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Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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  • #152
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Des wrote: »
    so Keith is making stuff up then?
    Assumed it was Man Utd. Could be others too.


  • #153
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Keith... just another little gentle reminder seeing as you ignored the last one...
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Well done on the title win Celtic.

    I may as well take this time to remind you of our little wager...

    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Should you be willing to place a charity wager on the winner of this year's SPL I shall accept.
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    What charity?
    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Charity to be chosen by the winner of the bet.

    You win you nominate a charity for me to pay, I win I nominate a charity for you to pay.
    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Welcome back Keith!!! I missed you buddy!

    You gonna answer me about the bet now and try to win some money for charity or are you going to admit Celtic are going to win the league?
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    If you wish. Go for it. I will do it.
    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Good lad. €50?
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Sure.


  • #154
    Thrill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Des wrote: »
    so Keith is making stuff up then?

    HMRC will be going after all big clubs for tax avoidance among other things.


    http://www.prfire.co.uk/financial/hmrc-quiz-24-uk-football-clubs-on-luxury-benefits-received-by-top-players-kinsellatax-investigations-98708.html


    http://www.kinsellatax.co.uk/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=292&cntnt01origid=68&cntnt01returnid=68


  • #155
    premierstone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Des wrote: »
    so Keith is making stuff up then?

    Noo way ah go on out of that, Keith?? Never, next you'll be telling me that Whyte is a little dodgy, Im feckin shocked*


    *sarcasm may have been used in the above post


  • #156
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Thrill wrote: »
    :eek:

    That was known for quite a while tbh


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  • #157
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    premierstone wrote: »
    Noo way ah go on out of that, Keith?? Never, next you'll be telling me that Whyte is a little dodgy, Im feckin shocked*


    *sarcasm may have been used in the above post
    Read my post above.


  • #158
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Keith... just another little gentle reminder seeing as you ignored the last one...



    I may as well take this time to remind you of our little wager...

    I look forward to seeing what charity you choose :D


  • #159
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Assumed it was Man Utd. Could be others too.

    One can only hope!


  • #160
    premierstone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Read my post above.

    I already did, you originally stated it was Man Utd, you then back tracked and claimed you assumed it was, that is by definition making stuff up!


  • #161
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    premierstone wrote: »
    I already did, you originally stated it was Man Utd, you then back tracked and claimed you assumed it was, that is by definition making stuff up!
    :pac: One can wish..


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  • #162
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,319 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Thrill wrote: »
    James Cook @BBCJamesCook Strathclyde Police seeking urgent meeting with #Rangers' administrators to ensure policing bills will be paid. If not, can't police matches.

    Strathclyde Police have received assurances from Rangers about payment for services for the match on Saturday so looks like the game will go ahead.


  • #163
    Beefy78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Most Clubs in England will have used their VAT & PAYE obligations to pay bills - essentially using the tax man as a Bank - at one point or other. My Club have been in the Courts four or five times over the past two seasons because of it. HMRC have been pretty quick in recent times at slapping any club with a winding up order who haven't paid those responsibilities.

    If HMRC are using Rangers as a test case then I'd have thought that it suggests that other clubs may have tried to exploit this loophole that Rangers did with the Employee Benefits Trust mentioned in post #21. If they're going after Clubs who make the most use of image rights payments then it could well be all of the big boys, including Man United.


  • #164
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    :pac: One can wish..

    So what charity you going to pay as a result of your bet?


  • #165
    Orando Broom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    I look forward to seeing what charity you choose :D

    Sinn Fein.


  • #166
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Strathclyde Police have received assurances from Rangers about payment for services for the match on Saturday so looks like the game will go ahead.

    Rangers will get their money's worth this weekend!


  • #167
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,319 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Rangers administrators have said that the club failed to pay £9m in tax since the takeover in May

    http://www.mcr.uk.com/duff-amp-phelps-appointed-administrators-of-rangers-football-club.html


  • #168
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,319 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Rangers will get their money's worth this weekend!

    It'll be a fiery atmosphere alright, don't think Whyte will be going in amongst the fans like he did a few weeks back!


  • #169
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    RoryMac wrote: »
    It'll be a fiery atmosphere alright, don't think Whyte will be going in amongst the fans like he did a few weeks back!

    That will depend on whether the police do their job or not! :pac:


  • #170
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,734 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    What happens now for Rangers?


  • #171
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    They will probably start next season with a clean slate but no eurofootie. Scottish and British football is arguably better off without them but Celtic badly need them and so do Hibs. Otherwise they are in trouble next.


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  • #172
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    What happens now for Rangers?

    Paul Murray has asked for a meeting with the administrators to ask how much it would take to buy the club now.


  • #173
    NinjaK
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭NinjaK


    Heartbroken


  • #174
    ColeTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    What happens now for Rangers?

    Liquidation is a strong possibility. If the HMRC win the case then I can't see any other outcome. This would mean the club is gone. They would cease to exist.

    If this doesn't happen and they survive then they will be financially crippled for years to come. No European football for three years, most of the playing squad sold off. The whole works.

    Rangers as we know them are done.


  • #175
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    They will probably start next season with a clean slate but no eurofootie. Scottish and British football is arguably better off without them but Celtic badly need them and so do Hibs. Otherwise they are in trouble next.

    Uninformed claptrap


  • #176
    spiralism
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    As a Celtic fan i actually hope they don't fold, we can do just fine without them(it's bollocks to say we need them tbh) and would be better off in many ways but yin needs yang and all that. Not having a major rival would get boring after not too long. What i'm hoping for personally is that they stick around and struggle for the next decade or so, we get to pump them every year a few times and inflict on them what they did to us in the 90s :D


  • #177
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Rangers as we know them are done I hope.

    Fixed that for you.
    There's other options, like not the club but the company (Wavetower) being liquidated.

    Sure, there will be a few years of **** to clean up, but Rangers will not be 'done'.


  • #178
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Ye came back stronger through unsustainable spending during a period where Celtic were financially crippled and went a 'tenner for every fiver' when McCann sorted us out.


  • #179
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Keith... just another little gentle reminder seeing as you ignored the last one...



    I may as well take this time to remind you of our little wager...

    Here is an excellent charity mo chara, very worthwhile.
    The National Graves Association.
    http://www.nga.ie/
    The objectives of the Association have always been:

    To restore, where necessary, and maintain fittingly the graves and memorials of our patriot dead of every generation.

    To commemorate those who died in the cause of Irish freedom.

    To compile a record of such graves and memorials.

    They do excellent work maintaining the graves of Ireland's patriot dead, here is an example of their work:

    The grave of Castlerea Fenian John Lavin, unveiled by Maud Gonne in 1901:

    Before:

    189904_197159883641747_165309353493467_662357_5768127_n.jpg

    After:
    190268_197159856975083_165309353493467_662356_6213966_n.jpg

    They maintain and repair graves and monuments all over the country, but due to a lack of funds not all can be looked after.

    They receive no money from the government and rely on money gained from the sale of Lilly's at Easter as well as kind donations.

    I think that this would be an excellent charity for you to nominate, a very, very worthy cause. Too many graves of Irish patriots are neglected and they are desperate for money.

    I hope you nominate this charity, I'm sure we will all be delighted to see Keith's hard earned cash going towards this particular cause.

    There are loads of ways he can donate, paypal, by post etc.

    http://www.nga.ie/donate.php


  • #180
    spiralism
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Fixed that for you.
    There's other options, like not the club but the company (Wavetower) being liquidated.

    Sure, there will be a few years of **** to clean up, but Rangers will not be 'done'.

    Realistically i don't think Rangers will wind up, its only happened afaik with Gretna and Chester. Crystal Palace and Leeds were able to narrowly avert it and Rangers are a bigger entity than both. Not too big to go bust, but maybe too big and too popular to fold?

    What i do expect though(and hope), is like i said above - we inflict on you what you did to us in the 90s.


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  • #181
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Ye came back stronger through unsustainable spending during a period where Celtic were financially crippled and went a 'tenner for every fiver' when McCann sorted us out.

    I was actually talking about the early years of the club.


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