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  • #252
    sephir0th
    Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭sephir0th


    Galvasean wrote: »
    What about sign language apes?

    Phew Koko got new kittens! You had me wasting loads of time on youtube - I got to a video of a dog and a crow playing with a ball...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1vV3Kf4WoA


  • #253
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    So far I've no problems with this, I do believe mountains exist and also I do believe that we evolve but through genetic variation. I just dont think it's possible and I havent seen the evidence to say we evolved from some sort of chimp

    There is plenty of evidence out there. For example, you can see in human genetic code where DNA fused in our ancestor but not in other apes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk


    There is plenty of other evidence that is out there to view and research to any level you are satisfied with. The question to you would be how interested are you in this research.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    if that was the case how come we're the only animals that speak. I know other animals do communicate but not through a language.

    I'm not sure how humans being the only species able to form complex language is evidence against common ancestry with other primates.

    It should also be pointed out that there is strong evidence to suggest that Neanderthal also had primitive language.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Perhaps ignorance but I call it just not being enough facts to believe in evolution.

    Again though you seem quite ignorant of what facts there are to support evolution. Would it not be prudent to not make up your mind (or defer to the scientists) until you have researched it more. Dismissing it off hand seems rather rash.
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Again I cant argue with really, I just have my opinions that there's a science cartel out there.

    Can I ask based on what evidence, and what motivation would there be to prop up an unsupported and inaccurate theory that both the scientists and businesses are pouring billions of dollars into but which is known to be wrong?
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    When I said I dont care too much for I meant I dont care enough to put hours of research into looking up evolution or even reading a book. The past is the past, intersting stuff but not vital for me to know what's it about as my life goes on lally dally regardless.

    That is fair enough, again there are plenty of things I don't care enough about to bother doing much research on (medeval folk dance for example). Again though I would consider it rash for me to decide something about medeval folk dancing that is contradictory to the consensus of the historians who do actually care about 12th century folk dancing, given how little I know about it and how much they do know about it.

    I certainly don't think anyone should blindly accept what they are told. But there is a difference between simply not knowing or caring about a subject to form a solid opinion on it and rejecting a subject despite not knowing or caring about a subject enough to form a solid opinion about it.


  • #254
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Woah, someone's getting defensive. It's not my intention to make you look foolish, you manage that perfectly without any outside interference.

    My reason for asking the question in the first place was because you say you don't trust scientists, but I see from your answer here that you are rather selective about which scientists you distrust. Let me guess, any scientist who offers an alternative to ''God did it'' are the ones that are conspiring together, yes?

    And one has to ask a question a second time when it is not answered the first.

    What you talkin bout Willis?

    Scratch that i don't care.

    I shall take a little break from this forum for atleast a week, too energy draining.


  • #255
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I shall take a little break from this forum for atleast a week, too energy draining.

    yeah, sticking your head in the sand for so long must get tiring


  • #256
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Galvasean wrote: »
    What about sign language apes?

    "Sign language apes" may not be as accurate a term as "Apes that have been taught some signs." Certainly, chimps and gorillas have, under instruction, learned to utilise signs to covey simple desires or feelings, but there has not been a majority consensus amongst linguists and cognitive scientists that the brief symbol strings displayed by the apes constitute a syntax, which is required for communication to qualify as full-blown language. "bad-frown-sad" is an expression of emotion but it is not a sentence.

    Interesting stuff all the same, and worthy of further research.


  • #257
    sonicthebadger*
    Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭sonicthebadger*


    sephir0th wrote: »
    Phew Koko got new kittens! You had me wasting loads of time on youtube - I got to a video of a dog and a crow playing with a ball...

    That dog and crow video is amazing! I want a pet crow now. My Granny actually used to have two but the idea of having pet crows lost some of its shine when one of them spotted her walking on the Main Street one day and came down to say hello. She needed to go home and get clean clothes. :pac:


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