Pokémon Alpha Sapphire & Omega Ruby - Spoilers inside

gnfnrhead · 10-09-2014 7:27pm

Please let that be the end of them. The more their are, the less special they become.

raze_them_all_ · 11-09-2014 12:29am

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Please let that be the end of them. The more their are, the less special they become.

as soon as audino got e
one everyone is getting one

gnfnrhead · 11-09-2014 2:49pm

By my count, there are now 41 Mega's. That's one for every 18 (rounded up) Pokémon. As well as being one for every 9 that fit the mega criteria.

One out of nine now has a mega form.

Angron · 11-09-2014 3:35pm

There is getting to be a few too many, but it's mainly just the ones I see as being needless that are really bugging me, namely Audino and Lopunny.

beaner09 · 11-09-2014 4:15pm

I think I mentioned this here before, Audino and Lopunny would have been given Megas because research showed that girls/young girls like them. Not everything has to centre around what has the best stats or what a particular group of people (competitive battlers) like. These games are still targeted at kids so Game Freak have to cater for ALL of that market!

By the way, I'm not defending mega evolutions. I think the fact they only had like 60 new Pokémon in X/Y shows that, after Gen 5 Pokés took a bit of a bashing from people, they decided to rehash old Pokémon rather than risk making new ones. The remakes also made this an option, as they would have wanted it to have more new features instead of it just being a graphical update!

gnfnrhead · 11-09-2014 4:39pm

beaner09 wrote: »

I think I mentioned this here before, Audino and Lopunny would have been given Megas because research showed that girls/young girls like them. Not everything has to centre around what has the best stats or what a particular group of people (competitive battlers) like. These games are still targeted at kids so Game Freak have to cater for ALL of that market!

By the way, I'm not defending mega evolutions. I think the fact they only had like 60 new Pokémon in X/Y shows that, after Gen 5 Pokés took a bit of a bashing from people, they decided to rehash old Pokémon rather than risk making new ones. The remakes also made this an option, as they would have wanted it to have more new features instead of it just being a graphical update!

The design of some Gen 5 Pokémon were dreadful, but they also had some very good ones. I don't recall many complaints about Gen 6, in fact it was the opposite. Complaints that they didn't make enough new Pokémon.

If they want to cater to all potential fans, give real evolutions instead. Mega's should have been reserved for the staters, legendaries and one or two others like Sableye (an actual evolution for it would just see everyone give Sableye an Eviolite and it'll be overpowered) instead of handing them out to everyone and anyone.

Hopefully the following game sees a return to actual evolution. The majority don't seem pushed on Mega's.

beaner09 · 11-09-2014 10:53pm

I think the general view was that Gen 5 had a lot more bad ones than normal. I think everyone found the vast majority of Gen 6 Pokémon to serve a purpose, and yeah there wasn't a lot of them, but they obviously chose quality over quantity to avoid a problem like Gen 5.

If they only gave Megas to a few Pokémon things would get unbalanced, by starting doing them they can't go back on it and have to give more and more Pokés Megas, which is resulting in what we see now!

As much as I'm looking forward to ORAS, I can't wait until the next set of games so we can get back to new Pokés or normal evolutions!

shruikan2553 · 11-09-2014 11:10pm

I liked the lack of new Pokemon. Of course I want some new but I hated when they tried to make it all new pokemon until you beet the elite 4. Oh look, another bird pokemon that evolves twice. With XY you had all your favourites and lots of choice.

Angron · 02-10-2014 4:13pm

New Mega.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQg3lSvWc4

Atavan-Halen · 02-10-2014 4:19pm

Some video of it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQg3lSvWc4

It's new move looks nice, but again, I wish they'd stop with all these megas

gnfnrhead · 03-10-2014 1:41pm

Mega's can fuck off at this stage. Far too many.

A Neurotic · 03-10-2014 4:06pm

Atavan-Halen wrote: »

It's new move looks nice, but again, I wish they'd stop with all these megas

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Mega's can fuck off at this stage. Far too many.

Surely Mega Rayquaza was a given?

I'm loving the Mega thing. A fun new dimension to battling. The more the better I say.

raze_them_all_ · 03-10-2014 4:23pm

ugh i dont like it!! loads of pokemon dont even have an evo line and others are getting megas. only legends should have megas imo

Angron · 03-10-2014 9:09pm

Yeah, Mega Rayquaza was a given really, and I have no problem with megas within reason. I don't like it when it feels like they are giving things megas for the sake of giving them megas though *cough*Audino*cough*

raze_them_all_ · 03-10-2014 9:22pm

Angron wrote: »

Yeah, Mega Rayquaza was a given really, and I have no problem with megas within reason. I don't like it when it feels like they are giving things megas for the sake of giving them megas though *cough*Audino*cough*

bunneary etc

westernfrenzy · 03-10-2014 9:59pm

I don't mind the Mega Evo's. I just don't use them. Although Mega Charizard X is pretty cool.

Angron · 03-10-2014 11:35pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

bunneary etc

True, I just think Audino is the worst of the lot.

Mr.Saturn · 04-10-2014 4:41pm

Would agree with the 'too many Megas' thing. Seems like a quickly bloated means of getting around an already bloated Pokedex.

raze_them_all_ · 10-10-2014 11:18am

ugh pidgeoto and beedrill now too

Angron · 10-10-2014 11:24am

Well those are unnecessary.

Atavan-Halen · 10-10-2014 1:17pm

I think they should reserve the megas for a select few like legendaries and the likes or just go the whole hog and give a mega to every fully evolved pokemon already. It's just a bit Random with the megas they're allocating.

Angron · 10-10-2014 2:19pm

Seeing as Beedrill gets one, I have to assume we'll be seeing Mega Butterfree somewhere down the line too. It does seem to be (gradually) going the way of everything getting one eventually though.

ERG89 · 10-10-2014 3:26pm

This is before the starters assumingly get one too. I think Blaziken already has one.
Apparently you can have wild encounters in the sky while flying too(although it hasn't been fully explained yet). Cue Zubat joke

Angron · 10-10-2014 3:58pm

Well the Hoenn starters have all got one, Blaziken was in XY, the other two were announced months ago.

Angron · 11-10-2014 6:26pm

Actually, thinking about it, No Guard seems like a really strange ability for Pidgeot. It doesn't really learn many low accuracy moves, Hurricane at 70% is the lowest with everything else being 90, 95, or 100.

Not G.R · 12-10-2014 9:46am

Angron wrote: »

Actually, thinking about it, No Guard seems like a really strange ability for Pidgeot. It doesn't really learn many low accuracy moves, Hurricane at 70% is the lowest with everything else being 90, 95, or 100.

100% accurate Stone edges, Rock slides, Blizzards and Thunders coupled with it's garbage speed (even with a 30 point buff it will be out sped by common threats) will make this poke competitively useless.

Angron · 12-10-2014 6:13pm

Well a 30 boost wouldn't be too bad, it'd bring it up to 131 base speed which outspeeds a fair bit. Even so, the drawbacks for Pidgeot really heavily outweigh any benefits in my eyes.

raze_them_all_ · 14-10-2014 4:58pm

stelix and galade now. yawn

Angron · 14-10-2014 9:16pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFvxSvPIw5c

shruikan2553 · 14-10-2014 9:39pm

Angron wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFvxSvPIw5c

The flying looks cool assuming that you can fly and land anywhere.

Colham · 15-10-2014 8:19am

Anyone get their demo codes yet? Any spares?

Banjo · 15-10-2014 11:31am

you can register for a lottery here :
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/10/download_pokemon_omega_ruby_and_alpha_sapphire_special_demo_version

You'll need to use a VPN to spoof a UK address if you're not in the UK
If you've ever had any success creating a fake nintendoZone for streetpassing, you could try SSID NintendoSpotPass5 and password Pokemon01 to see if you can get a GAME one.

Colham · 19-10-2014 6:56am

Demo code for ye: A05RKJTY074WJLCV

Not G.R · 19-10-2014 8:57am

Colham wrote: »

Demo code for ye: A05RKJTY074WJLCV

Thank you!

SureYWouldntYa · 19-11-2014 9:40pm

So where are people pre ordering this ? Amazon works out at just under €40, anyone see any better deals around

Angron · 19-11-2014 9:43pm

It's actually being bought for me for my birthday, so I dunno where it's actually being gotten.

cloud493 · 19-11-2014 9:46pm

Argos will have it 43, symths for 45, for those like me who want to enjoy buying it in a shop.

RoboAmish · 20-11-2014 12:44pm

Kinda torn on this one. Hoenn was always my least favourite region (until Kalos!) and I don't have the nostalgia for this that I do for the first two generations. I remember enjoying the game but it never left a huge impression on me.

And yet, I still sort of want it. Gotta get that Pokemon fix. And I'll probably end up sinking 50+ hours into it.

Maybe I should just restart the original... I still have my copy of Ruby on my shelf.

Banjo · 20-11-2014 1:19pm

You can order it on Rakuten for £34ish with delivery, + there are codes floating around (eg GIFTS10 should give a tenner off) but I'm not actually buying it so I can't confirm they'll process the order

Atavan-Halen · 20-11-2014 2:49pm

Heading to the pokemon center in the morning to pick up a copy and one of the new 3DS's. Well hopefully, I've no preorder but we'll see what happens.

gnfnrhead · 20-11-2014 6:36pm

The hype for this has really gone off a cliff lately. Completely forgot it was out so soon.

cloud493 · 20-11-2014 6:55pm

****s sake. I'm in new york on the 26th - 31st, have to wait for the 1st to get it :mad:

raze_them_all_ · 20-11-2014 10:55pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

The hype for this has really gone off a cliff lately. Completely forgot it was out so soon.

it's because everyone is sick of mega evos

cloud493 · 20-11-2014 10:57pm

Mega spoilers about the games from the leaks now the game is out, so I'll spoiler it

So ORAS are set in a different universe than the original RS. And in fact, the delta episode is about you saving the original Hoenn from RS. And its heavily implied that in regards to the two timelines, the original timeline doesn't have mega pokemon. So could be a way to revert back if people didn't like megas?

Angron · 21-11-2014 12:08am

cloud493 wrote: »

****s sake. I'm in new york on the 26th - 31st, have to wait for the 1st to get it :mad:

I have an assessment in college on the 28th, so I dunno if I'll be able to go home to get my copy of it. Bit annoying having late assessments on Fridays.

cloud493 · 21-11-2014 12:31am

That sucks

I could download it of course, but I only go digital only if theres no other option.

gnfnrhead · 21-11-2014 10:11am

I go digital because I'm too lazy to go to the shop :pac:

Much handier having everything in the one place too.

Atavan-Halen · 21-11-2014 11:13am

Didn't get the 3DS as it was preorder only but happy to get the games and shook hands with Masuda :P

cloud493 · 21-11-2014 11:49am

Lucky man

I'm trying to think of any possible way to get it early, but I got nothing. Even connecting to the US e-shop won't work, apparently.

shruikan2553 · 21-11-2014 3:17pm

Been playing world of warcraft and study week starts when pokemon comes out. Doubt I'll be looking at it until christmas anyway. Would just download it from eshop but it tends to be a decent bit more.

Pokémon Alpha Sapphire & Omega Ruby - Spoilers inside

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