the film

but have the juedi ever heard of Sun tzu, a bit too evian for me

Originally posted by Practical
I had a number of problems with the film , everything below is my opinion so dont flare me with quotes :]

1. I found the acting rubbish

2. The quotes etc were so corny "I dont like sand , its rough and gets everywhere , not like you , your soft"

3. Till this day I dont inderstand why was picked to play Obi Wan Ken Obi , I find him too dull and he doesn't suit the character

4. Once again we seen very little action from the Bounty Hunter

5. I love Yodas fight scene but I felt it could of been longer , I hope in the next episode we will see more saber skills from him

6. I found the Love Scenes very boring

I know this film is for everyone but I just want to see if anyone agrees

1. The acting was very good except for Hayden Christenson - he was below average. I didn't have any complaints about the others though.

2. As i said earlier the love scenes between Anakin and Padme were very poorly scripted(perhaps new territory for Lucas)

3. I thought MacGregor was excellent in the role,which was new for him also.

4. The bounty hunter played his part in the plot. THere was not much need for him after that. There was no need for more action from him in the film.

5. Agreed. Yoda kicked ass big time. We might see more skills from him. But what we got was sufficient to get to know our little green friend kicked ass.

6. As i said they were poorly scripted but they were a very important part of the story. I didn't think they were boring, I thought they were a refreshing break from the other storylines. (Maybe it's just me)

But isnt the emperor a Sith? And Palpatine doesnt have those mad Sith eyes. Or does he? I didnt pay too much attention.

How come senator palpatines skin hasn't started decaying yet ?

From what I remember the Dark side of the force corrupts the body which is why darth vadar had to were the suit - he was falling to bits - the emperor in 4,5 and 6 was actually a clone of the original.