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  • #52
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    we'llallhavetea wrote: »
    i never said i was a better driver than anyone, i said i can drive and talk on the bloody phone fine.

    i can't parallel park to save my life.

    can i just reiterate, that i do not think that i'm always capable of doing both and when that situation arises, i drop the phone.

    You are ignoring the fact that all studies indicate that driving when using a phone is worse than driving over the limit for alcohol. Your reaction times are worse. You say that you drop the phone if the situation arises, but let's say for example, you're on the motorway & a car swerves out in front of you, or you're in slow moving traffic & an idiot pedestrian runs out in front of you just as you're about to pull off.... you'd have a better chance of reacting to the situation, of not being involved in an accident, of not physically damaging yourself or anybody else, and of not killing or being killed, than you would if you were over the legal alcohol limit....

    So my only question is - is that worth it to have a natter on the phone? Is it? No. And if you think it is, do you really think that your phone conversation is soooooo much more important than the safety of other road users around you? Could you really be that self important?


  • #53
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    we'llallhavetea wrote: »
    i never said i was a better driver than anyone, i said i can drive and talk on the bloody phone fine.
    You said you said your driving abilities aren't affected when talking on the phone though others' might be. I don't believe you; I think you're overestimating your abilities. Try playing a game of Whack-A-Mole while yakking away with your phone to your ear and see how you get on.


  • #54
    we'llallhavetea_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    This TBH. No offense but it's a well dodgy tactic.
    Stuck in a stream of unending traffic chattering on a phone whilst slowly edging forward, not so much of an issue. Intricate inner city driving, much bigger problems. Just get yourself a hands free. They cost feck all and are legal. It's that simple. That way you have both hands to indicate and change gear, properly work the steering wheel. It's not rocket science that you can see that it's going to have a negative result on your ability to drive.

    i know what you're saying. as i said, i know my limits, i would never even touch the phone / radio / windows if i'm driving in the city centre, christ, i barely breath.
    starbelgrade wrote: »
    You are ignoring the fact that all studies indicate that driving when using a phone is worse than driving over the limit for alcohol. Your reaction times are worse. You say that you drop the phone if the situation arises, but let's say for example, you're on the motorway & a car swerves out in front of you, or you're in slow moving traffic & an idiot pedestrian runs out in front of you just as you're about to pull off.... you'd have a better chance of reacting to the situation, of not being involved in an accident, of not physically damaging yourself or anybody else, and of not killing or being killed, than you would if you were over the legal alcohol limit....

    i'm not ignoring anything.

    i'm don't drive and use the phone in areas like that, i know not to.
    So my only question is - is that worth it to have a natter on the phone? Is it? No. And if you think it is, do you really think that your phone conversation is soooooo much more important than the safety of other road users around you? Could you really be that self important?
    you people think i'm driving around like a psychopath on the phone, i'm not.

    if my phone rings in the car and i'm in a situation where i am able to answer it and talk, i will. i'm driving down the same, straight, quiet roads all the time, i am not going to be shocked at an unexpected curve in the road, and i can see way ahead of me. if i can't, i won't be on the phone.
    Pace2008 wrote: »
    You said you said your driving abilities aren't affected when talking on the phone though others' might be. I don't believe you; I think you're overestimating your abilities. Try playing a game of Whack-A-Mole while yakking away with your phone to your ear and see how you get on.

    i have no idea what whack-a-mole is :p

    what i am saying is that i have the common sense to know when i can talk on the phone or not. maybe others don't have that. that's all.


  • #55
    saltandpepper10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭saltandpepper10


    whats the gardai policy on answering there own mobiles walkie talkies etc when driving or are there reaction times much quicker than general drivers.10 plus garda vehicle crashes per week wouldnt suggest so


  • #56
    SugarHigh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    I don't think we'llallhavetea deserves such a hard time but the big flaw in your argument is saying that you know your limits on when to use a phone. The problem is that everyone who was ever in an accident caused by talking on a phone obviously thought the same thing. This is also true for speeding, people like to set their own limits and as has already been said they often overestimate themselves but I don't believe that the people on their high horse don't also do this from time to time.


  • #57
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    We'llallhavetea - you are using the exact same excuses for using a phone when you drive as those who choose to drive home from the pub.. "I know my limits", "I know when it's safe", "ah shure I only do it on backroads".

    The simple fact is that there is no excuse just as there is no safe time to use a phone whilst driving. If you think otherwise, you are deluded.

    The fact that it's you - a poster who I like a lot from your posts on AH - and not some randomer, actually surprised me a lot. I would have thought you would have more sense than to do something that all the facts & statistics prove to be even more dangerous than drink driving.

    My only hope is that you read up on the statistics & reports and reconsider your behaviour on the roads. There is absolutely no reason for using a phone whilst driving. Either pull over & take the call, or let it go to voicemail & call them back. I would hate to think that you would only learn this lesson after you have blood on your hands.


  • #58
    we'llallhavetea_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    a poster who I like a lot from your posts on AH

    *blushes*

    sorry wha? :pac:

    i'm not gonna fall out with you over it and i hope you can say the same. i'm sure there's things you do that i wouldn't agree with or like.


  • #59
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I don't think we'llallhavetea deserves such a hard time but the big flaw in your argument is saying that you know your limits on when to use a phone. The problem is that everyone who was ever in an accident caused by talking on a phone obviously thought the same thing. This is also true for speeding, people like to set their own limits and as has already been said they often overestimate themselves but I don't believe that the people on their high horse don't also do this from time to time.

    You have a point. Part of the reason I speak so strongly on the subject of dangerous driving is that I know from experience that the "I know my limits" argument is really complete & utter boll*x.

    I used to regularly drive home from the pub, thinking the same thing - sure it was only a short run up a back road, never anybody on it & I'd only have a had a few drinks. Then one night I ran over something as I went around a bend. Hadn't a clue what it was - it could have been an animal, it could have been a child for all I know - but I never saw what it was until I'd run over it.

    It turned out to be a traffic cone. Thank f*ck for that. But it taught me a lesson - if you think you're OK to drive without having all your wits about you - be that through drink, drugs or using a phone, then you are taking your life & even worse - the life of others into your own hands.

    You never know what's round the bend & you never know your limits and to think otherwise, is not only foolish, but idiotic & arrogant.


  • #60
    SugarHigh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    We'llallhavetea - you are using the exact same excuses for using a phone when you drive as those who choose to drive home from the pub.. "I know my limits", "I know when it's safe", "ah shure I only do it on backroads".
    Have you ever gone over the speed limit on an empty road?

    Did you use the excuses that "I know my limits", "I know when it's safe" by any chance?

    Everyone takes slight risks on the road that they decide are so low risk their worth it.


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  • #61
    donkey balls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    i use a nokia ear piece that came with my phone when the phone rings i press the button and talk away while some time having a 45ft trailer on tow:D.
    also my phone with the headset is voice activated even text messages can be read out while im driving its the dogs b*ll*x.


  • #62
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    donkey balls wrote: »
    i use a nokia ear piece that came with my phone when the phone rings i press the button and talk away while some time having a 45ft trailer on tow:D.
    also my phone with the headset is voice activated even text messages can be read out while im driving its the dogs b*ll*x.

    Cool! What voice is it in - sexy bird or Stephen Hawkins?!


  • #63
    Gunsfortoys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    gurramok wrote: »
    Men cannot drive alone, they need a woman passenger to help them 'slow' down on the roads, get the message boys, not the points :)

    I heard that the RSA are banning wives being passengers in their husbands cars, something about the blokes eventually jumping out of the moving car...


  • #64
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    prinz wrote: »
    Are you pscyhic or do your eyes leave the road and go to your phone to see if it's important or not?

    Are you serious? My phone is beside my radio so if it rings I can have a quick glance at it, the very same way I can glance at the radio.

    You didn't really think that question through did you.


  • #65
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Are you serious? My phone is beside my radio so if it rings I can have a quick glance at it, the very same way I can glance at the radio. You didn't really think that question through did you.

    :confused: Why did I not think that through? Must people don't glance at the radio when it rings, if your phone rings it's far more likely that would prompt an immediate automatic reflex action to take your eyes off the road, as opposed to wanting to change the radio station etc. One of the reasons car manufacturers started putting radio controls on the steering wheels, precisely so your attention wouldn't be drawn away from the road to change station etc. Having your phone there and looking at it when it rings is presents essentially the same danger.

    Perhaps you missed this..
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65951721&postcount=43


  • #66
    JimmyCrackCorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn


    moonpurple wrote: »
    on the radio the road safety authority are telling us to

    'switch off before you drive off'

    did a transition year student write this ad....do they think we would turn off our mobile phones during car journeys

    cop on rsa


    Fix the driving test and enforce the law. Puns and stupid campaigns are an easy way to look like your doing something when your not.


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  • #67
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    prinz wrote: »
    :confused: Why did I not think that through? Must people don't glance at the radio when it rings, if your phone rings it's far more likely that would prompt an immediate automatic reflex action to take your eyes off the road, as opposed to wanting to change the radio station etc. One of the reasons car manufacturers started putting radio controls on the steering wheels, precisely so your attention wouldn't be drawn away from the road to change station etc. Having your phone there and looking at it when it rings is presents essentially the same danger.

    Perhaps you missed this..
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65951721&postcount=43

    Oh my Christ. Driving on road and keeping a safe distance from the car in front of you. I wonder who it is that is calling me? "CRASH"?

    You are bordering on ridiculous.

    I hope that you drive alone, have ripped out your radio and left your phone at home. Otherwise you are a hypocrite.

    Those crashing because they take their eyes off the road for half a second are tailgating.


  • #68
    bad2dabone
    Registered Users Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    Hi We'llallhavetea, again you're a poster who I like and usually agree with your posts but you're in the wrong here, talking on a handheld mobile phone is for mugs. Handsfree bluetooth kits are very affordable. I hope you pick one up.


  • #69
    WindSock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Everytime I see a fcktard swerving around the corner on the other side of the road I look to see who was the usual suspect of culprits this time, A soccer ma or a silver fox. It is usually either one or a prick on a phone. Or either one of those pricks on a phone.


  • #70
    Kimono-Girl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    prinz wrote: »
    :confused: if your phone rings it's far more likely that would prompt an immediate automatic reflex action to take your eyes off the road, as opposed to wanting to change the radio station etc.

    first i drive a 06 yaris so i have no radio controls on my steering wheel,

    second, if westlife or U2 comes on the radio(it happens more often then i like to be honest) it would prompt an immediate automatic reflex action to take my eyes off the road and change the damn station quick! ;)


  • #71
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    prinz wrote: »
    Most people don't glance at the radio when it rings,]

    I'd be more than just glancing at the radio if it started to ring...


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  • #72
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Personally, I have no problem with driving and talking on a phone, but some people do and I see that on the road every day. Some people cannot operate a phone and operate a vehicle, for this reason the RSA are in the right with this campaign. At least it's not sexist. :P


  • #73
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Oh my Christ. Driving on road and keeping a safe distance from the car in front of you. I wonder who it is that is calling me? "CRASH"?Those crashing because they take their eyes off the road for half a second are tailgating.

    You do realise there are plenty of other types of accidents besides driving straight into the back of someone?
    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    You are bordering on ridiculous..

    :pac: I am not the one freaking out about the RSA giving safe driving advice. Christ on a bicycle. They are not banning phones in cars or ordering everyone to switch them off, but they have a valid point.


  • #74
    bad2dabone
    Registered Users Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    these are 3 quick and simple ads from australia (not gruesome)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VH8ae6ux0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYUabxaW1d8&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqYgxD6giwc&feature=related

    and those situations could so easily happen, if one is too arrogant to think that
    they don't apply to them they probably won't have an effect but to be honest
    I nailed the back of a garda car (I know, haha) a few years back because I was checking the data on a heart rate monitor while driving. Just lucky no one was hurt.


  • #75
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    I'd be more than just glancing at the radio if it started to ring...
    I just called to say I love you
    I just called to say how much I care
    I just called to say I love you
    And I mean it from the bottom of my heart


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