Scrap Rent Allowance

Joko · 12-03-2012 10:55pm #1

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

In 2011 the Government paid €500m in rent to landlords for 94,000 social welfare tenants living in private apartments and houses.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0116/rent.html

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

super_furry · 12-03-2012 10:57pm

Ok. Anything else?

dirtyden · 12-03-2012 10:57pm

Joko wrote: »

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

Yawn

MungBean · 12-03-2012 10:58pm

If only we had thousands upon thousands of empty homes on the states books that we could put to good use.

Oh well, yeah cut rent allowance. People can sleep on the streets, gonna be mild enough from now on anyway.

admiralofthefleet · 12-03-2012 10:59pm

Joko wrote: »

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

go write another book mr o carroll kelly

Fromthetrees · 12-03-2012 11:00pm

Joko wrote: »

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

So people who are out of work should be made homeless?

super_furry · 12-03-2012 11:00pm

Indeed. Ship everyone currently out of work to Leitrim, Cavan, Carlow and wherever else these empty houses are.

micropig · 12-03-2012 11:02pm

super_furry wrote: »

Indeed. Ship everyone currently out of work to Leitrim, Cavan, Carlow and wherever else these empty houses are.

Why not just ship them the whole way to australia or canada, job done:D

TreesAreCrowd · 12-03-2012 11:03pm

There are people who genuinely need it, and there are leeches who gamed the system for a long time now who should be dealt with. It isn't fair to deal with the latter in a manner that destroys the lives of the former.

Ergo, it is the long term welfare recipients who need to be dealt with as a broader group, not a targeted attack on a specific form of welfare.

super_furry · 12-03-2012 11:04pm

Doesn't go far enough. Shoot em I say.

Dubit10 · 12-03-2012 11:05pm

Joko wrote: »

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

You do know not everyone on rent allowance wears PJ's right?

fedor.2. · 12-03-2012 11:05pm

Joko wrote: »

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

Shut up

M cebee · 12-03-2012 11:06pm

lets have a fight

taxpayers versus dole scroungers

micropig · 12-03-2012 11:07pm

M cebee wrote: »

lets have a fight

taxpayers versus dole scroungers

Round 999298017869187697691916:D

starviewadams · 12-03-2012 11:09pm

Okay fine,it's been scrapped,now go away.

Signed,

Everyone.

K-9 · 12-03-2012 11:09pm

Joko wrote: »

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

So a system designed to help people with no job should be scrapped because you are on low wages?

Rent Allowance does get abused but the majority of people need it. It is also a big player in forcing rents down when it gets cut, which it has again. Bet you'll see a drop in rents as landlords have to adjust for the drop, so its all good, even for you.

MungBean · 12-03-2012 11:13pm

I'd like to know why the OP is too lazy to go out and get a better paying job.

micropig · 12-03-2012 11:15pm

MungBean wrote: »

I'd like to know why the OP is too lazy to go out and get a better paying job.

Or not lazy enough to quit their job to get the rent allowence;)

OP, there's loads of options:D

regress · 12-03-2012 11:16pm

For gods sake man. Will you not think of the landlords. They deserve our help.

witnessmenow · 12-03-2012 11:17pm

In fairness if the ops figures are correct that's roughly €450 a month per person. Seems reasonably high.

What really needs to happen is to stop forcing people to take the piss.

A person without a job will get no money if living at home (well means tested), but gets the dole and rent allowance if they moves out. Why not give them some money while at home so they dont have to move out!? And also while im here ranting... for the love of god change it to be hours worked welfare , not days! My girlfriend got a job working a 12 hour contract in a shop, 3 x 4hour days.. was on less than when she started, and she had to pay to go to work (had to buy clothes from that shop too) Great incentive to work

uberalles · 12-03-2012 11:18pm

Lots of other countries give you help for a few months then 0. It's a good incentive to get a job and become independent or Fcuk off somewhere else. I'm particularly talking about whole families who have never worked even during the boom.

This cradle to grave welfare wonderland is a joke.

risteard7 · 12-03-2012 11:21pm

Joko wrote: »

Rent allowance should be scrapped. It is keeping rents at a ridiculously high level and is hurting those on low wages like myself who are actually trying to contribute to this country. Rents in Dublin are still a fortune and it is because this handout scheme has created a floor in the market.

500,000,000euro/94,000 = €5,319

I focking hate this government handout society we have become.

Why on earth would pyjama girl take a minimum wage job when she gets €9,776 on the dole and free accommodation.

How dare you suggest that about people who never worked a day
in their lives! What about single mothers, think of the children! :rolleyes:

Their the likely replys on this op but i aggree with you

starbelgrade · 12-03-2012 11:22pm

State funded rental schemes account for over 50% of the entire rental market at a cost of around €650 million a year.

You can't make people homeless by not paying it, but you can certainly get better value for money. It's yet another area where our government fail to try & gain some benefit from economies of scale. Instead of using the massive buying power that €650 million gets you, the rental schemes actually drive the costs of rentals up across the board.

And yet, there's not even simple checks to ensure that all landlords who receive rent supplements from the government are tax compliant.

It would make a hell of a lot of sense for the government to move people away from rent supplements over to a more sustainable method of providing rental accommodation.

micropig · 12-03-2012 11:25pm

risteard7 wrote: »

How dare you suggest that about people who never worked a day
in their lives! What about single mothers, think of the children! :rolleyes:

Scroungers the lot of them especially the children!:p:D

TreesAreCrowd · 12-03-2012 11:31pm

I will agree on one thing though, rent allowance is keeping the rent levels in the country artificially high.

The cost of living has remained ridiculously high here as a result of these measures.

starbelgrade · 12-03-2012 11:32pm

witnessmenow wrote: »

for the love of god change it to be hours worked welfare , not days! My girlfriend got a job working a 12 hour contract in a shop, 3 x 4hour days.. was on less than when she started, and she had to pay to go to work (had to buy clothes from that shop too) Great incentive to work

It's a sad fact that the biggest competitor in both the rental & lesser paid employment markets is, in fact, the government.

micropig · 12-03-2012 11:35pm

starbelgrade wrote: »

It's a sad fact that the biggest competitor in both the rental & lesser paid employment markets is, in fact, the government.

Do you mean those on Social Welfare?

Smidge · 12-03-2012 11:35pm

OP I dont think it quite works that way. If you are in an area of the country that you are allowed to rent a property of up to 430 euros per month you are allowed roughly about 280 towards that. You must make up the difference yourself. So for a person on 188 per week it leaves them with about 150 per week to pay for everything else

Owen_S · 12-03-2012 11:38pm

Stop working
Acquire Rent Allowance
????
Profit

micropig · 12-03-2012 11:39pm

Owen_S wrote: »

Stop working
Acquire Rent Allowance
Sell free communion dresses
Profit

Deank · 12-03-2012 11:43pm

Owen_S wrote: »

Stop working
Acquire Rent Allowance
????
Profit

Then sublet for more profit - simples.;)

Scrap Rent Allowance

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