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Pokémon Alpha Sapphire & Omega Ruby - Spoilers inside

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Please let that be the end of them. The more their are, the less special they become.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Please let that be the end of them. The more their are, the less special they become.

    as soon as audino got e
    one everyone is getting one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    By my count, there are now 41 Mega's. That's one for every 18 (rounded up) Pokémon. As well as being one for every 9 that fit the mega criteria.

    One out of nine now has a mega form.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    There is getting to be a few too many, but it's mainly just the ones I see as being needless that are really bugging me, namely Audino and Lopunny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭beaner09


    I think I mentioned this here before, Audino and Lopunny would have been given Megas because research showed that girls/young girls like them. Not everything has to centre around what has the best stats or what a particular group of people (competitive battlers) like. These games are still targeted at kids so Game Freak have to cater for ALL of that market!

    By the way, I'm not defending mega evolutions. I think the fact they only had like 60 new Pokémon in X/Y shows that, after Gen 5 Pokés took a bit of a bashing from people, they decided to rehash old Pokémon rather than risk making new ones. The remakes also made this an option, as they would have wanted it to have more new features instead of it just being a graphical update!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    beaner09 wrote: »
    I think I mentioned this here before, Audino and Lopunny would have been given Megas because research showed that girls/young girls like them. Not everything has to centre around what has the best stats or what a particular group of people (competitive battlers) like. These games are still targeted at kids so Game Freak have to cater for ALL of that market!

    By the way, I'm not defending mega evolutions. I think the fact they only had like 60 new Pokémon in X/Y shows that, after Gen 5 Pokés took a bit of a bashing from people, they decided to rehash old Pokémon rather than risk making new ones. The remakes also made this an option, as they would have wanted it to have more new features instead of it just being a graphical update!

    The design of some Gen 5 Pokémon were dreadful, but they also had some very good ones. I don't recall many complaints about Gen 6, in fact it was the opposite. Complaints that they didn't make enough new Pokémon.

    If they want to cater to all potential fans, give real evolutions instead. Mega's should have been reserved for the staters, legendaries and one or two others like Sableye (an actual evolution for it would just see everyone give Sableye an Eviolite and it'll be overpowered) instead of handing them out to everyone and anyone.

    Hopefully the following game sees a return to actual evolution. The majority don't seem pushed on Mega's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭beaner09


    I think the general view was that Gen 5 had a lot more bad ones than normal. I think everyone found the vast majority of Gen 6 Pokémon to serve a purpose, and yeah there wasn't a lot of them, but they obviously chose quality over quantity to avoid a problem like Gen 5.

    If they only gave Megas to a few Pokémon things would get unbalanced, by starting doing them they can't go back on it and have to give more and more Pokés Megas, which is resulting in what we see now!

    As much as I'm looking forward to ORAS, I can't wait until the next set of games so we can get back to new Pokés or normal evolutions!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    I liked the lack of new Pokemon. Of course I want some new but I hated when they tried to make it all new pokemon until you beet the elite 4. Oh look, another bird pokemon that evolves twice. With XY you had all your favourites and lots of choice.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    Some video of it here



    It's new move looks nice, but again, I wish they'd stop with all these megas :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Mega's can fuck off at this stage. Far too many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic



    It's new move looks nice, but again, I wish they'd stop with all these megas :(
    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Mega's can fuck off at this stage. Far too many.

    Surely Mega Rayquaza was a given?

    I'm loving the Mega thing. A fun new dimension to battling. The more the better I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    ugh i dont like it!! loads of pokemon dont even have an evo line and others are getting megas. only legends should have megas imo


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Yeah, Mega Rayquaza was a given really, and I have no problem with megas within reason. I don't like it when it feels like they are giving things megas for the sake of giving them megas though *cough*Audino*cough*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Angron wrote: »
    Yeah, Mega Rayquaza was a given really, and I have no problem with megas within reason. I don't like it when it feels like they are giving things megas for the sake of giving them megas though *cough*Audino*cough*

    bunneary etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭westernfrenzy


    I don't mind the Mega Evo's. I just don't use them. Although Mega Charizard X is pretty cool.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    bunneary etc

    True, I just think Audino is the worst of the lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Would agree with the 'too many Megas' thing. Seems like a quickly bloated means of getting around an already bloated Pokedex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    ugh pidgeoto and beedrill now too


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Well those are unnecessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    I think they should reserve the megas for a select few like legendaries and the likes or just go the whole hog and give a mega to every fully evolved pokemon already. It's just a bit Random with the megas they're allocating.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Seeing as Beedrill gets one, I have to assume we'll be seeing Mega Butterfree somewhere down the line too. It does seem to be (gradually) going the way of everything getting one eventually though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    This is before the starters assumingly get one too. I think Blaziken already has one.
    Apparently you can have wild encounters in the sky while flying too(although it hasn't been fully explained yet). Cue Zubat joke


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Well the Hoenn starters have all got one, Blaziken was in XY, the other two were announced months ago.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Actually, thinking about it, No Guard seems like a really strange ability for Pidgeot. It doesn't really learn many low accuracy moves, Hurricane at 70% is the lowest with everything else being 90, 95, or 100.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not G.R


    Angron wrote: »
    Actually, thinking about it, No Guard seems like a really strange ability for Pidgeot. It doesn't really learn many low accuracy moves, Hurricane at 70% is the lowest with everything else being 90, 95, or 100.

    100% accurate Stone edges, Rock slides, Blizzards and Thunders coupled with it's garbage speed (even with a 30 point buff it will be out sped by common threats) will make this poke competitively useless.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Well a 30 boost wouldn't be too bad, it'd bring it up to 131 base speed which outspeeds a fair bit. Even so, the drawbacks for Pidgeot really heavily outweigh any benefits in my eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    stelix and galade now. yawn


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Angron wrote: »

    The flying looks cool assuming that you can fly and land anywhere.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭Colham


    Anyone get their demo codes yet? Any spares?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    you can register for a lottery here :
    http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/10/download_pokemon_omega_ruby_and_alpha_sapphire_special_demo_version

    You'll need to use a VPN to spoof a UK address if you're not in the UK
    If you've ever had any success creating a fake nintendoZone for streetpassing, you could try SSID NintendoSpotPass5 and password Pokemon01 to see if you can get a GAME one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭Colham


    Demo code for ye: A05RKJTY074WJLCV


  • Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not G.R


    Colham wrote: »
    Demo code for ye: A05RKJTY074WJLCV

    <3 Thank you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    So where are people pre ordering this ? Amazon works out at just under €40, anyone see any better deals around


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    It's actually being bought for me for my birthday, so I dunno where it's actually being gotten.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Argos will have it 43, symths for 45, for those like me who want to enjoy buying it in a shop.


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭RoboAmish


    Kinda torn on this one. Hoenn was always my least favourite region (until Kalos!) and I don't have the nostalgia for this that I do for the first two generations. I remember enjoying the game but it never left a huge impression on me.

    And yet, I still sort of want it. Gotta get that Pokemon fix. And I'll probably end up sinking 50+ hours into it.

    Maybe I should just restart the original... I still have my copy of Ruby on my shelf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    You can order it on Rakuten for £34ish with delivery, + there are codes floating around (eg GIFTS10 should give a tenner off) but I'm not actually buying it so I can't confirm they'll process the order :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    Heading to the pokemon center in the morning to pick up a copy and one of the new 3DS's. Well hopefully, I've no preorder but we'll see what happens.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    The hype for this has really gone off a cliff lately. Completely forgot it was out so soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    ****s sake. I'm in new york on the 26th - 31st, have to wait for the 1st to get it :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    The hype for this has really gone off a cliff lately. Completely forgot it was out so soon.

    it's because everyone is sick of mega evos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Mega spoilers about the games from the leaks now the game is out, so I'll spoiler it
    So ORAS are set in a different universe than the original RS. And in fact, the delta episode is about you saving the original Hoenn from RS. And its heavily implied that in regards to the two timelines, the original timeline doesn't have mega pokemon. So could be a way to revert back if people didn't like megas?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    cloud493 wrote: »
    ****s sake. I'm in new york on the 26th - 31st, have to wait for the 1st to get it :mad:
    I have an assessment in college on the 28th, so I dunno if I'll be able to go home to get my copy of it. Bit annoying having late assessments on Fridays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    That sucks :( I could download it of course, but I only go digital only if theres no other option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I go digital because I'm too lazy to go to the shop :pac:

    Much handier having everything in the one place too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    :)

    Didn't get the 3DS as it was preorder only but happy to get the games and shook hands with Masuda :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Lucky man :p I'm trying to think of any possible way to get it early, but I got nothing. Even connecting to the US e-shop won't work, apparently.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Been playing world of warcraft and study week starts when pokemon comes out. Doubt I'll be looking at it until christmas anyway. Would just download it from eshop but it tends to be a decent bit more.


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