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The Jobbridge Scandal

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    MadsL wrote: »
    FYP...

    and done.

    Of course it's my opinion, who else's would it be? :confused:

    Why I think it's not true. Whatever about people advertising internships that are clearly bullshít, you can't let someone go from their job and rehire them as an intern in the same one. And I doubt any employee would put up with and not report it if it did happen. Add in the fact that he's in his 60s.. I call shenanigans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Of course it's my opinion, who else's would it be? :confused:

    I hope you appreciate the distinction between "that's a lie" and "I don't believe that" in future. You still seem to be having trouble with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Of course it's my opinion, who else's would it be? :confused:

    Why I think it's not true. Whatever about people advertising internships that are clearly bullshít, you can't let someone go from their job and rehire them as an intern in the same one. And I doubt any employee would put up with and not report it if it did happen. Add in the fact that he's in his 60s.. I call shenanigans.

    You are of course assuming that the employer and the employee told other employees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    MadsL wrote: »
    I hope you appreciate the distinction between "that's a lie" and "I don't believe that" in future. You still seem to be having trouble with that.

    Thanks for that. What would I do with AH?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Coffeeteasugar


    There is a lot of exploitation by the scheme, which is a pity as it does have its benefits too, like boosting confidence, getting out of the house, and feeling proud simply by getting the dole paid into a bank account!! It's no job but at least it's something anyway. Although, should only be 20-30 hours max!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    Came across this earlier. How do you need experience to be a cleaner.
    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    There is a lot of exploitation by the scheme, which is a pity as it does have its benefits too, like boosting confidence, getting out of the house, and feeling proud simply by getting the dole paid into a bank account!! It's no job but at least it's something anyway. Although, should only be 20-30 hours max!

    I'm on a CE scheme now and I have to admit that the above is all accurate; I was definitely on my way to depression of some sort due to just plain not having anything to do and feeling useless.

    Of course, now I get to listen to people say how they wish they could afford to keep me on when my scheme ends in a couple of months, which translates as 'we love you, but we love having free staff more'. I could apply for an extension, but it'd be of no use because I still wouldn't have a job at the end of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    chughes wrote: »
    There seems to be a reluctance to name the 23 banned companies. Anyone got a link to this list?

    I emailed the Dept of Social Protection, but they said they won't release the names due to "data protection" issues.

    I will put in an FOI request, just to see what happens. It will be probably be refused on the same grounds though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Can you get in trouble for turning down a position. FAS are putting my name forward for load of administration jobs. The recent was to be selling tickets at the desk of an art gallery. I am a quieter person who would rather put the head down in the office rather than greeting people all day. But if i turn it down i presume i will get cut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭El Gato


    I emailed the Dept of Social Protection, but they said they won't release the names due to "data protection" issues.

    I will put in an FOI request, just to see what happens. It will be probably be refused on the same grounds though.

    You could request them to clarify which section (and/or subsection) of the Data Protection Act that precludes them from releasing information which is in the public interest.

    After all, these companies openly displayed their names when they began abusing members of the public, why shouldn't the public be entitled to this information?

    Not only are the government aware these companies are exploiting the scheme and the people on it, they are actively covering for these companies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,274 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    Can you get in trouble for turning down a position. FAS are putting my name forward for load of administration jobs. The recent was to be selling tickets at the desk of an art gallery. I am a quieter person who would rather put the head down in the office rather than greeting people all day. But if i turn it down i presume i will get cut.

    Sounds like a soft gig,id take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Sounds like a soft gig,id take it.

    Ye well if i turn it down i will get in trouble. If i take it and hate it if i leave it i will be in trouble. The idea can be good in some cases. I have a finance degree and would happily do 20 hours a week for experience in Finance. I don't see how selling tickets and meeting and greeting helps me in any way at all.

    The way it is run is shocking. I was called in for a meeting with FAS and they asked me what jobs i would be interested in. I told them anything in finance or marketing and i am not keen on administration. Since the meeting i have been sent to 4 interviews. Three of them have been administration jobs and this selling tickets job. You don't get a choice FAS contact the employer for you and they ring you up to set up an interview. You also get a letter from FAS saying if you do not follow up with the interview your payments could be cut.

    I have no problem like i said getting experience in something that is useful. I would love the help of them informing me of something relevant to my experience. I am doing two courses at the moment and can prove i am looking for work yet they are trying to shift me into a job where it will be of no benefit to me. I think if run properly it is not the worst idea in the world. But going by the way they are acting i have no doubt their only intention is to get the figures of unemployment down to show Europe. They want jobs filled and don't care who does them once their filled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭El Gato


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    Can you get in trouble for turning down a position. FAS are putting my name forward for load of administration jobs. The recent was to be selling tickets at the desk of an art gallery. I am a quieter person who would rather put the head down in the office rather than greeting people all day. But if i turn it down i presume i will get cut.

    Are these on the Jobbridge scheme?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 OffalyLad


    SugarCoat wrote: »
    It seems like everytime I view the Fas website more and more real jobs are dissapearing from it and being replaced with free labour internships. When I search for specific sectors now all I seem to find are internships. This scheme is absolutely sickening me as it has potentially destroyed several thousand entry level jobs. I can't believe that Joan Burton and the labour party have completely ruined the youth labour market with a scheme which is:

    -replacing real paid jobs with "internships"
    -exploiting the jobless
    -wasting tax-payer money to provide companies with free labour
    -putting underqualified/inexperienced/unvetted people in jobs with far too much responsibility(working with kids etc...)
    -distorting our unemployment figures
    -putting existing paid jobs at risk
    -being used to makeup for a shortfall of skills in the public service due to the recruitment embargo

    Good people of AH, what can I do about this fiasco? It just makes me so angry thinking about this highly unsustainable and extremely exploitative scheme being always skewed in a positive light by our media and government :mad:

    Start a Petition


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    cant be any worse than the shower we've had.
    may as well give them a go :pac: :pac: :pac:

    They are all as bad as each other but personally speaking I'll vote for United left alliance /people before profit, you won't see them bailing out banks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭MOC88


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    They are all as bad as each other but personally speaking I'll vote for United left alliance /people before profit, you won't see them bailing out banks.

    Haha that's what people said about Fianna Gael (mainly Fianna Gael) and Labour (mainly Labour)

    Now if only we had this guy... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/8040540/Brazil-election-clown-wins-seat-in-congress.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 OffalyLad


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    They are all as bad as each other but personally speaking I'll vote for United left alliance /people before profit, you won't see them bailing out banks.

    You might see them ****ing up our economy even more, we have no sovereignty The E.U. federal state calls the shots


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭EdCastle


    OffalyLad wrote: »
    Start a Petition

    Just don't bother voting Labour in the next election.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 OffalyLad


    EdCastle wrote: »
    Just don't bother voting Labour in the next election.

    Lets hope they'll be dead and buried next election time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    OffalyLad wrote: »
    You might see them ****ing up our economy even more, we have no sovereignty The E.U. federal state calls the shots

    Surely they could be no worse than FF/FG/Lab /SF,

    I'll be voting for them anyway, I'd never vote for any of the 'main political party's' ever again


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    They are all as bad as each other but personally speaking I'll vote for United left alliance /people before profit, you won't see them bailing out banks.

    b0ll0cks!! ULA are finished and people before profit wrecked the jail the bankers dail protest showing themselves to be corrupted to the core!! smart fcukers make it look like they want change, much like fine gael and labour did!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    MOC88 wrote: »
    Haha that's what people said about Fianna Gael (mainly Fianna Gael) and Labour (mainly Labour)

    Now if only we had this guy... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/8040540/Brazil-election-clown-wins-seat-in-congress.html

    Haha that's mad :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    b0ll0cks!! ULA are finished and people before profit wrecked the jail the bankers dail protest showing themselves to be corrupted to the core!! smart fcukers make it look like they want change, much like fine gael and labour did!!

    You think what you want but not a ****ing chance would they be as bad as the clowns we have now


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 OffalyLad


    This scheme hits graduates and students looking for summer work in particular I think someone should get a petition going and campaign to abolish the farce that is Job-Bridge


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    Back to the main question I like the majority can see this jobridge for the farce it is, it needs to be scrapped immediately.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    You think what you want but not a ****ing chance would they be as bad as the clowns we have now

    and you can say what you like but hindsight has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that what you are trying to portray is just not true


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    What happens when you finish Job Bridge and do not get taken on, not like you have much chance of getting a real job now seeing that they are all Job Bridges mainly, and once you finish yours, you cannot do another. So how will the social welfare people be, don't you have to prove you're looking for work, but how can you prove it if the work is not there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭danish pasterys


    returnNull wrote: »
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    I seen one for a kitchen porter :)


    Yes i seen one with the job description "the intern will gain valuable experience in manual labour an working under pressure" haha who the hell would actually apply for such a unpaid roll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Two experiences i have come across, friend went into Civil Service on internship, he was a post grad and they taunted him about being the teaboy, had to threaten to write to his TD to get away from the place.

    Second was with a prestige car mark, let marketing job and got intern for sfa , shocking, Paddy want his employees for nothing.

    I'd question very loudly, with swearwords, why the Civil Service is allowed to take advantage of Jobbridge. That is truly a joke. If there is Govt work to be done it should be a fixed term paid contract.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭EdCastle


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    Back to the main question I like the majority can see this jobridge for the farce it is, it needs to be scrapped immediately.

    The majority of sane people do. Working for nothing doesn't put bread on the table.

    Of course some 'wet behind the ear' clowns think this is route 101 to the big time. If these numpties quit there clowning around then this half assed scheme would get the chop.

    Unfortunately as it is, the government are thinking....some idiots will actually work for nothing, lets just extend the scheme to other industries, see how many more fools we can net for a free days work.

    Day in day out, I hear people complaining about the government, the fact is that it is people who are to blame. After everything that has happened, anyone working for free is a complete back stabbing traitor to the ordinary working people of this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭danish pasterys


    Is it worth doing an Internship ? Internships have got alot of bad press about expliotation and high precentage not gettin kept on after the 9 months.

    I recently completed a fetac IT and wondering if i should go for the internship i have been offered or else persue what im doin in college ??

    Im hoping If i took the internship it would give me valubale experience and lead to a paid career


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭EdCastle


    Yes i seen one with the job description "the intern will gain valuable experience in manual labour an working under pressure" haha who the hell would actually apply for such a unpaid roll

    ......a clown, numpty, idiot, fool and traitor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Is it worth doing an Internship ? Internships have got alot of bad press about expliotation and high precentage not gettin kept on after the 9 months.

    I recently completed a fetac IT and wondering if i should go for the internship i have been offered or else persue what im doin in college ??

    Im hoping If i took the internship it would give me valubale experience and lead to a paid career

    If we take away all the outrageous JobsBridge listings (Shelf packer at Tesco, waitress in some cafe etc) there are listings that, on paper, would benefit people. People who have certain skills but don't have the job experience ... But it's still a flip of the coin weather this will help you to get an actual job or not.

    All I know for sure is that it's currently an employers market. The reailty is that even if you get 9 months usage experience ( :P ) it still is probably not enough for what employers want a candicate to have.

    For example, I worked in a call centre nearly 10 years ago (only worked there for just under a year) I just applied and got the job. Had no experience before hand dealing with phones. But nowadays I see call centre jobs listing two years experience as criteria. For a stupid mickey mouse call centre job. You can imagine what the critera is like for college required type jobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭El Gato


    Is it worth doing an Internship ? Internships have got alot of bad press about expliotation and high precentage not gettin kept on after the 9 months.

    I recently completed a fetac IT and wondering if i should go for the internship i have been offered or else persue what im doin in college ??

    Im hoping If i took the internship it would give me valubale experience and lead to a paid career


    Have you even read the thread from the start?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭El Gato


    If we take away all the outrageous JobsBridge listings (Shelf packer at Tesco, waitress in some cafe etc) there are listings that, on paper, would benefit people. People who have certain skills but don't have the job experience ... But it's still a flip of the coin weather this will help you to get an actual job or not.

    All I know for sure is that it's currently an employers market. The reailty is that even if you get 9 months usage experience ( :P ) it still is probably not enough for what employers want a candicate to have.

    For example, I worked in a call centre nearly 10 years ago (only worked there for just under a year) I just applied and got the job. Had no experience before hand dealing with phones. But nowadays I see call centre jobs listing two years experience as criteria. For a stupid mickey mouse call centre job. You can imagine what the critera is like for college required type jobs.

    I have been refused numerous call center tech support roles over the last few months even though I have over 4 years at escalation level for a major multinational OSP! - Why? Over qualified :rolleyes:

    The reality of the Jobbridge scheme is exactly that it is a SCHEME

    (one of the connotations of the word: 2. A secret or devious plan, now I know there are other connotations but I choose this one :P)

    A kneejerk reaction by the bunch of cûnts government to try 'ease' the unemployment 'issue'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    El Gato, you're posting some real amount of crap. I do agree that the scheme is a complete joke and companies are taking advantage of it, but the people that apply for the jobs are not idiots, numpties and definitely not traitors. They're people who want to work, and have hope that something will come of it. The crap you're blathering is ill thought out and comes off like the ramblings of an idiot who just joined a University political society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I'll probably be crucified for bringing this up again but wouldn't this scheme be good for people who don't have any work experience and by that, I don't mean work experience in their field of study, I mean just any work experience be it as a shop assistant, barman, rocket scientist! I know a lot of college types who never worked a job until they got out of college. Now I'd imagine that's probably even more likely since part time jobs are more scarce.

    If I was unemployed I would be looking at doing an internship or a volunteer for a charity organization to show I have an actual work ethic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    EdCastle wrote: »
    The majority of sane people do. Working for nothing doesn't put bread on the table.

    Of course some 'wet behind the ear' clowns think this is route 101 to the big time. If these numpties quit there clowning around then this half assed scheme would get the chop.

    Unfortunately as it is, the government are thinking....some idiots will actually work for nothing, lets just extend the scheme to other industries, see how many more fools we can net for a free days work.

    Day in day out, I hear people complaining about the government, the fact is that it is people who are to blame. After everything that has happened, anyone working for free is a complete back stabbing traitor to the ordinary working people of this country.

    You obviously don't have much of a clue about it. People are now being forced into these internships. FAS recently started calling people in for interviews and asking what type of work they want. Then they send out your C.V. to these internships and you get warned if you don't attend the interview your payment will be cut.

    I got offered a job that has no relevance to my finance degree that i want experience for. I got a letter this morning saying to let them know if i am still interested even though i was never interested FAS set the interview up. So what are my options i turn it down and i will get my money cut or i accept it and waste 9 months of my life getting experience in something that i have no interest in doing. It is fast turning into slave labour. I don't know what to do. To make it worse you have to work every saturday and some weeknights. So to rub it in my friends working 9-5 all week can relax get a nice wage and kick back and watch the football on a Saturday. I get nothing to go in on a Saturday and miss out playing football and watching football. The scheme is a joke.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    You obviously don't have much of a clue about it. People are now being forced into these internships. FAS recently started calling people in for interviews and asking what type of work they want. Then they send out your C.V. to these internships and you get warned if you don't attend the interview your payment will be cut.

    I got offered a job that has no relevance to my finance degree that i want experience for. I got a letter this morning saying to let them know if i am still interested even though i was never interested FAS set the interview up. So what are my options i turn it down and i will get my money cut or i accept it and waste 9 months of my life getting experience in something that i have no interest in doing. It is fast turning into slave labour. I don't know what to do. To make it worse you have to work every saturday and some weeknights. So to rub it in my friends working 9-5 all week can relax get a nice wage and kick back and watch the football on a Saturday. I get nothing to go in on a Saturday and miss out playing football and watching football. The scheme is a joke.

    I asked this yesterday, but will say it again, what will the social welfare do to you when you finish your job bridge and do not get hired. You cannot do another job bridge and every job at the moment out there seems to be one, so they can they cut you if you cannot get a job. I have already been told that I will not be kept on in the company I am with, so when the 9 months are over I will have to go back to the social welfare, will I automatically be placed back on my 188 euro or will I have to jump through all their hoops again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭EdCastle


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    You obviously don't have much of a clue about it. People are now being forced into these internships. FAS recently started calling people in for interviews and asking what type of work they want. Then they send out your C.V. to these internships and you get warned if you don't attend the interview your payment will be cut.
    .

    I know plenty about it. I've been around the block more than a few times, I'm closing on 40 FFS. I'm not going out working for nothing at my age, wtf am I? A slave!

    You sound like a pushover, stand up for yourself & don't be takin any sh*te from them clowns in FAS, they are all well paid by the government to push pens all day. You're entitled to your benefits, they can make their idle threats but their not worth diddly squat.

    I had my own run in not too long ago, he wasn't long backing off once I got thick. I gave him a few choice words and I haven't heard back from them since. Bunch of pen pushing good for nothing assh*les is all they are. To think that nearly 15 years of my taxes are gone paying these mofos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    EdCastle wrote: »
    I know plenty about it. I've been around the block more than a few times, I'm closing on 40 FFS. I'm not going out working for nothing at my age, wtf am I? A slave!

    You sound like a pushover, stand up for yourself & don't be takin any sh*te from them clowns in FAS, they are all well paid by the government to push pens all day. You're entitled to your benefits, they can make their idle threats but their not worth diddly squat.

    I had my own run in not too long ago, he wasn't long backing off once I got thick. I gave him a few choice words and I haven't heard back from them since. Bunch of pen pushing good for nothing assh*les is all they are. To think that nearly 15 years of my taxes are gone paying these mofos.

    Maybe i am being a pushover i don't know. I just can't afford to get cut in my benefits. I have a meeting with them Thursday i am going to say to them that job does nothing to help me get experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭one man clappin


    I have an interview with an employer tomorrow about a Jobbridge internship.
    I have just finished college, degree in IT support and have been trying for jobs since I finished. All I am told is "Sorry, not enough qualifications or not enough experience". I am 44 and desperate to get back working but not sure if I am desperate enough to go on Jobbridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    I have an interview with an employer tomorrow about a Jobbridge internship.
    I have just finished college, degree in IT support and have been trying for jobs since I finished. All I am told is "Sorry, not enough qualifications or not enough experience". I am 44 and desperate to get back working but not sure if I am desperate enough to go on Jobbridge.

    I'm 34 - was in a similar position, looking to get into IT - I needed experience to get a job, and a job to get experience, chicken and egg. It seemed to me that the only way I could get experience was through Jobbridge, anybody advertising normal Helpdesk jobs weren't interested in somebody without at least 2 years experience. It is very much an employers market, plenty of people out there with that amount of experience.

    I applied for an intern-ship in a place I was satisfied could be of benefit to me educationally, and ended up being kept on there too.

    Nate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    I have an interview with an employer tomorrow about a Jobbridge internship.
    I have just finished college, degree in IT support and have been trying for jobs since I finished. All I am told is "Sorry, not enough qualifications or not enough experience". I am 44 and desperate to get back working but not sure if I am desperate enough to go on Jobbridge.

    I think you should definitely go for it if the job involves you doing the actual stuff you did in college. Will be a huge help. Just finishing a job bridge myself and i feel a lot more confident in my skills and id say im way more employable. But i was living at home so the money wasnt a problem. I even saved a good bit.

    Although some say someone like me should be able to walk into a job with a comp sci degree i just didnt feel confident enough about my skillls even though i got good grades. Coz really nobody cares if you got a first or whatever, just what can you do and what have you done before.

    Also to anyone doing comp sci i recommend highly that you either do internships during your degree. Or build sites, programs, whatever in your own time and complete them and have a portfolio and website of all your stuff. You'll probably walk into a job. I wasnt bothered, i just did my college work, that was it. Trying to get a good portfolio now and have a bit of XP so its cool, but i wasted a lot of time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    im in a field looking to change jobs,before anyone brags about it ,im on couple days a week job that requires no skills what so ever,and i get payed min wages and no future in the job.
    So seen a job For IT which i could do,requirements knowledge of MS word,and some graphics design software,fair enough,till i read part 40h week and job Bridge Scheme only,now that's taking Pi$$ srly job where someone will have to spend full week sitting at pc working with word isn't hard,but graphics design software needs some skills,such position should no doubt be fully payed position or at least with contract,and yet they are looking for someone to work for extra 50e a week :cool: f joke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    People who work 40 hours a week on Job Bridge are crazy, they are losing out on 108 Euro a week that they would get if they were doing another job on the minimum wage, a mate of mine only works 30 hours now after being told they would not be able to keep him on and he told them that it was only fair he do the minimum hours in exchange.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭El Gato


    El Gato, you're posting some real amount of crap. I do agree that the scheme is a complete joke and companies are taking advantage of it, but the people that apply for the jobs are not idiots, numpties and definitely not traitors. They're people who want to work, and have hope that something will come of it. The crap you're blathering is ill thought out and comes off like the ramblings of an idiot who just joined a University political society.

    First off, I never labled anyone a numptie, an idiot or a tratior - I AGREED wit another poster who labelled people who subscribed to this SCHEME as such - so get your facts straight.

    People who go on this scheme already know that there is a7% chance of 'something coming of it' as these are the REAL statistics of the scheme.

    The ramblings of an idiot joined a University political society? Why don't you wake up... I'm in my late 30's have 4 degrees behind me and have worked in numerous European countries as well as Canada, the US and Australia and have never seen such incompetence in dealing with an unemployment problem as I have with this scheme.

    I can remember (yes I can) the impact of the recession of the '80's and (weather or not you agree, believe or understand) we are in an economic DEPRESSION and this scheme is a total farce.

    And to get to it- Your point is what exactly? That I am putting down a scheme that is working perfectly and all the participants are really happy and have a real chance of gaining real employment as a result of it?

    Go and read the full thread, understand the reason for it and the anger of the posters....then come back and make a valid point


    EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT:

    Having read a lot of your other posts Joe, it becomes clear, don't bother replying to this post, an uninformed and uneducated opinion does not help this debate,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭El Gato


    To the posters who are posting about trying to get a 'start' in IT..... I have found it very hard to get going.... BUT .......... I have done 3 FULLY PAID internships in which I learned A LOT about the area I am in BUT... BUT... BUT I have a degree in commercial computing from 2001 which I have worked until 2006 in and a Level 7 AND a Level 8 in computing and IT from 2013 which allowed me to get my internships.

    I REFUSED 3 jobbridge internships within 3 weeks of my last internship finishing and went head to head with DSFA regarding this to which I had 0 sanctions.

    IT is an area that a person can actually gain proper internships and with a real possibility of being kept on and if not with the company who offered the internship another company as the internships are PAID and REAL.

    Jobbrodge is a FARCE and has been exposed as such


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭EdCastle


    Seriously! To all you graduates coming out with degrees sleep walking into internships...WTF?

    I just don't get it....you spend 3-4 years investing time and money in a degree that doesn't prepare you for the workforce or make you confident in your skills. WHAT? Isn't that the whole point of degree education, to train someone and prepare them for a workforce. Why are you going out working for nothing and half of you up to your eyeballs in debt? Reality check! A few of you would seriously want to question the degree courses you have just finished.

    You do a trade, you train on the job, you finish with your qualification, you are ready to work. Simply as.


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