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Why is there many people who seem to be against interracial/interfaith relationships?

  • 22-12-2011 4:24pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 444 ✭✭


    I just notice it many times that it's not welcomed. What difference does it make if both people are happy together all the best to them.
    I heard stories from the past, when a catholic was marrying a protestant or vice versa, there were tensions and people trying to stop them. I think that was only because of the history between Ireland and England. Catholic and prodestant getting married is hardly an interfaith marriage, their both christian.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Because some people are prying c*nts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    Joanie loves Chachi!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭dcrosskid


    This doesnt happen anywhere near as much as it used to OP. Dont think many are too bothered about it that much anymore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    I heard stories from the past
    Yes, the past, certainly.

    But seriously, who is against this these days?

    Maybe you know of some isolated incidents, it certainly isn't typical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy



    Coversation about faith before a wedding 1954:


    "You're going to have to convert to Catholicism. That's all there is to it."
    - Ok.


    Coversation about faith before a wedding 2011:


    "Wait a second, I'm Baptist? I always thought I was Polish Catholic? And you're what? Like a Hindu or something?"

    - I'm Jewish.

    "No sh*t?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭geetar


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Because some people are praying c*nts.

    FTFY :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I just notice it many times that it's not welcomed. What difference does it make if both people are happy together all the best to them.
    I heard stories from the past, when a catholic was marrying a protestant or vice versa, there were tensions and people trying to stop them. I think that was only because of the history between Ireland and England. Catholic and prodestant getting married is hardly an interfaith marriage, their both christian.

    Did you just wake up from a 30 year coma or something?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Because its an abomination!!!


















    Just joking my da's a prod, my ma's a taig


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 MGHOW


    In order to put an end to these pointless semantic games which do nothing but distract from the topic, I will stop using the term "white" and replace it with a more descriptive term, "non-Jewish people of wholly European descent" Therefore, I am a NonJewishPersonOfWhollyEuropeanDescent, or NJPOWED.

    My original argument about all the NJPOWED who love Foreign Women is that they are a NJPOWED and the only reason they are a NJPOWED is because their parents were both NJPOWED, so they are now attracted to a woman who only exists because of non-NJPOWED men and women. These Foreign Women women are attracted to NJPOWEDs simply because they are NJPOWEDs, so they are each attracted to someone who could never have existed within their own race. In other words, the NJPOWED men are dependent on Filipina men and women to produce the Filipina women they so desire, and the Foreign Women women for their part are dependent on the NJPOWED men and women to produce the NJPOWED men they so desire. The child of an NJPOWED and a Foreign Women is neither an NJPOWED nor a Foreigner and the traits which attracted the child's parents to each other no longer exist. What a way to be cruel to your future son and condemn him to a life without sex or a racial identity.

    And before you cry racism, just remember that the only reason these Foreign Women are attracted to you in the first place is because you're an NJPOWED. It's easy to cry racism when you're in a privileged position.

    That is why.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Because of the wrongness of it.






















    Personally, I couldn't give a flying f*ck.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 444 ✭✭RainbowRose81


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Did you just wake up from a 30 year coma or something?

    No. I was just stating some obvious things that interest me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    because people are stupid, insular and bigotted sometimes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    BBDBB wrote: »
    because people are stupid, insular and bigotted sometimes

    AKA "c*nts". :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 444 ✭✭RainbowRose81


    later10 wrote: »
    Yes, the past, certainly.

    But seriously, who is against this these days?

    Maybe you know of some isolated incidents, it certainly isn't typical.

    Well if I was going out with a muslim man/deciding to get married to a muslim man. My parents would'nt exactly be happy I understand because women don't seem to be fairly, equally etc. Not saying that is the same in all cases though.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Reality tends to strike home after some months about a lot of things .Getting married because they love each others company needs time testing under the same roof . If they have similar backgrounds that's a better start . That makes for good sense which is anathema to popular sentiment today which prefers novel ways of doing things and with disastrous results .Time tested Ideas are often best .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    I just notice it many times that it's not welcomed. What difference does it make if both people are happy together all the best to them.
    I heard stories from the past, when a catholic was marrying a protestant or vice versa, there were tensions and people trying to stop them. I think that was only because of the history between Ireland and England. Catholic and prodestant getting married is hardly an interfaith marriage, their both christian.

    I am London-Irish, born in London to Irish parents.
    My parents were Catholic Republicans. I dated an English girl while I was living in London. When my parents found out my girlfriend was Church of England (Protestant), they gave me an ultimatum. Either I would have to dump her or they would disown me. I left home when I was 21 and never went back. I carried on dating my girlfriend, and my parents disowned me. They did not speak to me for 9 years, then they both tragically passed away.
    It has never mattered to me what religion someone is. I am an Atheist, and believe the world would be more peaceful with no religion. I think that religion creates more wars than it does create peace. I am pleased that things have moved on in my life time and there are more mixed marriages. I can understand how it can be difficult in mixed relationships, it works for some but not all. I went against my parents bigoted views and paid the price for it, but I have no regrets. They chose to disown me for dating a Protestant girl. That was their choice, not mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    My tribe >> your tribe

    still, for too many people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    MGHOW wrote: »
    In order to put an end to these pointless semantic games which do nothing but distract from the topic, I will stop using the term "white" and replace it with a more descriptive term, "non-Jewish people of wholly European descent" Therefore, I am a NonJewishPersonOfWhollyEuropeanDescent, or NJPOWED.

    My original argument about all the NJPOWED who love Foreign Women is that they are a NJPOWED and the only reason they are a NJPOWED is because their parents were both NJPOWED, so they are now attracted to a woman who only exists because of non-NJPOWED men and women. These Foreign Women women are attracted to NJPOWEDs simply because they are NJPOWEDs, so they are each attracted to someone who could never have existed within their own race. In other words, the NJPOWED men are dependent on Filipina men and women to produce the Filipina women they so desire, and the Foreign Women women for their part are dependent on the NJPOWED men and women to produce the NJPOWED men they so desire. The child of an NJPOWED and a Foreign Women is neither an NJPOWED nor a Foreigner and the traits which attracted the child's parents to each other no longer exist. What a way to be cruel to your future son and condemn him to a life without sex or a racial identity.

    And before you cry racism, just remember that the only reason these Foreign Women are attracted to you in the first place is because you're an NJPOWED. It's easy to cry racism when you're in a privileged position.

    That is why.

    Eh that's a little silly what you wrote dont you think?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    A lot of people who in the past would have bitched a lot about their daughter/son marrying someone of the "wrong" religion are now probably relieved that they get married at all rather than just "living in sin".:):):)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭TheLynx


    when white and black have children, they are half cast, its why the white popluation in america is in decline today, even though we are superior.

    Whites should only be with whites


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 444 ✭✭RainbowRose81


    I am London-Irish, born in London to Irish parents.
    My parents were Catholic Republicans. I dated an English girl while I was living in London. When my parents found out my girlfriend was Church of England (Protestant), they gave me an ultimatum. Either I would have to dump her or they would disown me. I left home when I was 21 and never went back. I carried on dating my girlfriend, and my parents disowned me. They did not speak to me for 9 years, then they both tragically passed away.
    It has never mattered to me what religion someone is. I am an Atheist, and believe the world would be more peaceful with no religion. I think that religion creates more wars than it does create peace. I am pleased that things have moved on in my life time and there are more mixed marriages. I can understand how it can be difficult in mixed relationships, it works for some but not all. I went against my parents bigoted views and paid the price for it, but I have no regrets. They chose to disown me for dating a Protestant girl. That was their choice, not mine.

    I am very sorry. That is really sad. Your parents must be sorry now.

    People are human beings first it's really ignorant when people don't acknowledge that. It's funny how people can called themselves catholic or christian or what ever, there suppose to take example of Jesus and they are behaving the complete opposite to the basis of what their religion teaches!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭SuperGrover


    MGHOW wrote: »
    In order to put an end to these pointless semantic games which do nothing but distract from the topic, I will stop using the term "white" and replace it with a more descriptive term, "non-Jewish people of wholly European descent" Therefore, I am a NonJewishPersonOfWhollyEuropeanDescent, or NJPOWED.

    My original argument about all the NJPOWED who love Foreign Women is that they are a NJPOWED and the only reason they are a NJPOWED is because their parents were both NJPOWED, so they are now attracted to a woman who only exists because of non-NJPOWED men and women. These Foreign Women women are attracted to NJPOWEDs simply because they are NJPOWEDs, so they are each attracted to someone who could never have existed within their own race. In other words, the NJPOWED men are dependent on Filipina men and women to produce the Filipina women they so desire, and the Foreign Women women for their part are dependent on the NJPOWED men and women to produce the NJPOWED men they so desire. The child of an NJPOWED and a Foreign Women is neither an NJPOWED nor a Foreigner and the traits which attracted the child's parents to each other no longer exist. What a way to be cruel to your future son and condemn him to a life without sex or a racial identity.

    And before you cry racism, just remember that the only reason these Foreign Women are attracted to you in the first place is because you're an NJPOWED. It's easy to cry racism when you're in a privileged position.

    That is why.

    heh. moronic ramblings are fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    TheLynx wrote: »
    when white and black have children, they are half cast, its why the white popluation in america is in decline today, even though we are superior.

    Whites should only be with whites

    But hasn't history shown us that white people are evil and they need declining so the world can live in peace?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    TheLynx wrote: »
    when white and black have children, they are half cast, its why the white popluation in america is in decline today, even though we are superior.
    On what basis exactly do you imagine whites being superior to blacks?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    When my parents found out my girlfriend was Church of England (Protestant), they gave me an ultimatum. Either I would have to dump her or they would disown me. I left home when I was 21 and never went back.

    So, after all the hardship and shunning, did you get your trousers the whole way off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭TheLynx


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    But hasn't history shown us that white people are evil and they need declining so the world can live in peace?

    Looking at how africa is/has been ruled, mugabe, idi amin etc

    I prefer to live in an educated white majority society


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I think for the health of the nations genetic pool, interracial procreation should be enforced across the board. Maybe in 4 or 5 generations we could get an Irish nation that could get a tan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    28064212 wrote: »
    On what basis exactly do you imagine whites being superior to blacks?

    This?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 444 ✭✭RainbowRose81


    TheLynx wrote: »
    when white and black have children, they are half cast, its why the white popluation in america is in decline today, even though we are superior.

    Whites should only be with whites

    That is wrong. People have the right to settle with who they wish to. There more ethnicities that consits of skin colours other than black and white, there are yellow and brown skinned ethnicities and mix ethnicities also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    TheLynx wrote: »
    Looking at how africa is/has been ruled, mugabe, idi amin etc

    I prefer to live in an educated white majority society

    Well who wouldn't want to live is an educated society white or otherwise?


    But your white people are superior is a load of nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    TheLynx wrote: »
    when white and black have children, they are half cast, its why the white popluation in america is in decline today, even though we are superior.

    Whites should only be with whites


    "Half cast"? Are you talking about people or foundry techniques?:confused:

    The white founding fathers of America, not least Thomas Jefferson, didn't seem to have any problem with interracial sex, as they rode the arses off their female slaves at every opportunity and in the process helped create the segment of the American population that is darker-skinned than most Europeans and lighter-skinned than most sub-Saharan Africans.

    And do you really think you are superior to Barack Obama, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King --- ROFLMAO:):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    My brother married a protestant and they are raising their family protestant to keep the tradition alive in this country.

    What can I say, every family has its shame. (joke)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    28064212 wrote: »
    On what basis exactly do you imagine whites being superior to blacks?

    Don't feed him, ffs.

    In before someone says miscegenation is good for the gene pool. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    I tried the whole interfaith relationship dealie, and it probably would have been fine only for his Jewish mother. Oy vey.

    I wouldn't consider my current relationship interfaith, although it is certainly intercultural (ie he doesn't get Father Ted humour at all at all :(). I was brought up Catholic and am now atheist, and he has been atheist from day one. Luckily he's pretty good about humouring my mom by coming to Christmas mass and all, but there's no way in hell we'll be baptising any prospective sprogs. They shall grow up to love the Glorious Mother Russia, and that is all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    44leto wrote: »
    My brother married a protestant and they are raising their family protestant to keep the tradition alive in this country.

    I married a (nominal) Protestant and we raised our children as atheists. That's a tradition that is really worth keeping alive and promoting. :):):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    TheLynx wrote: »
    when white and black have children, they are half cast, its why the white popluation in america is in decline today, even though we are superior.

    Whites should only be with whites

    These threads dredge up some strange artifacts from the scum at the bottom of the pond.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    I married a (nominal) Protestant and we raised our children as atheists. That's a tradition that is really worth keeping alive and promoting. :):):)

    Each to their own, but how do you raise a child an atheist, religion is a natural impulse. I bet they scream God every now and again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    TheLynx wrote: »
    when white and black have children, they are half cast, its why the white popluation in america is in decline today, even though we are superior.

    Whites should only be with whites




    its always the dreggs of the white race that are rascists......odd that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭teaandtoast


    What does it matter where anyone is from as long as they are happy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    What does it matter where anyone is from as long as they are happy.


    ...but what if they worship the wrong Jesus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    These threads dredge up some strange artifacts from the scum at the bottom of the pond.

    Thus proving it's to do with lack of education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    44leto wrote: »
    Each to their own, but how do you raise a child an atheist, religion is a natural impulse. I bet they scream God every now and again.

    Children are programmed to accept ideas more readily, they want to learn and ask lots of questions.
    It's quite possible to raise a child an atheist , but it's just easier to say god did it.

    The elders of the pueblo always have better answers when Mother only knows about the central hatchery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    kowloon wrote: »
    Children are programmed to accept ideas more readily, they want to learn and ask lots of questions.
    It's quite possible to raise a child an atheist , but it's just easier to say god did it.

    The elders of the pueblo always have better answers when Mother only knows about the central hatchery.

    I am not sure. Lets do a thought experiment. If you were to put a bunch of kids on a desert Island, they would naturally develop communication and rules of grammar, a sexuality and I think a religion.

    Religion is a natural programming in humanity. That does not mean god exists, it just a qwirkery of our evolution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    44leto wrote: »
    Each to their own, but how do you raise a child an atheist, religion is a natural impulse. I bet they scream God every now and again.
    To date they have found no feral children that have been Catholic or in any way religious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ScumLord wrote: »
    To date they have found no feral children that have been Catholic or in any way religious.

    That's true.

    Feral children are invariably Protestant if memory serves. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    44leto wrote: »
    Each to their own, but how do you raise a child an atheist,

    Just don't have them baptised, don't entrust them to the care of priests or nuns, send them to a secular school, don't tell them any of those ridiculous sky fairy tales and if they ask questions about anything, either answer them in accordance with what you know or tell them you don't know ...

    44leto wrote: »
    religion is a natural impulse. I bet they scream God every now and again.

    I challenge you to prove your first assertion. Religion is not a natural impulse. It is an unnatural creation of the human mind. And my children have never shown any inclination towards believing in anything other than what can be detected with the senses or instruments, much less screamed "God". Maybe the fact that we were able to raise them far away from Ireland and the malign influence of the kiddy-fiddler church was a big and fortuitous factor in that. :):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Just don't have them baptised, don't entrust them to the care of priests or nuns, send them to a secular school, don't tell them any of those ridiculous sky fairy tales and if they ask questions about anything, either answer them in accordance with what you know or tell them you don't know ...




    I challenge you to prove your first assertion. Religion is not a natural impulse. It is an unnatural creation of the human mind. And my children have never shown any inclination towards believing in anything other than what can be detected with the senses or instruments, much less screamed "God". Maybe the fact that we were able to raise them far away from Ireland and the malign influence of the kiddy-fiddler church was a big and fortuitous factor in that. :):)

    Have they shown an inclination towards a spirituality, do they connect to things that are greater then themselves. Spirituality is a type of religion. Spirituality also makes no rational sense.

    I can prove it by throwing up links, your sense of religion has a genetic link. It can be inherited. So the brain has develloped a mechanism to support it. Its a very useful thing for a social intelligent animal. It give hope and eases pain. Evolution would support such a survival mechanism.

    I picked this one but google religion genetic link and choose your own if interested.

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=genetic%20link%20religion&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.entheogens.com%2Fgodgene.html&ei=Gfv0TtfzE8K1hAfusJCoBQ&usg=AFQjCNEIuBfRlz7KRKTShbpdz43lLi8Q4A


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    I challenge you to prove your first assertion. Religion is not a natural impulse. It is an unnatural creation of the human mind. And my children have never shown any inclination towards believing in anything other than what can be detected with the senses or instruments, much less screamed "God". Maybe the fact that we were able to raise them far away from Ireland and the malign influence of the kiddy-fiddler church was a big and fortuitous factor in that. :):)

    religion is historically universal, however, which is what he meant. I see your kids becoming islamic:pac: sometime in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    ScumLord wrote: »
    To date they have found no feral children that have been Catholic or in any way religious.

    Really, that depends on the age they were abandoned or lost. They have problems with grammar but they can communicate in time, but very poorly to not at all. It also has to be said feral children are always alone, there are no other humans to develop with. A human growing up without any other human contact is absolutely unnatural. There will be serious developmental problems, especially the way their brain operates.

    They would not have the capacity to devellop a religion or grammar.


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