Halal meat in UK prisons contain pork

So, all the people who think that the muslims (cos there aren't any jewish prisoners) are over reacting and shouldn't be fed halal in the first place, how do you feel about them being lied to. I do believe that they should be entitled to certain dietry requirements, but that certainly doesn't mean either way that it's ok to give them food and tell them it's cosher/halal

pirelli wrote: »

Your an idiot. Poor people go to jail for being poor. People go to jail for protesting against immoral acts of goverment, for protesting against war's. People go to jail for using marijuana for medical purposes. Many innocent people go to jail. People go to jail for failure to have money to pay debt. In fact a massive proportion of people who been sentenced to prison in Ireland during the recession was for failure to pay a debt.

Your an idiot.

So Pirelli,.....do any criminals end up in Jail ?

Are these Jails you write of,full to brimming with totally innocent folk deprived of their liberty by an uncaring State Security apparatus ?

Perhaps if you were a business person who could not get payment of a debt,and had to embark upon a hugely expensive legal process to belatedly secure that payment,you might just have a different perception ?

Yes I would agree that some innocent people end up in Jail,but I would disagree with your assertion that it is many.

I presume this makes me an idiot also..?

AlekSmart wrote: »

Crikey Grayson,you're opening up some can o worms there....NO Jewish Prisoners ?...or is it no Jewish prisoners givin out about being fed Pork scratchins ?

Perhaps worth a bit of debate in itself ?

Mind you,on the greater issue of this Prisoners Dietary requirements debate,it's only logical conclusion is to have a poll of Prisoners Dietary Requirements when they are being processed (Boom Boom ).

This would be as part of a wide ranging review of Prison Services so as to ensure that NO prisoner would have their basic dietary rights defiled in the alledged manner now being suggested.

This would also have the knock-on effect of providing employment for currently uneployed non-incarcerated Catering Staff as the new regime would require a massive expansion of the catering system itself.

It's a win-win situation IMO.....is'nt it ?

Are they halal worms?

AlekSmart wrote: »

Crikey Grayson,you're opening up some can o worms there....NO Jewish Prisoners ?...or is it no Jewish prisoners givin out about being fed Pork scratchins ?

Perhaps worth a bit of debate in itself ?

Mind you,on the greater issue of this Prisoners Dietary requirements debate,it's only logical conclusion is to have a poll of Prisoners Dietary Requirements when they are being processed (Boom Boom ).

This would be as part of a wide ranging review of Prison Services so as to ensure that NO prisoner would have their basic dietary rights defiled in the alledged manner now being suggested.

This would also have the knock-on effect of providing employment for currently uneployed non-incarcerated Catering Staff as the new regime would require a massive expansion of the catering system itself.

It's a win-win situation IMO.....is'nt it ?

The bit highlighted was sarcasm. Because most people were yammering on about muslims rather than jewish and muslims.
Being against jewish rights can be interpreted as anti semetic whereas being anti muslims is a bit more acceptable. Although both are semetic races so being anti arab is being anti semite too.

Anyways.... I believe religion is a load of toss. But it's here and not about to disappear anytime soon. And i believe we should be able to show some tolerance. Prisoners should obviously be given a diet that is medically safe,. No snickers bars for those who have nut alergies. But after that we should do the basics for any of the major religions. If you belong to a little cult yyou just invented so you can get steak and chips 7 days a week, feck off. But if you're hindu, muslim etc... We should be able to make some leeway.

They are in there for a reason. Leave em starve if the wont eat it. Their beliefs in a man in the sky should have no bearing on what the state feeds the criminals. Them included, just tell em it's halal and away you go.

CptMackey wrote: »

They are in there for a reason. Leave em starve if the wont eat it. Their beliefs in a man in the sky should have no bearing on what the state feeds the criminals. Them included, just tell em it's halal and away you go.

A quote from the Sacred Book of Laurence by any chance ?

honest opinion on this is,theyre in prison and forego their freedoms to be there.
the only diet that shoud be supported shoud be for special needs/medical needs, religeon is a choice that adults choose to believe in,diets for religeous reasons in prisons is special treatment and shoud not be allowed,if people do not like not having access to foods based on a belief they have then they shoud never have done what they did to get themselves in there in the first place.
they shoud be allowed to practice their religeon but not have special treatment/choice over it,in prison they shoud be equals in that respect.


a user says in this thread its not ok if someone said steak and chips was their dietry needs as part of some religeon they made up but that main religeons such as islam shoud have their dietry needs met.
who is to say the older religeons are really any more real than someone coming up with one in recent times,with steak and chips as the diet need and a bible written?

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

.Last edited by Miss Lockhart; Today at 20:08. Reason: I have no idea how that got in this thread considering I've never even seen this thread before?!

the post coud have been jacked onto this thread by xenu; the alien ma$cot of $cientology, as they dont get name dropped on any religeon thread unless its to do with cults,and poor xenu is probably p-sed off that he gets less rep that john travolta.

also sounds like may have left the account open on some computer and someone else has used it,if it has come from a different location it will have a different IP address associated with the post and if it has come from a different computer on the same network it woud have a different mac address asociated with it,maybe mods coud check if ask nicely.