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When did you realise you were a non believer

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    Long time ago now: read a lot about religion and religions. Put that with growing knowledge ie experiential knowledge of people and people in society and eventually the whole thing just fell away. Incredibly liberating to know that I had seen through the whole load of tosh. Having a knowledge of theology helped enormously to understand the stuff from within and once you do that you see it clearly. I'm amazed, truly amazed, at people of my advanced years who still believe or say they do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Guys i will never understand the amount of these threads,I NEVER REMEMBER BELIEVING AND I DONT CARE!

    You must really feel hurt and let down by the fact that you no longer believe in god ffs!!!

    Santa aint real either...get over it!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    Guys i will never understand the amount of these threads,I NEVER REMEMBER BELIEVING AND I DONT CARE!

    You must really feel hurt and let down by the fact that you no longer believe in god ffs!!!

    Santa aint real either...get over it!!!

    WELL DON'T OPEN THE GOD-DAMNED THREADS THEN!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Sclosages wrote: »
    WELL DON'T OPEN THE GOD-DAMNED THREADS THEN!!!

    But do you feel hurt and let down? With the thousands of posts on this issue i have never heard anyone say that they were and if not what do you get out of posting about the subject?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    But do you feel hurt and let down? With the thousands of posts on this issue i have never heard anyone say that they were and if not what do you get out of posting about the subject?

    No. I feel lightened. Rather than enlightened.
    Same as I get from posting about anything. Should I be getting something out of my posts?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Sclosages wrote: »
    No. I feel lightened. Rather than enlightened.
    Same as I get from posting about anything. Should I be getting something out of my posts?

    Of course why else would you post?


  • Registered Users Posts: 304 ✭✭The Domonator


    Looking back, I think it began at puberty. I never really subscribed to notion that a god exists so I never took religion seriously. But I began reading books (including the bible) and they opened my eyes. I'm never afraid to say to people that I'm an Atheist but I keep it to myself (mostly). I only turn on Anti-Theist mode when someone tries to lecture me on god and religion in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭Yogosan


    I was around four. I remember myself and my, at the time, 5 year old brother snook down stairs and found my parents and older sibling wrapping the presents. I guess we always had a suspicion he wasn't real, otherwise we wouldn't have snook down stairs to catch him in the act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    When the reports on the abuse came out and all the cover ups that came with it.
    I thought how can there be a supreme being that we are told to follow without question.
    I have come to the realisation that the religions were just a man made thing to keep people in check


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭RikuoAmero


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    But do you feel hurt and let down? With the thousands of posts on this issue i have never heard anyone say that they were and if not what do you get out of posting about the subject?

    Yes in a sense. Those of us who grew up religious were being told, in most cases, left right and center that this one religion is true, here are the facts about it, Jesus died for your sins, Abraham was tested by God etc etc.
    This was done by people close to us, parents, teachers, relatives, friends. So when we eventually left the religion, we felt let down by the people peddling these falsehoods. There they were, for years at a time, teaching us something as if it were true that had no good evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I felt let down because my parents never really believed the whole Catholic hoo ha. They used contraception, they don't oppose ivf, they've said there's nothing wrong with being gay and my mum especially never liked the male domination of the church. So they didn't really follow any of the teachings but did the roll call of sacraments because they said it made life easier and because it didn't occur to them not to do them. I wish I'd never felt the need to make up sins as a seven year old or been brainwashed into feeling guilty about perfectly natural things. Thankfully my children won't be put through any of the nonsense I was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭jaffusmax


    lazygal wrote: »
    Thankfully my children won't be put through any of the nonsense I was.

    Religion is being bred out of us as a species through evolutionary processes, actually knowing exactly how the world operates is more advantages then thinking a supernatural bloke in the clouds waves a wand as the Pope recently phrased it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭RikuoAmero


    jaffusmax wrote: »
    Religion is being bred out of us as a species through evolutionary processes, actually knowing exactly how the world operates is more advantages then thinking a supernatural bloke in the clouds waves a wand as the Pope recently phrased it!

    Actually, the pope said the reverse. He said God isn't a supernatural bloke with a magic wand...despite all the magical **** that supposedly occurred according to the bibbel.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 65 ✭✭Taajsgpm


    jaffusmax wrote: »
    I was 7 or 8 and was with a group of lads whom I joined in with throwing rocks at a presbyterian church. I proudly ran home to tell mother about my great achievement. She said that she was protestant, I remember a sudden sense of WTF this stuff is complicated and ever since saw religion as something to be avoided, as for a God I was always fascinated that it was dog spelt backwards as a kid!

    I was probably around 10 when I gave up on religion. I was probably 40 when I started to get spiritual . I always new that Good was the right thing and Bad was wrong but had a hard time with the GOD thing. I feel Love is the only way, we feel that naturally and we know to hurt another is wrong, where God comes into that or what God could be, who the Hell knows


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭CantonasCollar


    Being from Northern Ireland I could never understand as a kid how both sides worshipped God, and he allowed each side to kill the other. It wasn't until I was in my early teens that I finally gave it any thought, and when I did it just made no sense whatsoever.

    It amazes me that people in this day and age can't see that God is no more credible than Santa, the tooth fairy, or the Easter bunny.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,541 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    But do you feel hurt and let down?

    Let down by everyone I respected as a child, yes. Knowing even as a young child that you are being told bollocks but at the same time knowing that not nice things will happen to you if you question it, is not a good position to be in. There was still corporal punishment in schools until the early 80s and you could easily get a belt for questioning religion or getting a line in a prayer wrong.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    There was still corporal punishment in schools until the early 80s and you could easily get a belt for questioning religion or getting a line in a prayer wrong.
    I remember that - three of us in sixth class sent up to the headmaster at one point for forgetting the last few lines of the prayer "Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭ShowMeTheCash


    Right around the same time I stopped believing in Santa, the tooth fairy, the easter bunny and Michael Jackson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,280 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'm a non believer? F*ck...

    Just now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10



    It amazes me that people in this day and age can't see that God is no more credible than Santa, the tooth fairy, or the Easter bunny.

    Missing the point of faith there to be fair


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