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After Hours has fallen behind in an image based web...

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    #32
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users Posts: 12,430 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Random_Name wrote: »
    You know for the tiny sum of less than 14c per day you can browse boards without banner ads, and support the site. make sure the mods have clean drinking water and enough food.

    /trocaire


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    #33
    Avada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    /trocaire

    Don't forget safe access to high quality cocaine and medium quality hookers


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    #34
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    If you could have a system whereby only people with a number of posts in AH were allowed post images then I think it would hugely re-invigorate the place.


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    #35
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    If anyone posted a picture slagging off another poster, than would be the same as abuse and Would be dealt with.


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    #36
    Ficheall
    Registered Users Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Images in AH would make it nigh on impossible to browse boards while at work.


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    #37
    LoLth
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 10,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    AH is usually likened to a chat in the pub, a sort of hodge-podge of topics given an "everyman" level of treatment. a bit of banter with friends.

    never have I seen a group of friends in a pub sit there with a stack of picture cards beside them so they can properly , and graphically, accentuate the conversation and thereby "enhance" the atmosphere...... I so want to do this next april fools, arrange a beer where we all turn up, mingle with the public and use picture cards to lolcat/meme-react to anything we overhear and then roll our eyes (or hold up a picture of this beloved character :rolleyes:) as the locals don't get our "enhanced reality" version of the pub :D

    on a more serious note: look at AH. how many threads have over 1000 replies. Pick one thread. now what size would that thread be if 1/3 of the replies contained a 100k gif ? (and 100k is a small estimate for an image). Now, how many of you, without 4G, want that transfer on your phone plan? or at home if you have a data cap on your broadband plan?

    On top of that, we know the reputation, mainly undeserved, AH gets. I say mainly because when some smartarse wants to showboat they tend to pick the largest audience and thats AH. Its bad enough with links but imagine the troll/pronbot/soapboxing image-spam magnet AH would be.

    Maybe if it were controlled. as suggested, no images until X post count or Y account age, or some combination of the two. No images over a certain size. Thats enforcable programatically. But its the mods who will have to judge the content and context and AH is already a fairly high workload with a high rate of decent-grounded-mod to quivering-pile-of-flaccid-flesh processing.

    Then we have server bandwidth to consider. yeah, I know, we have pictures elsewhere but I'd like to see traffic stats comparing visits/average data footprint between cool pics and AH , and then applying the average cool pics data load to an average day of AH traffic and see what the expected bandwidth hit would be.

    so, I wouldnt say "no. not gonna happen" but I would say "might not happen because we have all this extra stuff to consider"


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    #38
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    It must be a very condescending and bitter pub ye go to.

    What about interpretive dance?


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    #39
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    <skipping all of the other comments>

    In an Abe-Simpson-esque admission, I was the one who had images banned on After Hours. There's a large number of reasons. First and foremost was the day that I came in and logged in from work to have a look at After Hours and was greated by hundreds and hundreds and ultraporn images. And I genuinely feared for my job, considering that everything which is downloaded is logged. And without context of, "it was malicious", it would have looked in the logs like I just came into work and downloaded a few hundred MB of disturbing porn.

    Secondarily, it was 2008, and communication purely through the medium of images was the new thing. Feedback was rife with it, and AH, being hundreds of times busier, was a bit of a nightmare.

    But it's not 2008 any more. AH is a different beast, with a different crowd and more active mods. I see no reason why they can't be switched back on (pending mod agreement of course), with a few new rules slotted in about image size and content to weed out the asshats.


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    #40
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    As much as I want to post all my reaction gifs and what not, there is people worse than me out there.
    I don't want some bored gowl at home thinking it would be fun to post some porn gifs, if I'm at work.This could happen in any thread outside of after hours of course.

    But a troll like that wouldn't make it to 50 posts. Could have a limit of 200 posts? Pictures would be nice, but I wouldn't be annoyed if it was left the way it is

    Even on reddit, the original post can show a picture but the rest of the comments appear as imgur links which load if you hover over them


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    #41
    Brendan Flowers
    Registered Users Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    Why not have the option for the OP of a thread to select to enable images when they are creating a new thread?


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    #42
    o1s1n
    Registered Users Posts: 34,532 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Images in AH would make it nigh on impossible to browse boards while at work.

    Hah! I know what you mean. A lot can be said for a scaled down browser window full of text.


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    #43
    Tombi!
    Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    See that's what I dislike about it, Gowl/Seamus.
    For obvious reasons (ie very popular) AH does seem to be a ground for trolls to go to. That's clearly not the fault of the forum or anything. So combine that with people getting to post everything from lolcats (for Guapo) to obviously more serious stuff like porn or gore and we're gonna have issue.

    Still. maybe the first post could have images allowed with X amount of posts/registration time.

    The other thing is people quote. And you know people quote images. Anyone who's been on a very active forum knows this. And then you'll have the people who think it's annoying. Who then quotes the person that posted ten images and adds in "don't do this. this is annoying". If done right it'll do nothing but enhance the forum (ideally) but if done wrong or not done strict enough you're gonna have trolls being trolls.


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    #44
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Sometimes it would be great to be able to embed images in AH.

    A well thought out and strategic image can be a brilliant riposte or point but the majority of images would invariably be the pictorial equivalent of rolleyes: a remedial discursive aid for fools.


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    #45
    KomradeBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Brutal Deluxe wrote: »
    See that's what I dislike about it, Gowl/Seamus.
    For obvious reasons (ie very popular) AH does seem to be a ground for trolls to go to. That's clearly not the fault of the forum or anything. So combine that with people getting to post everything from lolcats (for Guapo) to obviously more serious stuff like porn or gore and we're gonna have issue.

    Still. maybe the first post could have images allowed with X amount of posts/registration time.

    The other thing is people quote. And you know people quote images. Anyone who's been on a very active forum knows this. And then you'll have the people who think it's annoying. Who then quotes the person that posted ten images and adds in "don't do this. this is annoying". If done right it'll do nothing but enhance the forum (ideally) but if done wrong or not done strict enough you're gonna have trolls being trolls.
    Could adjust the reply script easily I'd imagine, to change image quotes back to links (which the poster could fix-up afterwards, if it makes sense to quote images); not a bad idea to do this for the whole forum, seeing as it is something people do a lot.

    No opinion either way myself though, on allowing images.


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    #46
    padd b1975
    Registered Users Posts: 10,704 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Mark Tapley wrote: »
    What on earth does that mean?

    There's a poster who often starts The Late Late Show/Saturday Night Show threads who would perfectly fit that description.


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    #47
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭circadian


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I don't actually have any solution as i respect AH for what it is.. It's just gotten less entertaining and with no images, it's turned a bit dead compared to the rest of the net.

    That's my feedback.

    Cool story bro!


    Sadly doesn't have the same effect without pictures.


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    #48
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    AH doesn't fall behind, it just slows down sometimes to catch its breath a bit.


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    #49
    AndonHandon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    Posting links to images is almost the same thing but at least there is the option to avoid downloading it when on a phone.


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    #50
    Soft Falling Rain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    SilverScreen wrote: »
    I'd actually prefer pages and pages of lolcats over the pages and pages of clueless, ignorant posts that I associate with AH.

    You must like inflicting misery on yourself so.


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    #51
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,585 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    I like AH in its non picture format. If people think that's a reason why it's "a bit dead compared to the rest of the net" then that seems to be a good thing as people who are only interested in posting pointless pictures are going elsewhere.

    Given AH traffic, I can't see how most threads won't descend into a "who can post the funniest or most insulting picture" without contributing anything original to the thread.

    Just my 2c

    I'm old though so my opinion doesnt count anymore. Damn young people!


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    #52
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    faceman wrote: »
    I like AH in its non picture format. If people think that's a reason why it's "a bit dead compared to the rest of the net" then that seems to be a good thing as people who are only interested in posting pointless pictures are going elsewhere.

    Given AH traffic, I can't see how most threads won't descend into a "who can post the funniest or most insulting picture" without contributing anything original to the thread.

    Just my 2c

    I'm old though so my opinion doesnt count anymore. Damn young people!
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    #53
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Every thread in AH
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    #54
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Images are fun, let me get many more and post them here for your enjoyment.
    In between my postings other text posts will simply be drowned out.


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    #55
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


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    #56
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


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