Green Bay Packers Thread

cosatron · 19-01-2015 3:30pm

God that sucked serious c**k. I couldn't watch the second game cause I was so pissed off and just went to bed. I think slocum has to go and get in a new special team coach, ideally a new younger DC would be great but I can't see that happening cause for 55min the defence was unreal, 5 sacks and 4 ints. Hopefully McCarthy will learn from this, his usually a more aggressive play caller but was vanilla last night. It was obvious that Rodgers didn't train much the last couple of weeks as he was definitely out of sync with the receivers, especially the one to jordy in the corner, but its a good learning kerb for next year and I think its superbowl or bust next year considering how young our roster is and we have a real stud in Clinton-dix, his going to right up there with woodson in the next couple of years. Get raji back and a mlb that can stop the f**king run and we will be there or there about.

Agent J · 19-01-2015 6:49pm

*Sigh* You've got to take the rough with the smooth in sports. Greenbay had it in their hands and blew it on multiple occasions and the Seahawks came back and punished us for it.

I am less annoyed than I was last night but still....

poldebruin · 19-01-2015 9:24pm

Condolences today Packer fans. You guys almost played a flawless game and then turned in the most flawed performance in the last 5 minutes I think I have ever seen. Was really hoping got see a Packers v Patriots, Brady v Rodgers showdown in the Superbowl.

Barney92 · 19-01-2015 10:16pm

It really was one of the best performances I've seen from the defence. Until the 4th quarter anyway. That first half was pretty special. The Seahawks probably weren't on top form, but it was one of the first times I've had complete faith in the defence getting off the field. It was a shame that it reverted to the complete faith in them not being able to get off the field late in the game.

poldebruin · 19-01-2015 10:22pm

How the special teams were sent out to allow that fake to happen I'll never know. Let Seattle back into the game and it was screaming fake from the way the game had gone to that point.

The 2 man rush and the failure to enforce the unsportsmanlike penalty also came on that drive if I remember.

raze_them_all_ · 20-01-2015 12:40am

poldebruin wrote: »

How the special teams were sent out to allow that fake to happen I'll never know. Let Seattle back into the game and it was screaming fake from the way the game had gone to that point.

The 2 man rush and the failure to enforce the unsportsmanlike penalty also came on that drive if I remember.

no matter what you look at I'm more amazed bostick thought his hands would be safer than Nelsons!!

NotASheeple · 23-01-2015 1:51am

I still haven't come to terms with what happened last weekend. For me it was an embarrassing capitulation. I'm also worried Rodgers might be turning into a Manning style QB. I don't like saying it, he wins impressively in the regular season, but is not the same player in the post season. He needs to improve on 7-5 imo. McCarthy also has questions to answer, at key moments in the game he was out coached and it cost us dearly. I was really looking forward to us playing the Pats & Brady. But the PEDhawks denied us.

UnitedIrishman · 23-01-2015 2:18am

NotASheeple wrote: »

I still haven't come to terms with what happened last weekend. For me it was an embarrassing capitulation. I'm also worried Rodgers might be turning into a Manning style QB. I don't like saying it, he wins impressively in the regular season, but is not the same player in the post season. He needs to improve on 7-5 imo. McCarthy also has questions to answer, at key moments in the game he was out coached and it cost us dearly. I was really looking forward to us playing the Pats & Brady. But the PEDhawks denied us.

Given that his defence has cost him again and again in the playoffs, wouldn't be too quick on bracketing him with Manning. Last season Micah Hyde should have ended the game against the 49ers (and Dom Capers should have maybe copped that Kaepernick has a pair of legs). The year before our D gave up a million yards on the ground and 45 points on the road to the 49ers. The year before that the Giants put 37 points on us.

This week a multitude of **** went the way for the Seahawks to win - and even when we looked to have pissed it away AR goes on a massive drive to send the game to overtime. The playcalling with 4 mins to go was pathetic, but as a QB you can't rogue and decide to change it.. if you lose then you have a situation where you and you're coach are basically at odds forever after. Someone has already mentioned it but it's unforgiveable for McCarthy not to let AR throw the ball and make a first down in these situations to leave the ball in our hands. How many times have we seen it happen? We're sitting behind the couch with the other team on the march downfield because we didn't end it on our terms. I'm getting pissed off thinking about it even now.

I'd love to have seen us still get rid of Capers - despite it not being the worst few games defensively for us in post-season - but I'm resigned to not seeing that until McCarthy goes. I just have no faith in us blowing winning siutations or stopping drives from 4-5 points ahead. Would have been brilliant to go and get Vic Fangio ahead of the Bears but we're too conservative and organisation to do things like that, unfortunately. Instead we have to build our D in a major way through the draft. Our offensive line is so solid, our WR's are excellent, Rodgers and Quarless are good at TE and I think Rodgers will come on a lot and Lacy is a brilliant foil at RB for AR. An ILB, some big DB's who can put in a ****ing tackle and DT are the main three with the latter being the main need.

Genuinely so sickened since the game, couldn't post up any thoughts on it. Going to rewatch it again in a week or so when I get the chance.. Dunno if the laptop will survive the kicking though.

NotASheeple · 23-01-2015 2:38am

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Given that his defence has cost him again and again in the playoffs, wouldn't be too quick on bracketing him with Manning.

I was just expressing a worry that he might eventually end up with a Manning style post season record. I know he hasn't right now, but I think we need a greater return on our post season trips. I'm still too emotionally exhausted and pissed off, to even contemplate the rest of the good points you raised in your post.

Pherekydes · 23-01-2015 9:15am

The more I reflect on it, the less I'm inclined to blame Capers. You can call on your defence to stop the O only so many times, and they did, brilliantly. But McCarthy kept putting them in. Eventually, the worst O will score on the best D. You can't keep giving the likes of Lynch and Wilson chances to score.

I'm afraid the responsibility for this loss lies with McCarthy, with a side helping of Slocum. Had the O kept picking up first downs then the fake FG wouldn't have mattered, the onside kick might never have happened. You can't just run Lacy or Starks at them. They were expecting that 100%. Keep them off balance with your short, high percentage passing game.

I'm very pessimistic about next season. It's a matter of morale. It's completely blown.

The rookies, Rodgers and Adams should be bigger factors, and the line should be set. The run game should be able to pull its weight. I'm just worried about the morale of the organisation.

McCarthy has a lot of soul-searching to do between now and September.

cosatron · 23-01-2015 12:10pm

NotASheeple wrote: »

I still haven't come to terms with what happened last weekend. For me it was an embarrassing capitulation. I'm also worried Rodgers might be turning into a Manning style QB. I don't like saying it, he wins impressively in the regular season, but is not the same player in the post season. He needs to improve on 7-5 imo. McCarthy also has questions to answer, at key moments in the game he was out coached and it cost us dearly. I was really looking forward to us playing the Pats & Brady. But the PEDhawks denied us.

i guarantee you if Rodgers was 100% fit, we would have beaten the seahawks handy, the game would of been over at half time. considering the injury he had and to do what he in did in the loins, dallas and seahawks was remarkable. Because teams would of been weary of his legs prior to the injury and once he couldn't move, teams didn't have to imply a spy or similar tactics and let the safeties stay in coverage.

cosatron · 23-01-2015 12:13pm

Pherekydes wrote: »

The more I reflect on it, the less I'm inclined to blame Capers. You can call on your defence to stop the O only so many times, and they did, brilliantly. But McCarthy kept putting them in. Eventually, the worst O will score on the best D. You can't keep giving the likes of Lynch and Wilson chances to score.

I'm afraid the responsibility for this loss lies with McCarthy, with a side helping of Slocum. Had the O kept picking up first downs then the fake FG wouldn't have mattered, the onside kick might never have happened. You can't just run Lacy or Starks at them. They were expecting that 100%. Keep them off balance with your short, high percentage passing game.

I'm very pessimistic about next season. It's a matter of morale. It's completely blown.

The rookies, Rodgers and Adams should be bigger factors, and the line should be set. The run game should be able to pull its weight. I'm just worried about the morale of the organisation.

McCarthy has a lot of soul-searching to do between now and September.

I disagree, I think they will have a huge chip on there shoulder and use it as motivation for next year. Resign bulaga and cobb and pick up NT and ILB in the draft or work out something with raji and I think we will have a serious shot at the superbowl.

OldMrBrennan83 · 23-01-2015 12:44pm

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jman0war · 23-01-2015 4:34pm

Aside from the blunder of errors another thing that worried me from the start was AR.
He looked unfit and wasn't in top form.

It was clear he spent the previous week on the couch.

NotASheeple · 26-01-2015 3:36am

Pherekydes wrote: »

I'm very pessimistic about next season. It's a matter of morale. It's completely blown.

Is that you Spiralism....:pac:

Seriously though. We'll recharge during the offseason and hopefully McCarthy will have a long & hard look at the team and some of his own decisions.

raze_them_all_ · 29-01-2015 1:07am

charles woodson signed a new contract with raiders, kinda sad signing a 38 year old.....well no...
The veteran safety is coming off a season in which he recorded a career-high 113 tackles and four picks

UnitedIrishman · 29-01-2015 1:10pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

charles woodson signed a new contract with raiders, kinda sad signing a 38 year old.....well no...
The veteran safety is coming off a season in which he recorded a career-high 113 tackles and four picks

Watched him in a couple of games - notably the Chiefs game - and he was as good as ever. It says something about his professionalism given the lack of ability around him that he has maintained his level of effort.

UnitedIrishman · 30-01-2015 11:07pm

In unsurprising news, Shawn Slocum is gone as special teams coach.

raze_them_all_ · 31-01-2015 10:42am

DoM capers next please!

NotASheeple · 31-01-2015 10:55pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

DoM capers next please!

I'm crossing my fingers & testicles.

02-02-2015 11:01am

The result last night makes it all kinda worse.

I was hoping for a Pats blowout win, so we could say "ah no team could have stuck with that".

Instead, we have a narrow Pats win, the memory of how easily we overcame them a few weeks back, the feeling that we should have been there...goddamit Bostick and Clinton-Dix and Capers and McCarthy and Slocum and Burnett hitting the turf and...it's just worse now...

raze_them_all_ · 02-02-2015 12:34pm

for me last nights team makes it worse, proves a team can't play for a few minutes of scoring and win the sb.

Vanolder · 02-02-2015 3:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The result last night makes it all kinda worse.

I was hoping for a Pats blowout win, so we could say "ah no team could have stuck with that".

Instead, we have a narrow Pats win, the memory of how easily we overcame them a few weeks back, the feeling that we should have been there...goddamit Bostick and Clinton-Dix and Capers and McCarthy and Slocum and Burnett hitting the turf and...it's just worse now...

Easy?

jman0war · 02-02-2015 3:44pm

I agree Conor.
The Patriots looked good for the 1st quarter only.

IF the Packers played only a little bit smarter against the Seahawks they'd be lifting the Lombardi trophy today.

OldMrBrennan83 · 02-02-2015 3:51pm

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cosatron · 02-02-2015 4:45pm

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Its on like donkey kong.....

UnitedIrishman · 04-02-2015 7:05pm

Ron Zook our new special teams coordinator. Not exactly fantastic news given you would think that if he was an assistant under Slocum he would've been able to change something.

Steelers ST rankings under him:
1996 23rd
1997 24th
1998 13th

Also Letroy Guion was arrested for weed possession. Unless the guy was hauling it in by the kilo, it's pretty much a non-story.

Pherekydes · 04-02-2015 10:05pm

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Also Letroy Guion was arrested for weed possession. Unless the guy was hauling it in by the kilo, it's pretty much a non-story.

Felony possession of 357g of marijuana and felony possession of a registered firearm. Also found with $190000 in US currency, i.e. cash, in the vehicle. Cops also reported he was uncooperative and hostile.

Bad news.

raze_them_all_ · 05-02-2015 1:21am

Somebody gotta pick up sam hurds slack, in all seriousness though, he told cops he had the gun, hoping the money was for his sportscar/house he was going to buy, otherwise his career is over

NotASheeple · 05-02-2015 7:59pm

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Instead, we have a narrow Pats win, the memory of how easily we overcame them a few weeks back,.

I expected a Pack Vs Pats Superbowl this year and so I've watched more Pats games than I normally would. One thing that stood out, when we played them it really looked like they were not showing their hand, whereas we were. That game and the result was completely meaningless.

jman0war wrote: »

I agree Conor.
The Patriots looked good for the 1st quarter only.

Did you watch the 4th quarter? Brady carved them up on back to back TD drives. In fact the points they scored in the SB second half, equaled the entire amount of points the Hawks have conceded, in their previous 6 games second halfs. Their first quarter was good, their 4th quarter was excellent. I personally wouldn't take that away from them.

Pherekydes · 09-02-2015 8:39am

Several websites are reporting that Tom Clements has been promoted Associate HC, with responsibility for play calling.

Edgar Bennett has been promoted to Clements' old OC job.

McCarthy demotes himself.

OldMrBrennan83 · 09-02-2015 9:22am

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nasty_crash · 09-02-2015 2:05pm

haha seems to be the only reason for mccarthy doing this is to promote clements - said he couldnt understand why clements wasnt approached for a HC job this year!
for the packers it can only be positive - the only offensive critic on the season would have been the second half in seattle to be a bit more positive and maybe clements might be a bit more aggressive

UnitedIrishman · 12-02-2015 7:14pm

Interesting to hear what McCarthy has done with the rest of the staffing.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/insidersblog/2015/02/12/mccarthy-finalizes-staff/23295863/

The Green Bay Packers officially have announced the changes to their 2015 coaching staff.

Tom Clements, the team's offensive coordinator since 2012, will step into the role of associate head coach/offense. It's expected he'll also handle play-calling duties.

Receivers coach Edgar Bennett was promoted to offensive coordinator. He served as running backs coach from 2005-10 before moving to receivers the past four seasons. Quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt will now also be responsible for coaching receivers.

Ron Zook replaces Shawn Slocum as special-teams coordinator. The former Florida and Illinois coach joined the staff last year as Slocum's assistant. He'll be assisted by Jason Simmons, who was the No. 3 assistant last season.

The Packers also made the hiring of former San Francisco offensive line coach Mike Solari and Oklahoma defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery official. Solari will assistant James Campen in coaching the Packers' offensive line. Montgomery will serve as a defensive front assistant.

Packers coach Mike McCarthy is scheduled to speak with the media at 12 p.m. Central Time.

McCarthy himself is going to be more involved on D and special teams by the looks of things: (All quotes via @RobDemovsky)

"Think I have a lot more to offer. I've enjoyed going through the cutups with the defensive staff. Be more involved with def scheme. I'm going to spend a lot of time with special teams. Special teams needs to improve." McCarthy said it was hard to give up play calling: "I'm going to miss it. I know that. The reason to do this is about winning championships. That never changes. Not the first time I've thought about this. This is the time to do it. Our staff's ready. One game doesn't make decisions on how you run your program."

McCarthy on Clements calling plays: "Tom's called plays as a player, he's called plays in the National Football League. The fit with Aaron is of the highest priority."

raze_them_all_ · 18-02-2015 2:12pm

Packers really clearing house after the seattle game. Bostik released now

nasty_crash · 18-02-2015 3:47pm

See that Cobb only looking for 9 mill a year - same as the nelson deal - that would be amazing to get the 2 deals done for 18mill a year - Megatron is 24 mill against the cap on his own so id be delighted if we get cobb and nelson for 9 mill each!!

Take my money!!!

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raze_them_all_ · 18-02-2015 6:24pm

I dont think we keep him for nelson money

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raze_them_all_ · 18-02-2015 10:26pm

I can see raiders bears going for cobb

cosatron · 18-02-2015 10:42pm

Bulaga is no 1 priority. Any rumours on what kind of money his after or will he just get paid.

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raze_them_all_ · 18-02-2015 11:01pm

Baluga will be kept more than cobb will be imo. We finally have a decent offensive line. That are pretty young. That aint going to be broke up for a while ydt imo

UnitedIrishman · 19-02-2015 1:57am

If it came down to it and had to choose between Bulaga and Cobb, it's Bulaga all day (at their respective pay grades obviously).

That said, I'd rather see us find space by not renewing Raji and getting rid of Hawk and Jones. Raji is a big hit or miss in a way, and Hawk and Jones have proven themselves not good enough for the money they're on.

raze_them_all_ · 19-02-2015 2:40am

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

If it came down to it and had to choose between Bulaga and Cobb, it's Bulaga all day (at their respective pay grades obviously).

That said, I'd rather see us find space by not renewing Raji and getting rid of Hawk and Jones. Raji is a big hit or miss in a way, and Hawk and Jones have proven themselves not good enough for the money they're on.

Was raji not on feck all last year prove yourself deal as he had no market??

nasty_crash · 19-02-2015 10:31am

He signed a 4 mill 1 year deal last year - in a prove your worth deal

Im not sure as to why ppl dont think we can get both?? Like we have about 25mill cap space - not including the fact that hawk and jones will more than likely be released - that saves around 7 mill against the cap - Bulaga should get about 6 mill. Even if Cobb does want to go up to 10-11 mill there is still space there - and that doesnt include 4 mill space from Raji - and the Cut/Restructure of Peppers deal - which is 13mill against the cap!!

I would even resign Bulaga - and tag Cobb if necessary!! Cobb is vital to the way we play and has a great relationship with rodgers! I'd be very hesitant to let him go!!

raze_them_all_ · 19-02-2015 12:22pm

Because we still have to draft and pay players. Lacey has to be signed next year. As well as others. Packers we still havent really replaced finlay. Cobb is awesome. But ill take him for 7 a year. To tag him i believe would be 13 million

UnitedIrishman · 21-02-2015 12:06am

Brad Jones gone. Saving 3.5m in cap space.

cosatron · 25-02-2015 11:13pm

Hawk is gone now aswell. Looks like we're all in for inside line backer in the first round. Will McKinney still be there or will it be perryman. I like perryman but his a bit short but a good run stopper which we need badly.

UnitedIrishman · 26-02-2015 3:25pm

cosatron wrote: »

Hawk is gone now aswell. Looks like we're all in for inside line backer in the first round. Will McKinney still be there or will it be perryman. I like perryman but his a bit short but a good run stopper which we need badly.

All the best to him but happy with the move to be honest. Inside linebacker has been a serious problem area for us for a long time - if it wasn't run stoppage it was pass coverage and then the woeful woeful tackling. Need a clean break and build up that area in the draft because its one of the last pieces of the puzzle remaining to be back on top again.

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