Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

foggy_lad wrote: »

What needs to happen now is a complete ban on the sale or pre-booking of tickets for concerts or events or festivals where full licenses and permissions required have not been granted.

But is this even possible?
I mean to submit a plan, you probably need the specs from the artists regarding the show?

Maybe it would make more sense (if it is possible) to separate the licensing from the permission planning? Surely in this case, these 3 (or 4 or 5) would have been dealt before we reached this situation.

It's a bad day for all concerned and it highlights, yet again, the near pathological inability in this country to enact and stick to basic and clear regulations. We still it seems prefer to live in the land of 'nod and a wink regulation' that accepts shoddy standards as long as everybody's palm is crossed with silver.

The GAA should have told Aitkin that he should go and talk to the FAI at Landsdown Rd or perhaps consider a venue like Stradbally which would serve as a central location for converging fans and wasn't hosting any big events this year since Oxygen is defunct. They should have explained that they had already hosted three special events and it would infringe upon the already fraught relations with their neighbors if they broke the accepted agreements they had with them and hosted these gigs.
Instead the GAA displayed an attitude that tippified the boom era greed that said 'to hang with the rules, respect or consequence's there's a few quid to be made lads!' and once again the soft regulation we practice around everything prompted the chancers from all walks of life to see how far they could push their luck in an enviornment of weak regulation. The answer was as usual 'too far' and at a high cost to many. We are still not immune to 'bubble mentality' it seems.

Aitkin typifies the attitude of the greedy elites of this country that imagine planning and guidelines don't apply to them, only to the little people. It seems to have come as a genuine shock to the man that an automatic exemption (in spite of what he should have known about prior agreements with residents of the area) would not be rubber stamped.

Dublin CoCo of course typifies our regulators, inept, incapable of joined up thinking (is there a coherent city plan for major events staging?) and capable only of acting in hindsight and after a crisis, even when it was obvious that regulation in a particular sector was badly needed (how many years have Croke Park residents been in conflict with the GAA?).
As usual they're too busy erecting special traffic lights for cyclists to notice that their economy is about to take a 50 million euro blow due to poor planning and regulation.

And it should be a salutary lesson to the fawning fans that Brooks doesn't 'love Ireland', he loves a bit of cash and any embarrasment for this debacle is on his shoulders, for acting like a petulant prima-donna, and not ours for letting down 'Ireland's biggest fan'.
The grotesque hyperbole from the handwringers about our 'international reputation' is laughable, if we garner a reputation as a country that doesn't bend over backwards to allow foreign firms or artists to drive a coach and four through peoples rights if they wave a buck under our noses, and instead garner a reputation for a well regulated city in which business know where the stand that is no bad thing. In fact it's a sign of maturity. Hopefully it means we attract fewer 'cowboys', shady operators and fly by night fast buck merchants and more considered business.

Anyone else been reading about the Garda investigation into the possible forging of complaints from croke park residents who never sent complaints about the gigs to the DCC at all?

Really wouldn't surprise me at all with some of the s**#e that goes in this country.

Enda Kenny said

“This has an implication of a quarter of a billion for this city in terms of the economy, the excitement and all of that.”

Having a financially illiterate Taoiseach is an embarrassment not that some concerts got cancelled.

ankaragucu wrote: »

Hang on, can some one tell me WHO has made this decision of no concerts at all?My understanding was DCC licenced three gigs only.Garth gave his threat.Background moves were made.Now its announced there will be no gigs at all.WHO made this decision??

We understand it was Garth himself. Garth was very keen and took a personal interest and wanted to do a special show, he felt he could do it ~ now artists are like this.

All creative people can be quite eccentric and seemingly 'cut off their nose to spite their face' and squander millions or tear up millions worth and move on.

Garth takes it very personally, very emotionally.

I like what he did. WE had an opportunity to make a little Irish Magic and we blew it.

But ultimately it was Garth's decision. Hopefully in time the wounds will heal.

The only group I blame is Croke Park. They new about the agreement when they rented out the stadium. I hope aiken take them to court.

Iv heard one person describe today's decision as our 9/11.

Mahou wrote: »

Enda Kenny said

“This has an implication of a quarter of a billion for this city in terms of the economy, the excitement and all of that.”

Having a financially illiterate Taoiseach is an embarrassment not that some concerts got cancelled.

I wouldn't say that, some of us see much bigger pictures and spin offs, my own back of the hand says it's worth a loss of €25Bn in three years.

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Source?

it was 70k sales outside of Ireland, not overseas.
This includes UK and NI.
I would like to know how many of the 70k were sold in Belfast. . .

The really sad bit for me is the amount of air time Christy Burke is getting, cringe every time I hear him, he's an absolute powerless Lord Mayor, a mere token junkett that is shared around by politicians , nothing to do with merit.