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Best way to 'coast' in college??

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  • #52
    Cause is Right
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭Cause is Right


    Jester252 wrote: »
    I was referring to article 42 of the Constitution of Ireland. Your right to an education. Which you made me realise that coasters don't deserve kiddo
    it's "you're". you're not fast to learn
    Jester252 wrote: »
    But for someone who doesn't want to waste time dealing with a poster who they think is a "troll", you do seem to spend a lot of time dealing with that poster.
    likewise
    Jester252 wrote: »
    Maybe if you applied yourself to your education like you do to this thread, you won't need advice on how to scrape through college with no effort.
    That's avoiding the original query I pose


  • #53
    barneystinson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Jester252 wrote: »
    He is coasting if he wants to make college easier :rolleyes:

    It's hard to do anything with what you learn if you don't learn it property kiddo. The top people in the world, in their fields, are the ones who put in the effort and they are worth more to society than a coaster kiddo.

    Yep, trying to win by being a condescending clown :rolleyes:

    As for the emboldened part, what are you actually suggesting? Should he be asking for ways to make his studies more difficult?! What kind of a moronic point are you trying to make?

    As for the rest of it, what a load of nonsense - apart from very targeted courses like medicine or some science/engineering courses, what you learn in college is often of very little consequence when you get out into the world of employment, the piece of paper you got from the University is simply the key to opening doors to employment, and your success in the job is going to be based on how well you can do the job.

    If anything, I'd take a person who coasted to a 2.1 over someone who had to break their bollix to get a first, any day of the week - since they will probably display a greater innate ability in that area than the person whose virtues you extol. I could show you specific instances of this from both of my college experiences, people who have the book smarts and none of the street smarts or interpersonal skills necessary to actually get on in their careers.

    And as for the people at the top of their fields, they may put in the work, but all the work in the world won't get you to the top of any discipline if you don't have the talent to match it.

    The OP will be just fine, he's clearly got his head screwed on. As for you, I don't know whether you're a student or what in UL, but I'm pretty sure whenever you do venture outside you're in for a rude awakening, kiddo ;);););););););););););)

    So my advice, keep hitting up the bank of mammy & daddy, or win yourself a scholarship with your tremendous unquenchable thirst for academic knowledge, because with an attitude like yours in the real world, meh!


  • #54
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Cause is Right wrote: »
    it's "you're". you're not fast to learn

    You're right to an education :rolleyes:
    likewise

    I never called anybody a troll kiddo ;)
    That's avoiding the original query I pose

    Still looking for the easy answer or is that too hard?


  • #55
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    barneystinson wrote: »
    Yep, trying to win by being a condescending clown :rolleyes:

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
    As for the emboldened part, what are you actually suggesting? Should he be asking for ways to make his studies more difficult?! What kind of a moronic point are you trying to make?

    I never suggested anything, you did kiddo ;)
    As for the rest of it, what a load of nonsense - apart from very targeted courses like medicine or some science/engineering courses, what you learn in college is often of very little consequence when you get out into the world of employment, the piece of paper you got from the University is simply the key to opening doors to employment, and your success in the job is going to be based on how well you can do the job.

    You can't do a job well without being able to understand the work and reason behind it kiddo.
    If anything, I'd take a person who coasted to a 2.1 over someone who had to break their bollix to get a first, any day of the week - since they will probably display a greater innate ability in that area than the person whose virtues you extol. I could show you specific instances of this from both of my college experiences, people who have the book smarts and none of the street smarts or interpersonal skills necessary to actually get on in their careers.

    So you rather hire someone who won't put in extra work instead do the bare minimum to a low standard. I wonder how long that company will last.
    And as for the people at the top of their fields, they may put in the work, but all the work in the world won't get you to the top of any discipline if you don't have the talent to match it.

    Its amazing that many of the most talented people in the world put down hand work and dedication as the reason for their talent. To quote Bruce Lee
    “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.”
    The OP will be just fine, he's clearly got his head screwed on. As for you, I don't know whether you're a student or what in UL, but I'm pretty sure whenever you do venture outside you're in for a rude awakening, kiddo

    A rude awaking waits for you kiddo. Why would they hire an so-so coaster when they could hire the hard-working, well educated graduates? ;););););););););););)
    So my advice, keep hitting up the bank of mammy & daddy, or win yourself a scholarship with your tremendous unquenchable thirst for academic knowledge, because with an attitude like yours in the real world, meh!

    You know nothing of the real world if you think working hard won't get you anywhere.


  • #56
    Cause is Right
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭Cause is Right


    Jester252 wrote: »
    :rolleyes::rolleyes:



    I never suggested anything, you did kiddo ;)



    You can't do a job well without being able to understand the work and reason behind it kiddo.



    So you rather hire someone who won't put in extra work instead do the bare minimum to a low standard. I wonder how long that company will last.



    Its amazing that many of the most talented people in the world put down hand work and dedication as the reason for their talent. To quote Bruce Lee
    “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.”



    A rude awaking waits for you kiddo. Why would they hire an so-so coaster when they could hire the hard-working, well educated graduates? ;););););););););););)



    You know nothing of the real world if you think working hard won't get you anywhere.
    And I thought I was a dog with a bone!


  • #57
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Cause is Right wrote: »
    And I thought I was a dog with a bone!

    I don't think so. To be like a dog with a bone would require effort.


  • #58
    barneystinson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Ah Jester, so much wrong with your posts and your attitude generally.

    What are you now, about 23, and still in college getting up on 6 years there?

    It'll be quite the dose of reality when mammy/daddy/taxpayers like me stop supporting you and you need to join the real world.

    You said you haven't suggested anything - you've done nothing but make suggestions. Suggestions based on your own snobbish, jaundiced view by the way, rather than anything factual - not much of a scientist... (Hint: read the first sentence of the OP - he was asking how to be more efficient, a perfectly reasonable question).

    You've made a few fundamental errors in your reasoning, one of which is that coasters somehow half-ass stuff or haven't learned it properly - that's nonsense, coasters CAN coast because they find it relatively easy! That must really wreck your head as you sit there toiling to get it all to come together for you...

    And when it comes time to get a job, the coaster will be able to do a solid rounded interview (you know, displaying personality), rather than coming across like some gibbering freak who just stumbled out of the library... and when they get the job, the fact that they coasted in college doesn't mean they're not going to work hard to succeed in a career, again that's quite a leap of logic for you to make as a science postgrad...

    From my own experience, the swottiest people that I went to college with, did not go on to have the most successful careers (in the 11 years to date anyway) - the girl who was top of my class works at a supermarket till now, because she just didnt have the personality or self confidence despite her work ethic and academic ability - people who got 2.2's, either through coasting or because that was their academic limit, have gone on to have successful careers through hard work.

    Your posting history on boards confirms everything one could need to know about you, you're not a very nice or pleasant individual, you enjoy bickering with people online, and you don't really contribute much; but hey, you're learning loads of really important stuff in UL and if you get enough qualifications someone will probably overlook your personality and employ you...

    I know from my own experience that I'm 100% correct in what I've said here. But I can see I'm going nowhere with you because this is the kind of exchange you thrive on, so I'll leave it there, and you can even have the last word. I'm sure it'll involve more condescension and emoticons, as is your wont.


  • #59
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    barneystinson wrote: »
    Ah Jester, so much wrong with your posts and your attitude generally.

    What are you now, about 23, and still in college getting up on 6 years there?

    It'll be quite the dose of reality when mammy/daddy/taxpayers like me stop supporting you and you need to join the real world.

    You said you haven't suggested anything - you've done nothing but make suggestions. Suggestions based on your own snobbish, jaundiced view by the way, rather than anything factual - not much of a scientist... (Hint: read the first sentence of the OP - he was asking how to be more efficient, a perfectly reasonable question).

    You've made a few fundamental errors in your reasoning, one of which is that coasters somehow half-ass stuff or haven't learned it properly - that's nonsense, coasters CAN coast because they find it relatively easy! That must really wreck your head as you sit there toiling to get it all to come together for you...

    And when it comes time to get a job, the coaster will be able to do a solid rounded interview (you know, displaying personality), rather than coming across like some gibbering freak who just stumbled out of the library... and when they get the job, the fact that they coasted in college doesn't mean they're not going to work hard to succeed in a career, again that's quite a leap of logic for you to make as a science postgrad...

    From my own experience, the swottiest people that I went to college with, did not go on to have the most successful careers (in the 11 years to date anyway) - the girl who was top of my class works at a supermarket till now, because she just didnt have the personality or self confidence despite her work ethic and academic ability - people who got 2.2's, either through coasting or because that was their academic limit, have gone on to have successful careers through hard work.

    Your posting history on boards confirms everything one could need to know about you, you're not a very nice or pleasant individual, you enjoy bickering with people online, and you don't really contribute much; but hey, you're learning loads of really important stuff in UL and if you get enough qualifications someone will probably overlook your personality and employ you...

    I know from my own experience that I'm 100% correct in what I've said here. But I can see I'm going nowhere with you because this is the kind of exchange you thrive on, so I'll leave it there, and you can even have the last word. I'm sure it'll involve more condescension and emoticons, as is your wont.

    At 12:30 on a Thursday night you posted detailed information regarding myself and my post history on Boards.

    Let that sink in.

    Always remember that I cause you to waste time, you could have been spending having fun and enjoying yourself, over an online conversation. ;)


  • #60
    jigglypuffstuff
    Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    How these people get into college is beyond me......


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  • #61
    Cause is Right
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭Cause is Right


    pone2012 wrote: »
    How these people get into college is beyond me......
    No it's not. You don't even need half a brain to get into college(maybe a 3rd)! You'd know that if you had half a brain.


  • #62
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Cause is Right wrote: »
    No it's not. You don't even need half a brain to get into college(maybe a 3rd)! You'd know that if you had half a brain.

    Re-read this


  • #63
    Cause is Right
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭Cause is Right


    I'm coasting anyway. It's actually quite easy. The trick to just cram in the final two weeks!!! Come on lads, who's with me?? I think even have it in me to seduce Jester into being a coaster!!


  • #64
    Cause is Right
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭Cause is Right


    barneystinson wrote: »
    What are you now, about 23, and still in college getting up on 6 years there?
    Jester's been in college 6 years???


  • #65
    Chickentown
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭Chickentown


    Cause is Right wrote: »
    I have been quite inefficient over the years. I'd like to try and beat the system and save myself some stress for a change. I always have this idea that end of term is far away, and therefore to motivate myself to study, I try and immerse myself in a particular topic. Anything will become somewhat interesting once you get into it, but this method takes time. This reason combined with the fact that I don't study enough anyway, explains why there is often many topics uncovered nearing exams. Because the lecturers rarely refer to the exam papers, I get this idea in my head that I should try and learn, understand and memorise each lecture's material. But of course, it would be better to take an attitude of looking at the exam paper relatively soon, and choosing your answer from the information giving, as opposed to memorising the information given.

    I also think it's really important to know how the marks are distributed within each module. For example, if you're getting really mixed with the results you've taken during a practical for a write-up, and if it's only worth 2%, then you can fudge, knowing that if you're disciplined later on in the year, you'll be just fine. But of course the interesting thing is that people who coast, usually aren't disciplined about matters anyway, so often end up showing up to class for the unimportant lectures, and missing the vital classes.

    If you're studying a new topic, it may often be the case that once you've grasped the main concepts, you may not need to read any further. Although that may be the point when you're properly broken in, and may find it easy to motivate yourself to read more... because most of the procrastination is over starting a new topic. But, none the less, if you know that it's not important in the greater scheme of things, or if it's taking up you're time from other important things, or even if it's just causing you stress, then it's not important

    I'm not sure whether I'm looking for advice from nerds, or coasters!! But if you do have any wisdom that is somewhat unique, that I mightn't have thought of myself, please share.

    Get up early each morning, dress your bed, have a shower and brush your teeth. Then WORK ALL DAY whether your have lectures etc. that day or not.

    Remember just because you are sitting in the library staring at a book for hours, periodically checking Facebook, does not mean you are working.

    If you drive, leave college at 7pm, that way the traffic will have tinned somewhat and you won't waste valuable study time sitting in traffic, bare in mind you will encounter some traffic (just stay calm and visualize some of the concepts you have been working on), when you get home; work again, then head to bed at 2 maybe 3am. Sleep for a few hours and do it all over again. Do this for 12 weeks and you will see some results.

    By the way, when there is an assignment due, do it to the absolute best of your ability. Try to get every single percent you can before you sit your end of term exams.

    There is no secret formula, only hard work.

    Never mind the coasters, when have you ever seen a job vacancy for a coaster, employers are looking for workers not coasters.

    Coasters get caught out in the end.


  • #66
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Cause is Right wrote: »
    Jester's been in college 6 years???

    Nope


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  • #67
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    This thread is like watching a few toddlers bickering over using a crayon...


  • #68
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,148 ✭✭✭893bet


    Coaster reporting with more letters after my name than in my name.


  • #69
    barneystinson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Chickentown wrote: »
    Get up early each morning, dress your bed, have a shower and brush your teeth. Then WORK ALL DAY whether your have lectures etc. that day or not.

    Remember just because you are sitting in the library staring at a book for hours, periodically checking Facebook, does not mean you are working.

    If you drive, leave college at 7pm, that way the traffic will have tinned somewhat and you won't waste valuable study time sitting in traffic, bare in mind you will encounter some traffic (just stay calm and visualize some of the concepts you have been working on), when you get home; work again, then head to bed at 2 maybe 3am. Sleep for a few hours and do it all over again. Do this for 12 weeks and you will see some results.

    By the way, when there is an assignment due, do it to the absolute best of your ability. Try to get every single percent you can before you sit your end of term exams.

    There is no secret formula, only hard work.

    Never mind the coasters, when have you ever seen a job vacancy for a coaster, employers are looking for workers not coasters.

    Coasters get caught out in the end.

    This is mostly tripe, unless all of this additional academic effort is going to directly improve your employability or your ability to function in a job in your chosen field.

    It is hugely flawed logic to assume a person who is happy to coast academically is lazy generally and will try to coast in a workplace - some people prefer to "do", than to sit reading about how to do. Some of the best workers I know would have very little inclination to do more study than the bare minimum necessary. Some of the most studious people I know are incapable of functioning to a high level in a workplace.

    For example, as an undergrad I did a BBS, which included non-elective modules in HR, marketing and economics, all of which were of total irrelevance to me once I knew I'd be looking for a job as a trainee accountant. My time was much better spent working part-time in a relevant position, than fluting around studying academic HR / marketing theory that I'll never need to use, and I coasted to my honours degree having secured my training contract before starting 4th year by virtue of impressing in my part-time role.

    Means.

    To.

    An.

    End.


  • #70
    Cause is Right
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭Cause is Right


    Chickentown wrote: »
    Get up early each morning, dress your bed, have a shower and brush your teeth. Then WORK ALL DAY whether your have lectures etc. that day or not.

    Remember just because you are sitting in the library staring at a book for hours, periodically checking Facebook, does not mean you are working.

    If you drive, leave college at 7pm, that way the traffic will have tinned somewhat and you won't waste valuable study time sitting in traffic, bare in mind you will encounter some traffic (just stay calm and visualize some of the concepts you have been working on), when you get home; work again, then head to bed at 2 maybe 3am. Sleep for a few hours and do it all over again. Do this for 12 weeks and you will see some results.

    By the way, when there is an assignment due, do it to the absolute best of your ability. Try to get every single percent you can before you sit your end of term exams.

    There is no secret formula, only hard work.

    Never mind the coasters, when have you ever seen a job vacancy for a coaster, employers are looking for workers not coasters.

    Coasters get caught out in the end.
    An unusual form of sarcasm!


  • #71
    Cause is Right
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭Cause is Right


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Nope
    Ah go on Jessie, tell us how long?


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  • #72
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Cause is Right wrote: »
    Ah go on Jessie, tell us how long?

    4 ;)


  • #73
    Chris Martin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Chris Martin


    I think the most annoying thing about this thread was the overuse of the word kiddo. Thankfully it's died down again, back to arguing, which is much easier to read.

    On the topic, there's always going to be people coasting, there's always going to be people studying dawn til dusk and sometimes they obtain the same results.
    In college I set myself goals for certain modules. I'm not obsessed, but I study something when I can or if I don't understand something. I'm far from a role model student, A's are a scarcity when it comes to grades and I'm usually happy with any B, but it's all about how you choose to tackle your workload and what you want to achieve.
    Up until now I haven't done as much as I should have or could have which means after this year, I'll have to put a lot of work into 4th year, but it's doable. Ultimately I reach my goal, I couldn't give a sh!t what anyone else got. If I was bottom of the class, yes, I might be curious, but in the end, I got what I wanted to..
    Thats my view on other people coasting, I don't really care.

    Now to answer OPs original question:
    Maybe not coasting, in fact it's additional work towards the end of the year, but I found it's effective if you've slacked off earlier in the year. I print off all tutorials and worksheets, print off all my lecture slides. Read through lectures, then answer tutorials. Then before exam, I do the same thing again, this time it's proper cramming though as I tend to stay up the night before an exam.
    I don't think I've taken an exam I haven't crammed for.
    Also with some lecturers, they take their exams straight from past exams and tutorials so if you get yourself very familiar with those and you're only aiming for a pass, a lot of the time, this is enough.
    I know people who do exams where it's 60% for MCQ SQs and 40% for LQs and they learn off tutorials, answer SQs and don't even attempt LQs. Quite risky but they seem confident enough to do it...
    All I can offer I'm afraid and nothing comes with a guarantee... ;)


  • #74
    Chickentown
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭Chickentown


    Cause is Right wrote: »
    An unusual form of sarcasm!

    Yea but because it is for the right cause, be..Cause is Right.


  • #75
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I did this partly for the first year or two.
    The answer to the OPs original question is to go to your lectures/tutorials and complete and assignments. Until co-op I would have done little extra study outside of that.


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