what make of VDSL2 modem will work with VODAFONE fibre?

They wont be happy with that, the ISPs want people using their own gear to enable vectoring in the future.

Should have mentioned before, its also cheaper for them from a CS perspective.

Most of their customers dont care tbh. They're trying to outprice other ISPs who all have similar costs. If they can save on BB support calls by locking it down they will.

Thats a modem, not a modem/router "gateway". And you cant really compare the Irish market to the british one. In fact, BT here shipped pretty crappy routers before they sold out, to none other than vodafone who are keeping up the budget mantle.

bbpete wrote: »

Yes I am using the Asus as a standalone, this modem is vectoring enabled so it's not a problem. BTW The Asus is not a cheap piece of kit €150 from PC world but I believe you get what you pay for.

can you link that asus modem you are using here please?

ED E wrote: »

Huawei make the cabinets you connect to, but you can use any vectoring compliant unit. Eircom use Zyxel, Vodafone used to use Huawei but are moving to Zyxel too I've heard.

Draytek are a british crowd that make compatible high end units.

I think you heard incorrectly

crawler wrote: »

I think you heard incorrectly

actually he is right vodafone do now use rebranded eircom f1000 modems which are made by zyxel

crawler wrote: »

No they dont - VF use the Huawei HG658c

yes they do... they have been using f1000 modems for a bout 2 months now

AlanS181824 wrote: »

When my original modem failed to show up the replacement they gave was the very same.

Box had a different design though.

Weird.

How would you know this if the original modem didn't show up?

Bog Standard User wrote: »

yes they do... they have been using f1000 modems for a bout 2 months now

I must be mistaken You obviously have inside knowledge on this!!

Mr_D wrote: »

One recurring requirement is the need for the router to be "vectoring enabled". It seems that the corresponding standard is the ITU-T G.993.5. Interestingly I checked the documentation for VF's Huawei HG658c and this standard is not listed among those implemented (it mentions G.993.1, G.993.2, G.992.1, G992.3, G992.5, T1.413, but no G993.5). The router I was thinking of using to replace the Huawei is the TP-Link TD-W9980 - again, it implements a bunch of ITU-T standards but no mention of G.993.5. Would anyone know how to check if a router is "vectoring enabled" (beside checking for a mention of G.993.5), or if the TP-Link is know to work with VF's e-Fibre?

Thanks,
Mr_D

The HG658c is fully vectoring compliant (and tested) and many people here are using with with full vectored speeds.

If you use a non vectoring enabled modem on the network, there is a very high chance your port will be disconnected as you will introduce noise. The "problem" with vectorign is that all devices need to use vectoring - "aliens" on the network make the network sad

Unless you are 100% sure vectoring is enabled in both the hardware & software, dont waste your money.

Guys, my exchange is currently being upgraded to eFibre (in build phase). I am connected direct to it (no cabinet around or planned).

I have a spare VDSL2 modem (with vectoring) in the house.

Any idea if I will be able to just plug it in when the exchange gets finished or do I need Vodafone to do some hooky pokey on their side?

ED E wrote: »

You'll still need to be jumpered and most likely have a new NTU fitted. Order as normal and then swap your modem afterwards.

100% correct

AlanS181824 wrote: »

So is it now possible to use your own Vectoring enabled router standalone?

I'm happy with my Vodafone router but I would much prefer my own.

Yep, just gotta be VDSL2 with vectoring and you're good to go. Gotta configure a few bits but its only slightly more complex than ADSL.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/wifi-routers/368968/draytek-vigor-2830n

Thats what you want, but she aint cheap.

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Good to know, cheers Ed.

I think I'm going to just keep it the way it is.

Provided you know what you're doing & the modem does not cause interference on the network (Vectoring etc) then you can use your own device...

Vodafone and others though automatically keep firmware etc updated on the device (which usually fixes bugs and security issues if they are ever found) though and also add new services from time to time - you mis sout on this using your own device, plus any support or troubleshooting is also lost.

I guess it comes down to what you are happy with and how techie you are!!

Whats the position with customer support if you use a 3rd party and need troubleshooting assistance from VF? Will they insist that you connect up the original router before they will help?

^^^^
Not sure you get my point. If you are using a 3rd party router and you are having a problem with internet access which you suspect to be on VF's side, when you ring the CS robots they will be working from a script which assumes you are using THEIR router. If you mention you are using a non VF router, will they throw their hands in the air and insist you reconnect the original router for them to move the investigation further? This happens with Sky btw.

mad muffin wrote: »

What's the spec of the Vodafone fibre modem? Is it at least N capable?

Its wireless n but uses internal antennae and is single band only. Gigabit ports though.

I have mine setup in bridge mode since day 1. Initially I was using a basic tp-link router which had better coverage in my house but I recently replaced it with a netgear r7000 and the difference is like night and day; even though none of my gear is wireless ac I am getting good improvements over 2.4ghz band and amazing results with 5ghz. It also helps that none of my neighbors are operating at 5ghz.

I'd be somewhat wary of using a third party modem in case there was a fault on my line or if eircom wholesale applied some unusual vdsl upgrade that required specific firmware for modems.