Rubbish tyres on the majority of cars

I leaned my lesson when I rented a car one time in the wet I skidded so easy it was spooky. It was just skid but after that drove so slow in the wet as it was lethal to go faster than 25MPH in the wet the tires were seriously bad crap tires

A few months back in heavy rain after dry period in suburban traffic I was in in my old faithful 1400cc small Jap crap car . Then I got rear ended turning into supermarket entrance .
The shops video surveillance system caught it all on tape . The Garda cant prosecute because it isn't proof of excessive speed of the other driver

The boot region extending out one meter from back of car was destroyed . It was then flat as pancake .
Jap cars are great machines but dont do much metal in them so they great on MPG as they are light
However when they are small they are real crap in a big crunch .
Been there done that got the T shirt

The other car must have hit me at ~40KPH plus to do that damage and the other car nearly climbed into back passenger section.

I Hate to think what the house wife with kids in back seats the injuries would have been bad I think in such small Jap crap car.
Me i am old codger so its not big deal if I go out exit stage left I had a good inning so I will continue to drive jap crap its so cheap to drive

The rear ender crash spun my car around and propelled it to much faster speed in a slit second and it hit a wall backwards
So for me it was double hit impact crash .
The low wall pushed the back axle forward several inches again .
I saw the car a few days later after crash before it became a can of beans and it was totally wrecked in the rear sections

Best I can guess as I was knocked out for a few minutes probably from the first impact as all I remember was enormous bang and then I was somewhere else in lots of pain in my head and neck and mostly paralyzed .

I came to so i was picking up scraps of stuff .The Garda were there in two minutes i think just happened to come across the accident as I was waking up with sore neck
I couldn't move myself or my legs and left arm . lucky with my dody right arm control i could just about reach
the electric window button with my right arm and wind it down .
I told them call an ambulance and they did
That was spooky real spooky not being able to move my body . I dont want to that again and my head and neck hurt like hell .

It seems that is actually frequent in accident temporary parallelized after accidents . I never knew that . After several hours the most of the paralyzed effects mostly wear off but the pain then really kicks in big time

It seems the other driver was in 2000cc rented thing mid sized of some sort probably diesel for economy

The head rest saved my neck and the driver seat totally moved into the rear passenger section when it came past the stoppers and seat bent back 45 degrees . if the impact was just a fraction more harder I can guarantee you it was broken neck time for me. I must invest in better stronger seats in my other cars

It turned into a full fire brigade job to extract me from the car with cutting off the roof .

There is some long term injury's where I will need to only use automatic cars as the left arm is not ever to work properly from damage done and other issues that are possible long term issues .

The fire and ambulance crew and the hospital were great They zaped me all sorts.
Then with pain killer neck collar and arm holder and pills to dull pain I was able to leave the hospital that night from choice
I was more worried to catch some nasty disease from the place so took the choice to leave there ASAP .

Any hospital you can walk or crawl or crutches your way out of the day you come in the best hospital is my motto .

My own best guess now is that most all rented cars are on the crappiest of the crappiest tires .

So put the word out to anybody renting a car for any reason like short term rents or long term rents consider to not drive in the rain at all.
If not then dont speed over 30 KPH if its wet .

I heard the hiss of brakes on tires locked up on the wet one second before impact . The girl who had car was 08 type car probably had ABS but with crap tires they probably dont work .

My guess the driver would have slowed down enough with good tires on that car . Then it would only have been a fender bender at worst and in fact she might have stopped or steered around me as I had mostly finished the turn .

yes conditions were a factor and yes she was was seen in the video from the shops that filmed it all to have appeared to be going too fast for the conditions of the day that was in it .

However tell me any driver who hasn't made that mistake and nearly rear ended something but for good tires and and other good luck got away with it or had just a minor fender bender .


In my crash the other driver was a sales representative of sorts and it seems does lots of driving all year round probably ~50k a year .
As it was mid morning I dont think there was any drink involved .
I presume her company has done the rental agreement solutions that is popular these days with many companies . A friend for me had rental van for his six month contract and I warned him never to go fast in the rain .He said he already knew that the rented van was lethal in the wet he skidded into the forecourt of the filling station and burst one tire against the high curbs nearly taking out the petrol pumps . He claimed the spare tire was dodgy damaged and got two new tires fitted under the insurance scheme and put them the front of the van After that it was slightly better control in the wet

However the rental agreement with many rental cars will not allow control of the purchase of tires . My best guess is the rented car that hit me the tires were crap .

For me I dont think that the arm will ever work properly but it sure beats the total below the neck paralyzed effect I had after the crash.
So now i am back walking after l coming back from possible broken neck within hours of going to Hospital so all is well that ends nearly well accept the pain and need to eat pain killers every day .


The moral of the story you can have the best tires on the planet but the other person can still have very legal and very lethal tires on their car and not know that in the wet conditions they are driving a death trap that can wreck their life and others if they hit other cars .

The video on post #28 before this post shows just how seriously bad cheap tires are in the wet when needing to stop from ~30MPH it seems you sail on top of the water like a boat for much further than good tires .

In the dry this crash I was in would probably never have taken place or at worst would probably have been minor fender bender .
As the other driver insurance knows it rear ender the debate on fault doesn't exist rear ending is the other drivers fault .

The unknown factor is the tires that were on the other car and my guess a rented car they were crappo cheapest crappo tires out there perfectly legal but had some unpronounceable Chinese name .

if your renting a car or van look the tires on it as they might kill you in the wet and Ireland is real wet many days

Derry