Parliamentary Questions

Sparks · 28-03-2006 4:50pm

More questions. Rather specific ones, you'd wonder is someone in Wexford looking to set up a newspaper story?

*426. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 in the Gorey district, County Wexford; and if he will make a statement on the matter.— Paul Kehoe. [12149/06]

*427. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 in the New Ross district, County Wexford; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Paul Kehoe. [12150/06]

*428. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 in the Wexford district, County Wexford; and if he will make a statement on the matter.— Paul Kehoe. [12151/06]

*435. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of times a year members of An Garda Sı´ocha´na from each County were trained to use firearms; what the training entails; the number of firearms which were used in each training session in the years 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Paul Kehoe. [12158/06]

*436. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of computer courses members of An Garda Sı´ocha´na have gone on to train themselves how to use the PULSE system (details supplied); and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Paul Kehoe. [12159/06]

*437. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of members of An Garda Sı´ocha´na (details supplied) who were registered, trained and licensed to carry and use firearms in each year from 1997 to 2005; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Paul Kehoe. [12160/06]

*442. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 (details supplied) in County Wexford. — Paul Kehoe. [12165/06]

Sparks · 30-03-2006 12:17pm

And some answers:

410. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of members of the Garda Síochána in the Enniscorthy district, County Wexford who were registered, trained and licensed to carry and use firearms in each of the years from 1997 to 2005; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12133/06]

411. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of members of the Garda Síochána in the New Ross district, County Wexford who were registered, trained and licensed to carry and use firearms in each of the years from 1997 to 2005; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12134/06]

412. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of members of the Garda Síochána in the Wexford district, County Wexford who were registered, trained and licensed to carry and use fire-arms in each of the years from 1997 to 2005; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12135/06]

437. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of members of the Garda Síochána (details supplied) who were registered, trained and licensed to carry and use firearms in each year from 1997 to 2005; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12160/06]

Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I propose to take Questions Nos. 410 to 412, inclusive, and 437 together.

The number of gardaí who carry arms on duty at any particular time is an operational matter for the commissioner. Instruction governing the use of firearms and practical tactical training is provided for each firearm on issue to the Garda Síochána. Members must achieve the necessary skills and standards to meet the aims and objectives for each firearms course. There is also an ongoing annual re-certification programme, which includes refresher training.

Members of the Garda Síochána who successfully complete the relevant firearms training course are issued with a certificate of competency in the particular firearm. In order to carry a firearm on duty, the member’s chief superintendent must issue the member with a firearm authorisation card. I am informed by the Garda authorities that the total number of firearms cards issued for the year ending 31 December 2005 was 3,631.

Garda management states that for security and operational reasons it is not Garda policy to disclose the number of members of the Garda Síochána who are registered, trained and licensed to carry and use firearms at District level, as requested by the Deputy.

426. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 in the Gorey district, County Wexford; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12149/06]

427. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 in the New Ross district, County Wexford; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12150/06]

428. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 in the Wexford district, County Wexford; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12151/06]

442. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of robberies and aggravated burglaries where firearms were used which were reported; the number which were detected in the years 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 (details supplied) in County Wexford. [12165/06]

Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I propose to take Questions Nos. 426, 427, 428 and 442 together. I am informed by the Garda authorities that the following table provides the total number of robbery and aggravated burglary offences where a firearm was used, recorded and detected in the Garda districts of Wexford, New Ross, Gorey and Enniscorthy for the years 2002-05. I am pleased to note that the table shows a reduction of 37.5% in offences recorded, where a firearm was used in the districts concerned, from 2004-05.

The introduction of the PULSE computer system by the Garda Síochána in 1999 has led to more complete and comprehensive recording of crimes reported than was previously the case. The figures provided for 2000 and 2001 are incomplete due to the phased implementation of PULSE. The first full year captured is 2002 and is a more accurate base year to use.

It should be borne in mind that any interpretation of the crime figures should factor in the increase in our population in the past ten years. In 1995, with a population of almost 3.6 million people, there were 29 crimes per 1,000 of the population. In 2005, with a population of over 4.1 million, there were 24.6 crimes per 1,000 of the population, a reduction of 4.4 crimes per 1,000 of the population. To put this in context, during the two full years of the rainbow coalition government, with a population of 600,000 less than at present, the headline crime figures were as follows: 1995 - 102,484; 1996 - 100,785.

I propose bringing forward a range of measures to strengthen the law governing the control of firearms in the Criminal Justice Bill 2004, which is currently before the House. These new measures include increases in fines and penalties generally for offences under the Firearms Acts and the creation of mandatory minimum sentences, of between five and ten years, for certain firearms offences, including possession of a firearm in suspicious circumstances, possession of firearm with criminal intent, possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life or cause serious injury to property, possession of a firearm while hijacking a vehicle, and use or production of a firearm to resist arrest.

In this context I also propose to introduce a statutory basis for an amnesty during which firearms may be surrendered to the Garda Síochána before the proposed new penalties and minimum mandatory sentences are introduced. This will enable those in possession of firearms, who are not in compliance with the legal requirements, to regularise their position, and thus enable the Garda Síochána to concentrate on more serious offenders.

Figures provided for 2005 are provisional, operational and liable to change.

Robbery and aggravated burglary offences where a firearm was used, recorded and detected for the Garda districts of Gorey, Enniscorthy, Wexford and New Ross for the years 2002-05
2005 2004 2003 2002
Garda district Rec Det Rec Det Rec Det Rec Det
Gorey 3 2 5 2 1 1 1 1
Enniscorthy 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1
Wexford 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0
New Ross 1 1 1 0 2 1 0 0
Total 5 3 8 2 4 3 2 2

435. Mr. Kehoe asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of times a year members of the Garda Síochána from each county were trained to use firearms; what the training entails; the number of firearms used in each training session in the years 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12158/06]

Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I have been informed by the Garda authorities that all members of the Garda Síochána who are authorised to carry a firearm are required to attend refresher training three times per year. Each Garda division is required to ensure that all members authorised to carry firearms meet the three times per year training commitment. I have been further informed that the training entails a one-day refresher course where each member must discharge ammunition and demonstrate his or her ability to handle the firearm safely and show competency in cleaning and maintaining it. Each Garda member must train on the type of firearm he or she is authorised to carry.

The information requested by the Deputy relating to the number of firearms used in each training session in the years 2000 to 2005, inclusive, is not readily available in the detail sought and can only be obtained by a disproportionate expenditure of Garda time and resources.

Sparks · 16-05-2006 11:54am

A few more questions today, at least one of which (451) we've asked before and been told that the answers aren't available as the gardai don't track whether or not a firearm used in a crime was ever licenced...

*450. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of legally held firearms here; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Billy Timmins. [18434/06]
*451. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of legally held firearms that were found to be used in crimes here in 2005. — Billy Timmins. [18435/06]
*452. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of offences committed here in 2005 which involved the use of a firearm; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Billy Timmins. [18436/06]

*454. To ask the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if he will respond to correspondence (details supplied) concerning licensed firearm certificate holders; and the number of those certificate holders who have been charged under the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act 1990. — Finian McGrath. [18495/06]

Rovi · 16-05-2006 12:28pm

Sparks wrote:

A few more questions today, at least one of which (451) we've asked before and been told that the answers aren't available as the gardai don't track whether or not a firearm used in a crime was ever licenced...

Would it be cynical of me to postulate that if these 'unavailable' figures supported the 'anti' viewpoint, they would have been collated and made available long ago?

Perhaps not, but then...

Vegeta · 16-05-2006 12:49pm

well its something that i've wanted to know for ages anyway so i'll be happy either way to know

Rew · 16-05-2006 12:53pm

Ill put money on the figures will show that shooters are extreamly law abiding people.

WallysWorld · 16-05-2006 5:45pm

Sparks wrote:

A few more questions today, at least one of which (451) we've asked before and been told that the answers aren't available as the gardai don't track whether or not a firearm used in a crime was ever licenced...

tbh I think its unbelievable that they dont check whether a firearm used in a crime has been licenced, youd think it would be basic procedure, for example if the criminal is unknown and they are in possesion of a weapon found at a crime scene? chances are its not licenced but whos to know?

Rovi · 16-05-2006 6:07pm

WallysWorld wrote:

...youd think it would be basic procedure...

Which is what leads me to suspect that such statistics wouldn't support 'a certain viewpoint,' and they are thus 'unavailable.'

Perhaps I'm being unkind, and it is merely old fashioned 'un-joined up thinking,' and such data really isn't collected; but really, it'd be utterly staggering to think that guns seized from criminals or at crime scenes aren't checked against PULSE.

Rew · 16-05-2006 6:16pm

They are I think, one board member here mentioned being contacted by the Gardí after his stolen shotgun turned up at a crime scene as far as I remember.

WallysWorld · 16-05-2006 6:29pm

I think this is important, from my limited enough knowledge of the subject I would think that if they want to restrict licencing of various larger caliber firearms here then they should need to prove that these firearms are with some degree of regularity in crimes, which I doubt.

jaycee · 16-05-2006 7:22pm

I would think that if they want to restrict licencing of various larger caliber firearms here then they should need to prove that these firearms are with some degree of regularity in crimes

Pointless argument..In reality ..
They don't need to prove anything .:(

What's the odd's of some getting killed by an air pistol ..nil , unless you used
it as a hammer . Didn't stop them being "Unavailable" for years.
Logic and facts have got very little to do with it.

WallysWorld · 16-05-2006 7:39pm

I know the word im using though is they should have to prove it, in reality your probably right if they want to ban something its likely they will go ahead and do it regardless of the facts.

Sparks · 18-05-2006 11:56am

I hate reading between the lines when what you read looks like this:

450. Mr. Timmins asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of legally held firearms here; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [18434/06]

451. Mr. Timmins asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of legally held firearms that were found to be used in crimes here in 2005. [18435/06]

Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I propose to take Questions Nos. 450 and 451 together.

I am informed by the Garda authorities that the information requested is not readily available. I will write to the Deputy with the information as soon as I obtain it from the Gardaí.

452. Mr. Timmins asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of offences committed here in 2005 which involved the use of a firearm; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [18436/06]

Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I am informed by the Garda authorities that the total number of headline offences recorded in the year 2005 which involved the use of a firearm was 536 and the total detected was 214. The figures provided are provisional, operational and liable to change.

In relation to firearms in general, I propose bringing forward a range of measures to strengthen the law governing the control of firearms in the Criminal Justice Bill, 2004, which is currently before the Select Committee on Justice, Equality, Defence and Women’s Rights. These new measures include increases in fines and penalties generally for offences under the Firearms Acts and the creation of mandatory minimum sentences, of between five and ten years, for certain firearms offences, including possession of a firearm in suspicious circumstances, possession of a firearm with criminal intent, possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life or cause serious injury to property, possession of a firearm while hijacking a vehicle, and use or production of a firearm to resist arrest.

In this context I also propose to introduce a statutory basis for an amnesty during which firearms may be surrendered to the Garda Síochána before the proposed new penalties and minimum mandatory sentences are introduced. This will enable those in possession of firearms, who are not in compliance with the legal requirements, to regularise their position, and thus enable the Garda Síochána to concentrate on more serious offenders.

And I'm still trying to figure this one out:

435. Mr. Bruton asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the figures for the number of licensed firearm certificate holders who have been charged under the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act. [18371/06]

Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I am informed by the Garda authorities that since the computerisation of the firearms licensing system in January, 2000 their records show that proceedings have been brought against 8,265 licensed firearm certificate holders for offences under the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act, 1990. Prior to that date the firearms licensing system was a manual system and the information sought by the Deputy for the years prior to 2000 could only be obtained by the disproportionate expenditure of Garda time and resources.

17HMR · 18-05-2006 12:08pm

Proceedings under the FOW Act against 8265 licence holders since 1990....
Surely that can't be right ?

Vegeta · 18-05-2006 12:33pm

so rounding down that makes it 3 people a day for the last 6 years, i don't believe that for a second and would like a break down of those figures

Am i the only one who thinks he and his researchers are tools

civdef · 18-05-2006 12:42pm

Those numbers sound dodgy.

Rovi · 18-05-2006 12:44pm

17HMR wrote:

Proceedings under the FOW Act against 8265 licence holders since 1990....
Surely that can't be right ?

I think that's 8265 proceedings since January 2000, under the 1990 Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act.

As Vegeta says, that's 3.7 proceedings/day for 6 years, and I too would love to see a breakdown of the 'offences' involved.

Vegeta · 18-05-2006 12:46pm

who can i contact to ask about those figures

I am sick of that mans ignorance

Vegeta · 18-05-2006 12:49pm

Rovi wrote:

I think that's 8265 proceedings since January 2000, under the 1990 Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act.

As Vegeta says, that's 3.7 proceedings/day for 6 years, and I too would love to see a breakdown of the 'offences' involved.

and even at that we're only half way through 2006 so its more like 4.1 people a day for the last 5.5 years

civdef · 18-05-2006 12:58pm

who can i contact to ask about those figures

I am sick of that mans ignorance

I don't think personalising things will help much, all the Minister can work with is the figures he's given. I think the shooing organisations will agree that McDowell seems to be more amenable to shooting issues than some of his predecessors.

Anyway, talk to some opposition TD's, they like nothing better than being able to point out flaws in stuff a Minister reads to the Dail.

Vegeta · 18-05-2006 1:08pm

civdef wrote:

I don't think personalising things will help much, all the Minister can work with is the figures he's given. I think the shooing organisations will agree that McDowell seems to be more amenable to shooting issues than some of his predecessors.

Anyway, talk to some opposition TD's, they like nothing better than being able to point out flaws in stuff a Minister reads to the Dail.

I am not using the term ignorant as many people now use it i.e. an attack of his character but as its true meaning, uneducated or uninformed.

it is his job as minister to be as well informed as possible.

Surely he read 8265 and thought "Jaysus 4 people a day for the last 5.5 years, that's higher than i would have thought"

Sparks · 20-12-2006 4:52pm

Dec 6

152. Mr. English asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform his plans to enhance Garda training in order that additional members of An Garda Síochána will be trained in the use of firearms; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [41836/06]
153. Mr. English asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of gardaí that have completed training in the use of firearms, with a breakdown for each Garda division; if he is satisfied with these numbers; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [41837/06]
158. Mr. J. O’Keeffe asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when dedicated firearms training facilities will be made available to members of An Garda Síochána holding firearms certificates. [41851/06]

Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I propose to take Questions Nos. 152, 153 and 158 together.

I have been informed by Garda authorities that the total number of Gardaí that have completed training in the use of firearms, as at the 4th December, 2006 was 2942 (all ranks). Garda management state that they are satisfied that the members trained meet their current operational needs.

I have been further informed by the Garda Authorities that a Garda Working Group on Firearms Training, recommended that not more than 10% of the uniformed divisional strength, in addition to the detective branch, should be authorised/trained in firearms. Any consideration to increase the number of trained members in any Division takes account of the recommendation of the Assistant Commissioner for the Region concerned.

A number of avenues are currently being pursued in order to provide An Garda Síochána with dedicated firearms training facilities. These include:

Replacement of the existing firearms range at Garda Headquarters in Phoenix Park, Dublin, with a new underground facility,

Development of Firearms Training capabilities at the recently purchased Dromard House near the Garda Training College at Templemore, and

Examination by OPW of Garda proposals to develop a facility which would serve the wider needs of the Dublin Metropolitan Region and Eastern Seaboard.

The timescale for the delivery of these initiatives has yet to be determined. In the interim, military ranges are being utilised to provide the requisite training for Garda personnel.

Garda management inform me that the refurbishment of two rooms at the firing range at Garda Headquarters, as a temporary measure, to accommodate the Virtual Firearms Automated Training Systems (FATS) and the delivery of the Virtual Firearms Automated Training Systems are both scheduled for this month.

Sparks · 31-01-2007 6:02pm

From today:

*238. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of homicides in the State involving the use of firearms from 1 June 2002 to 1 December 2006; the number of the homicides involving firearms committed during this period, that have resulted in successful convictions; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Richard Bruton. [43852/06]

*280. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the level of training provided to An Garda Siochana, who participate in firearm courses; the number of hours of training; if there are plans in place to reduce the number of hours for participants who participate in this specific course; if new weapons are currently being introduced into the Force which require additional training; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Richard Bruton. [1361/07]

*458. To ask the Ta´ naiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the thinking and philosophy behind the kind of firearms proposed to be restricted for licensed firearm holders; the reasons therefore; and if he will make a statement on the matter. —Jim O’Keeffe. [2867/07]

Kramer · 31-01-2007 6:44pm

*458. To ask the Ta´ naiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the thinking and philosophy behind the kind of firearms proposed to be restricted for licensed firearm holders; the reasons therefore; and if he will make a statement on the matter. —Jim O’Keeffe. [2867/07] :

Good stuff there from Jim O'Keeffe :cool: .

civdef · 31-01-2007 7:24pm

Given the history of Deputy O'Keefe's previous Dail statements on firearms licencing, i woulsn't be so confident.

Sparks · 01-02-2007 10:30am

Indeed. It was against him that the Minister wound up arguing for a more lenient firearms act during the CJB debates...

Sparks · 01-02-2007 4:48pm

Answers up:

238. Mr. Bruton asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of homicides in the State involving the use of firearms from 1 June 2002 to 1 December 2006; the number of the homicides involving firearms committed during this period that have resulted in successful convictions; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [43852/06]

Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I am informed by the Garda authorities that the following table shows the numbers of murder offences recorded where a firearm was used and the numbers of detections, proceedings commenced and convictions in respect of those murders between 1 June, 2002 and 1 December 2006. It is anticipated that the number of convictions obtained will increase as the number of proceedings commenced are finalised by the courts.

Operation Anvil is central to the strategy of the Garda Síochána in combating serious crime and in particular murder. The Operation, which commenced in the Dublin Metropolitan Region in May, 2005 and was subsequently extended nationwide at my request, has proved to be very successful in disrupting the criminal activities of a number of key criminal gangs. It has resulted in a number of high-profile arrests and the acquisition of intelligence on the movements of criminals. Notable improvements have been achieved in the recorded number of incidents of crime being targeted by the Operation. In particular, I am pleased to note the increase of 34% in detections of possession of firearms in the fourth quarter of 2006 which I believe has contributed to the reduction of 3.4% in discharges of firearms. I believe that Operation Anvil has also contributed to the increase in that quarter of detections of offences of possession of drugs for sale or supply which is closely associated with many murders using firearms.

In addition to the introduction of Operation Anvil, the Garda Commissioner in November 2005 augmented the Organised Crime Unit at the National Bureau of Criminal Investigation with an additional 55 Garda members to address the problem of criminal gang activity. Enforcement by the Unit has resulted in further firearms being seized and a number of persons arrested, thereby disrupting their criminal activities. There has also been an increase in Garda monitoring and targeting of individuals and groups involved in armed crime in particular. In December last, the Commissioner allocated an additional 20 officers to the Bureau.

A wide range of provisions to combat gun crime were introduced in the Criminal Justice Act, 2006. With effect from 1 November, mandatory minimum sentences, of between five and ten years, came into effect for certain firearms offences, including possession of a firearm in suspicious circumstances, possession of firearm with criminal intent, possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life or cause serious injury to property, possession of a firearm while hijacking a vehicle, and use or production of a firearm to resist arrest.

Recent events, particularly the deaths of wholly innocent members of the public caught up in internecine gangland conflict, have made it tragically clear that what has been achieved already must be built on so that we can protect our society from the dangers in our midst. A Government can have no greater priority than the safety of its people and it is against that background that we have taken a series of decisions which involve a comprehensive programme of measures to ensure that the full resources of the State are brought to bear as never before against the activities of those who have showed a callous disregard for the rule of law.

On 19 December last, the Government agreed my proposals for an unprecedented package of measures which includes:

· A further increase of 1,000 in the strength of An Garda Síochána to bring the total to 15,000 over the next three years;

· Sanction for 300 additional civilian administrative support posts for An Garda Síochána;

· The recruitment of the 7 senior civilian posts recommended in the recent reports from Kathleen O’Toole and Maurice Hayes;

· An increase in the retirement age for Gardaí, Sergeants and Inspectors from 57 to 60;

· A proportionate increase in the targeted strength of the Garda Reserve from 900 to 1500;

· Increased staffing for the Forensic Science Laboratory, the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions and the Courts Service;

· No limit on funds available for the Witness Protection Programme.

I will shortly be putting legislative proposals to Government. I am informed by the Garda authorities that murders involving the use of firearms tend to have lower conviction rates than other murders. This is not unique to Ireland. I am assured by the Garda Commissioner that the highest priority is given by An Garda Síochána to the investigation of murders and the detection of those responsible.

Number of Homicide Offences where a Firearm was Used (Recorded, Detected, Proceedings Commenced and Convictions) from 1 June 2002 to 1 December 2006
Recorded Detected Proceedings Commenced Convictions
2006*(up to 1 December) 20 7 4 0
2005 21 4 2 1
2004 9 8 5 4
2003 20 11 4 2
2002(from 1 June) 5 3 2 1

* figures are provisional, operational and liable to change

Sparks · 01-02-2007 4:50pm

And here (Jim O'Keefe's question isn't up yet):

280. Mr. Bruton asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the level of training provided to An Garda Síochána, who participate in firearm courses; the number of hours of training; if there are plans in place to reduce the number of hours for participants who participate in this specific course; if new weapons are currently being introduced into the Force which require additional training; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [1361/07]

Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I have requested the information sought by the Deputy from the Garda authorities. I will be in contact with the Deputy when this information is to hand.

Sparks · 01-02-2007 6:12pm

Jim O'Keefe's answer's now up:

458. Mr. J. O’Keeffe asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the thinking and philosophy behind the kind of firearms proposed to be restricted for licensed firearm holders; the reasons therefore; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [2867/07]

Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): Section 29 of the Criminal Justice Act, 2006 inserts a new section 2B into the Firearms Act, 1925 which provides that I may, in the interests of public safety and security, by order declare specific firearms and ammunition as “restricted firearms” by reference to their category, calibre, working mechanism, muzzle energy and description.

Officials of my Department are currently in discussions with An Garda Síochána and representatives of the main shooting organisations regarding the types of firearm which may be “restricted”. Following these discussions the statutory instrument, which will deem certain firearms as “restricted firearms” for the purposes of the section 2B of the 1925 Act, will be finalised. It is important to note that firearms deemed to be “restricted” may be licensed by the Garda Commissioner and any person wishing to obtain such a licence may apply to the Commissioner for a firearms certificate. The Commissioner may issue a firearms certificate for a “restricted firearm” where he is satisfied that the person fully complies with the conditions, set out in section 4 of the 1925 Act, for the grant of a “restricted firearm” certificate.

The purpose of designating certain firearms as “restricted firearms” is to ensure that, in the interests of public safety and security, certain firearms may only licensed following careful examination by the Garda Commissioner and where specific conditions are met.

Nice little non-answer, that.

BryanL · 01-02-2007 11:35pm

palimentary questions?are w being run by westminster again?
time for the old Lee Enfields again
Bryan

civdef · 02-02-2007 12:12am

I suppose it's too much for you to realise that Bunracht Na hÉireann does provide for a parliment then...

Begone.

BryanL · 02-02-2007 12:31pm

why isn't it Dail questions in the title then?
Bryan

Sparks · 02-02-2007 1:12pm

Because they get referred to as parlimentary questions by those working in there. Also because it lets me do this without needing a new thread:

From the House of Commons, October 24 2005:

Mr. Peter Robinson: To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many legal gun dealers there are in Northern Ireland; and if he will list them. [19463]

Mr. Woodward: The following information has been supplied by the PSNI.

There are 132 gun dealers listed on our records.

A Blue Ltd.
A C J Engineering
A. J. S. Repairs
Ace Products (Belfast) Ltd.
Agnew, J.A & Co
Air Tec
Anderson, C.A. & Co
Ashley Gun Sales & Repairs
Bailie, E
Ballycarrickmaddy Shooting School
Beattie, T & Son
Bloomfield Guns & Tackle
Boston Outdoor Sports
Braddell, Joseph & Son Ltd.
Brown, S.W.
Burke, H & Sons Ltd.
C C Shooting Supplies
C F Beattie & Son (F'arm & Amm)
Cahoon Brothers
Carlisle, R & R
Carlisle, T. J.
Carson, R. J. K.
Cassells, E.J. & Son
Coburn, J& Son Ltd.
Conway Bros. (Vision) Ltd.
Coote's (Builders Merchants) Ltd.
Costcutters
Cottage Guns & Tackle
Country Sports
Country Sports & Tackle
Craig, B& Co. Ltd.
Crawford, R & Co.
Daly's, M
Dennett Game Services
Derry Gonnelly Autos
Devlin Countryside Supplies
Dickson, J.J.
Divers Guns & Tackle
Dowler, F. Ltd.
Dunhill Sports Supplies
Fernvale Country Sports
Field & Stream
Firearms Unlimited
Firefly
Fyffe, W. D.
Glass, T. R. G.
Graham, J. & Sons
Graham, R & Sons
Greer, T & Son
Groggan Guns & Country Store
Guns & Tackle
Harkin, K. G.
Harpur, N. C.
Holden Agricultural Ltd.
Hollow Farm Shooting Grounds
Hom, Field & Stream
Houston's Country Gear
Hughes, M.T.
Hutchinson's
Irwin, S. D.
Johnston, S
Jones, W.
Kyle, P. E.
Kyle, W. J. Hardware
Lakeview Guns & Tackle
Lawrence, J.A.
Leisure & Tackle
Limavady Hardware Co.
Lock, Stock & Barrel
Lough Shore Shooting Supplies
Lough, Stock & Barrel
Loughview Guns & Ammo
Lutton, A
Lutton's Gun Repairs
Magowan, R
Martin, T. M. & Son
Maryland Country Sports
Maurice Allen Chainsaws
Mawhinney, D
Mcclimond, T
Mcconnell (Equipment) Ltd.
Mckendry, R
Mckeown, E.J.M. (Agric. & Build. Merchant)
McKerr Fieldsports
McVey Brothers
Melvin Tackle
Mid Ulster Industries
Millar, Desmond & Son
Monteith, A. A. & Sons
Moyallen Countryman
MPL Guns & Ammo
Mullen's Pet & Shooting Supplies
Murphy, W.M.
Murphy, J
Nelson's Sports Centre
Nicholas, C. J. & Sons
North Antrim Game Services
O'Neill's Country Sports
Orchard Guns
Palmer, D. H.
Palmer, R.
R R Motorcycles & Marine
R. F. D. Ltd.
Rankin, Joseph
Riverdale Sports
Robin Minnis Sports
Rod & Gun
Rod 'N' Line
Sammy's Shooting Supplies
Scott, T. J.
Sinclair, J. N. & Sons
Smyth, J.C. Sports Spec.'s
Smyth's Country Sports
Somerville, R.W.
Sports Goods & Footwear
Stewart & Gibson Ltd.
Stewart & James
Stinson The Saddler
Stringer, W
Tannyoky Guns & Ammo
Thales Air Defence Ltd.
The Belfast Firearms Company
The Countryman
The Gunshop
The Trading Post
Trap & Field Sports
Trap & Tackle
Valley Leisure & Rural Supplies
Walther Ireland
Willis Hardware & Trailers
Workman Hardware
Young Guns

Mr. Peter Robinson: To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list legal (a) gun clubs and (b) ranges in Northern Ireland. [19464]

Mr. Woodward: The following information has been supplied by the PSNI.

There are 55 authorised gun clubs and 39 authorised ranges in Northern Ireland. These are listed as follows. Where ranges comprise more than one firing range, this is identified in the table.

Authorised Clubs (at 19 October 2005)
Area 17 Air Pistol Club
Ballymena Rifle & Pistol Club
Bangor & District Small Bore Rifle Club
Bangor Gram. Sch. Com. Cadet Force Air Rifle Club
Belfast Harbour Police Rifle Club
Belfast Home Guard Rifle Club
Belfast Royal Academy Rifle Club—2390 Squadron ATC
Braken Projectile Club
Bready Air Rifle Club
Campbell College, C.C.F Rifle Club
Carrowdore & District Shooting & Recreation Club
City of Derry Rifle & Pistol Club
Clandeboye, Bangor & District U.S.C. Rifle & Pistol Club
Co Londonderry 'XB' Rifle & Pistol Club
Comber Rifle Club
Creevedonnell Air Rifle Club
Culnady Air Rifle Club
Downpatrick Rifle Club
Downshire Rifle Clu
Dungannon Rifle & Pistol Club
Dunnyboe Target Club
East Antrim Rifle & Pistol Club
Ex-Services Pistol & Rifle Club
Fortwilliam Home Guard Rifle & Pistol Club
Kells Rifle & Pistol Club
Killylea Air Rifle Club
Kirlish Rifle & Pistol Club
Laghey Small Bore Rifle & Pistol Club
Langford Lodge Sports Club
Leopold Street Rifle Club
Lisnalea Rod & Gun Club
Loughbrickland Small Bore Rifle Club
Maralin Rifle Club
Michelin Athletic Pistol & Rifle Club
Mid Antrim Rifle & Pistol Club
Moneymore Air Rifle Club
Mowillian Air Rifle Club
2nd (NI) Battalion Army Cadet Force Rifle Club
N.I. Target Sports Association
North Antrim Small Bore Rifle & Pistol Club
Omagh & District U.S.C.A Rifle Club
Omagh Scout Group Rifle Club
Orritor Rifle Club
P.S.N.I. Rifle & Pistol Club
Rockport Shooting Club
Roe Valley Rifle Club
Roe Valley Target Club
Royal School Armagh Rifle Club
Royal School Dungannon Rifle Club
Seskinore Harriers Air Pistol Club
Sherrygroom Rifle & Pistol Club
Shorts Rifle & Pistol Club
Strangford Lough W'Fowling Cons. Ass. Air Rifle Club
Ulster Rifle Association
Western Area Medical Target Shooting Club

Name of club Location of range
Bangor Grammar School Combined Cadet Force Air Rifle Club Bangor Grammar School, 13 College Avenue, Bangor BT20 5HJ

Culnady Air Rifle Club Culnady Orange Hall, Culnady Road, Upperlands, Maghera

Dungannon Shooting Federation Club Dungannon Leisure Centre, Circular Road (Basement, rear car park)

Bangor & District Small Bore Rifle Club Castle Park, Valentine Road, Bangor

Dungannon Royal School Rifle Club Dungannon Royal School Grounds

Rockport School Air Rifle Club Rockport School, Craigavad, Holywood BT180DD

Killylea Air Gun Club Cooey Orange Hall, Kennedies Road, Killylea, Co Armagh

Mowillian Air Rifle Club Moneymore, Co Londonderry

Area 17 Air Pistol Club Unit 44, Dennisons Industrial Estate, Mill Road, Ballyclare

Lisnalea Rod & Gun Club Shooting Range Entrance to disused railway tunnel, Corrinare Road, Loughgilly, Markethill

Foyle & Londonderry College Northland Road, Londonderry

County Londonderry XB Rifle Club Moneyshanare, Tobermore

Comber Rifle Club 17 Railway Street, Comber BT23 5HG
(2Xindoor ranges—1Xfirst floor—1Xground floor)
Ballygraffan Road, Comber BT23 5SU
(2Xranges—1Xindoor—1Xoutdoor)

North Antrim Small Bore Rifle Club Nissen Hut at Bellisle Road, Carncullagh Upper, Dervock, Ballymoney (2Xranges)

Bready Air Rifle Club Ballydonaghy, Clougher, Strabane
69 Dunnalong Road, Bready, Strabane

Private Range Garage at 612 Saintfield Road, Carryduff, Belfast BT8 8BL

Langford Lodge Sports Club Unit 4, Langford Lodge Industrial Estate, Largy
Road, Crumlin

Sherrygroom Rifle & Pistol Club Above a barn at Dunnahenry Road, Stewartstown

Roe Valley Rifle Club Farm yard at Tullyarmon, Limavady

Seskinore Harriers Air Pistol Club Riding for Disabled Association, Deverney Road, Arvalee, Omagh

Fortwilliam (Home Guard) Rifle & Pistol Club The Old Abattoir, Duncrue Pass, Belfast

Moneymore Air Rifle Club Orange Hall, Main Street, Moneymore, Co Londonderry

Carrowdore & District Shooting & Recreation Club Abbey Road, Carrowdore, Co Down
(3Xranges—2Xindoor—7Xoutdoor)

Ballymena Rifle & Pistol Club Loan Hill, Ballyconnelly Road, Cullybackey, Co Antrim
(2Xranges)

Kells Rifle & Pistol Club 78 Fernisky Road, Kells, Ballymena
(2Xranges—1Xindoor—1Xoutdoor)

Downshire Rifle Club Moira Road, Hillsborough
(2Xranges—1Xindoor—1Xoutdoor)

Omagh Boy Scouts Rifle Club Campsie Road, Omagh

Clandeboye Bangor & USC Rifle & Pistol Club The Borough Gymnasium, Hamilton Road, Bangor, Co Down

Laghey Rifle & Pistol Club 21A Killyneill Court, Dungannon BT71 6BN

Loughbrickland Rifle Club McBride's Corner, Moneyslane, Ballyward, Banbridge, Co Down

Duke of Abercorn Estate Range Baronscourt, Newtownstewart, Co Tyrone

Desertmartin Air Rifle Club The Orange Hall, Desertmartin

Omagh & District USCA Rifle Club Colebrooke Estate, Brookeborough, Co Fermanagh
(1Xoutdoor)
Gola, Lisbellaw, Co Fermanagh (1 x indoor)

Mid Antrim Pony Club Barn at 125 Ahoghill Road, Randalstown

Strangford Lough Wildfowlers Glenvale, Crawfordsburn Road, Newtownards

HMP Weapon Training Range NIPS, HMP Maghaberry, Lisburn, Co Antrim

East Antrim Rifle & Pistol Club 23A Sawmill Road, Ballyclare, Co Antrim
(3Xranges—2Xindoor—1Xoutdoor)

Creevedonnell Air Rifle Club Cumber Church Hall, Cregg Road, Claudy, Co Londonderry
(1Xindoor)
Curryfree Road, Curryfree, Co Londonderry (1Xindoor)

Dungannon Rifle & Pistol Club Disused sandpit at 408 Annaginny Road, Newmills, Dungannon
(4Xranges)

Sparks · 21-02-2007 2:21pm

Not related to us, but I'll bet the CJA comes up in the answer:

68. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of cases of murder in which firearms were used in respect of each year from 1998 to date in 2007; the number of such cases in which prosecutions for murder were initiated; the number of such cases where convictions were secured; if he has satisfied himself with the level of detection and conviction in such cases; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Eamon Gilmore. [6825/07]

Sparks · 16-04-2007 5:36pm

PQs down for next week:

To ask the Minister for Justice, Mr McDowell:
If he will explain why the firearms licence fee has gone up by 50% even though the three year licence means that less Garda manhours are needed to administer it compared to the previous system?

Will the minister explain why shotgun licences cost €115 for a three-year period, with each subsequent shotgun on the licence costing €30; but an air rifle licence costs €170 and can only have one air rifle on it?

Given the obvious benefit to tourism that the 2012 Olympics represent, will the Minister explain why the firearms licence costs for foreign visitors (such as those teams coming to Ireland for pre-Olympic training camps) have been increased to €57 and why no free visitors’ permit mechanism has been created to encourage the tourism that competitive target shooting represents?

Given that the proposed list of restricted firearms contains Olympic pistols will the National Target Shooting Association and other relevant sporting bodies be given an opportunity to have input into the second draft of the Statutory Instrument; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

When will the Minister be commencing the remainder of the Firearms Act 2006, given than the Criminal Justice Bill 2007 is already amending it before it's been fully commenced?

When will the Garda Commissioner's guidelines for superintendents with relation to the Firearms Act 2006 be published?

When will the firearms range inspector be appointed by the Minister?

Will the Minister comment on why several firearms ranges have already had to spend tens of thousands of euro on upgrades to comply with Garda demands for range certification despite the fact that the relevant legislation still not has not been commenced and that the range inspector still has not
been appointed?

When will the official regulations to which firing ranges must conform be published?

Will the minister give assurances that target shooters wishing to compete in international competitions who find their sporting equipment suddenly listed on the restricted list will not find themselves required to comply with draconian and onerous demands to obtain firearms certificates?

Sparks · 16-04-2007 5:40pm

Also down for next week:

If his attention has been drawn to strong concerns expressed by the National Target Shooting Association regarding recent changes to firearms legislation and licensing systems; whether he will meet the NTSA; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Vegeta · 16-04-2007 8:01pm

us non olympic shooters are doomed

dimebag249 · 16-04-2007 8:15pm

THANK YOU Vegeta. What in the name of God makes those that practice Olympic desciplines so bloody holy? How is their sport more worthy than other sports? If they started using M249s in the Olympics would they suddenly become as sacred as air pistols? "International competions"!!!??? WTF, if you're not participating in an international event you shouldn't have as much right to practice your sport or hobby?

Sparks · 16-04-2007 8:28pm

Bull. If the game's Skeet, you bring a skeet shotgun. If it's Palma, you bring a 7.62 rifle. If it's IDPA, you bring a 1911. If it's PR, you bring the big names - and the Olympics (by which I mean the Games itself, not just Olympic shooting disciplines) is about one of the biggest names tied to shooting that there is.
See, not using things like this is why we don't win the PR battles. And not winning the PR battles is why we get treated so shoddily by the Powers That Be (Who Mostly Want To Look Good In The Press Before Elections).

Do not take my word for it. Ask anyone who works in media.

Vegeta · 16-04-2007 8:52pm

yes sparks but everything you named there is an olympic event, what if I want to use one of the listed firearms for something other than an olympic discipline, will it be restricted then or not is my point

Sparks · 16-04-2007 9:02pm

How do you mean Veg? Either we can use stuff or we can't, it would be without precedent or standing to say "well, you can use fullbore pistols, but only in the ISSF centrefire standard pistol event".

Vegeta · 16-04-2007 9:27pm

Would you really put that past them Sparks. Its just a fear I have

Clare gunner · 16-04-2007 9:31pm

Would have two other points that should be asked by Ciran Cuffe.
Can the minister explain the reason for such an analomy in fees between the Republic, NI and the UK??Where in the UK and NI it is a much more difficult process to aquire a firearms cert in police time,backround checks etc.Yet they can do this within 21 days and at a fee equivlent to 77 Euros?

Also would the minister consider or ammend the act to a 3 year or 5 year liscense of One Man One Liscense system?[OMOL] as is common in the UK or NI?

Lads,Sparks is speaking from his perspective and position as sec of NTSA and sport. So he has to speak from where he is and does repersent.As far as I care, if Islamic Jihad was speaking out thru Gay Lib about their liscense hike to openly carry liscensed RPGs with a OMOL.Thats fine by me.So long as the message gets out!!!We are all gun owners in the end.And if the other organisations cant or wont be botherd speaking up,we have to use what is there.

Vegeta · 16-04-2007 9:35pm

don't get me wrong fair to play to Mark and the lads for getting those questions asked. I just wish these were asked from a hunters point of view also

Sparks · 16-04-2007 9:38pm

They may well be Veg, Des Crofton isn't exactly sitting on his hands at the moment. I just wouldn't know if the questions have been asked until they're published on Tuesday.

Sparks · 16-04-2007 9:40pm

Vegeta wrote:

Would you really put that past them Sparks. Its just a fear I have

But they'd have to be saying "you can shoot at this shape printed in this colour on a piece of paper, but not this other shape printed in this other colour on the same bit of paper". I mean, I don't think they'd spot the problem, but it'd never hold up in court and it could never be enforced.

Sparks · 23-04-2007 11:14pm

Okay, the Dail PQ list for Tuesday was just published:

*172. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason the firearms licence fee has gone up by 50% even though the three year licence means that less Garda manhours are needed to administer it compared to the previous system. — Ruairi Quinn. [14778/07]

*173. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if, in view of the fact that the proposed list of restricted firearms contains Olympic pistols, an association (details supplied) and other relevant sporting bodies will be given an opportunity to have input into the second draft of the Statutory Instrument; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Ruairi Quinn. [14779/07]

*174. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when will he be commencing the remainder of the Firearms Act 2006, in view of the fact that the Criminal Justice Bill 2007 is already amending it before it has been fully commenced. —Ruairi Quinn. [14780/07]

*175. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when the Garda Commissioner’s guidelines for superintendents with relation to the Firearms Act 2006 will be published. — Ruairi Quinn. [14781/07]

*176. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when the firearms range inspector will be appointed by the Minister. — Ruairi Quinn. [14782/07]

*177. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason several firearms ranges have already had to spend tens of thousands of euro on upgrades to comply with Garda demands for range certification in view of the fact that the relevant legislation has not been commenced and that the range inspector not been appointed. —Ruairi Quinn. [14783/07]

*178. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when the official regulations to which firing ranges must conform will be published. — Ruairi Quinn. [14784/07]

*179. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if he will give assurances that target shooters wishing to compete in international competitions who find their sporting equipment listed on the restricted list will not find themselves required to comply with draconian and onerous demands to obtain firearms certificates. — Ruairi Quinn. [14785/07]

*180. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason shotgun licences cost €115 for a three year period with each subsequent shotgun on the licence costing €30 but an air rifle licence costs €170 and can only have one air rifle on it. —Ruairi Quinn. [14786/07]

*181. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason in view of the obvious benefit to tourism that the 2012 Olympics represent, the firearms licence costs for foreign visitors have been increased to €57; and the reason no free visitors’ permit mechanism has been created to encourage the tourism that competitive target shooting represents. — Ruairi Quinn. [14787/07]

*182. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if his attention has been drawn to strong concerns expressed by an association (details supplied) regarding recent changes to firearms legislation and licensing systems; if he will meet the association; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Ruairi Quinn. [14788/07]

*188. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if he has received correspondence in relation to firearms licence fees; his plans to address this issue in early course; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Bernard J. Durkan. [14823/07]

*189. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if he has received correspondence (details supplied); his plans to address this issue in early course; and if he will make a statement on the matter. —Bernard J. Durkan. [14826/07]

*194. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason it was necessary to increase the fees for firearms licences and training licenses by so much; and his views on whether this constitutes an exorbitant and unfair expense on tens of thousands of people who participate in gun sports here. — Martin Ferris. [14866/07]

*203. To ask the Tanaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of firearms licences currently in place for each category of shotguns, rifles, pistols and other firearms; the number of firearms licences currently in place in each county; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Ruairi Quinn. [14943/07]

*249. To ask the Minister for Finance if the increases in firearms licence fees provided for in the Finance Act 2007 were recommended by the Department of Justice. Equality and Law Reform; if other submissions were considered by him in determining the rate of increase; and if he will make a statement on the matter. — Brendan Howlin. [14618/07]

Quillo · 24-04-2007 9:25am

Given the references to the Restricted List above, is the finalised List now available ?

Sparks · 24-04-2007 10:25am

Nope, not yet Quillo.

Sparks · 25-04-2007 7:22pm

What a cop-out of an answer.

172. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason the firearms licence fee has gone up by 50% even though the three-year licence means that less Garda man-hours are needed to administer it compared with the previous system. [14778/07]

173. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if, in view of the fact that the proposed list of restricted firearms contains Olympic pistols, an association (details supplied) and other relevant sporting bodies will be given an opportunity to have input into the second draft of the Statutory Instrument; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14779/07]

174. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when he will be commencing the remainder of the Firearms Act 2006, in view of the fact that the Criminal Justice Bill 2007 is already amending it before it has been fully commenced. [14780/07]

175. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when the Garda Commissioner’s guidelines for superintendents with relation to the Firearms Act 2006 will be published. [14781/07]

176. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when the firearms range inspector will be appointed by the Minister. [14782/07]

177. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason several firearms ranges have already had to spend tens of thousands of euro on upgrades to comply with Garda demands for range certification in view of the fact that the relevant legislation has not been commenced and that the range inspector not been appointed. [14783/07]

178. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform when the official regulations to which firing ranges must conform will be published. [14784/07]

179. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if he will give assurances that target shooters wishing to compete in international competitions who find their sporting equipment listed on the restricted list will not find themselves required to comply with draconian and onerous demands to obtain firearms certificates. [14785/07]

180. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason shotgun licences cost €115 for a three-year period with each subsequent shotgun on the licence costing €30 but an air rifle licence costs €170 and can only have one air rifle on it. [14786/07]

181. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason in view of the obvious benefit to tourism that the 2012 Olympics represent, the firearms licence costs for foreign visitors have been increased to €57; and the reason no free visitors’ permit mechanism has been created to encourage the tourism that competitive target shooting represents. [14787/07]

182. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if his attention has been drawn to strong concerns expressed by an association (details supplied) regarding recent changes to firearms legislation and licensing systems; if he will meet the association; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14788/07]

188. Mr. Durkan asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform if he has received correspondence in relation to licence fees; his plans to address this issue in early course; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14823/07]

194. Mr. Ferris asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the reason it was necessary to increase the fees for firearms licences and training licenses by so much; and his views on whether this constitutes an exorbitant and unfair expense on tens of thousands of people who participate in gun sports here. [14866/07]

203. Mr. Quinn asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the number of firearms licences currently in place for each category of shotguns, rifles, pistols and other firearms; the number of firearms licences currently in place in each county; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14943/07]

Tánaiste and Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): I propose to take Questions Nos. 172 to 182, inclusive, 188, 194 and 203 together.

The Criminal Justice Act 2006 was signed into law by the President on the 16th July 2006. All sections of that Act relating to firearms have been commenced other than the following sections: 28 (Firearms training certificate); 30 (Application for, and form and effect of firearm certificates); 32 (Conditions of grant of firearms certificate); 33 (Authorisation of rifle or pistol clubs or shooting ranges); 38 (Registered Firearms Dealers); and 40 (Reloading of ammunition).

A Project Board, Chaired by an Assistant Commissioner of An Garda Síochána comprising members of my Department and An Garda Síochána is actively addressing the issues which need to be put in place before these sections can be commenced, including significant changes to the Garda PULSE computer system.

Officials of my Department met recently with two of the Shooting Organisations to discuss a number of issues relating to the new licensing regime. I am anxious that the programme of change which is being undertaken proceeds smoothly and has legitimate regard to all the interests involved, not least the public interest. It is in that context that I am considering the establishment of a consultative panel to bring the relevant stakeholders together on a structured basis.

The licensing of firearms and registration of Firearms Dealers is governed by the Firearms Acts 1925 - 2006. The Criminal Justice Act 2006 substantially amended the existing legislation to provide for a new firearms licensing regime. The present frequency of licensing of firearms and the registration of Firearms Dealers on an annual basis is changing to a three yearly basis - primarily to free up Garda time and resources. The new scheme, however, will not take effect until 2008, so the licensing process will go ahead on the usual annual basis this summer under the old fee structure.

In relation to the increase in charges, the Department of Finance and Revenue Commissioners advised me that, since the last time the fees were changed in 1992 there had been a 51% increase in the Consumer Price Index. The new fee structure reflects this increase as well as a tripling of the annual rate to reflect the new three year term.

It was not intended that the increase should cause undue hardship or difficulties for those who have to obtain licences. I am in receipt of correspondence regarding the fees from various members of the shooting community and as it will be some time before the new fees arise there will be time to consider the legitimate concerns that have been expressed.

Under Section 29 of the Criminal Justice Act, 2006 I may, by statutory instrument and in the interests of public safety and security, declare specific firearms and ammunition as “restricted”, by reference to their category, calibre, working mechanism, muzzle energy and description. It should be noted that where a firearm is deemed “restricted” it does not mean that the possession or sale of such firearms is prohibited.

Where a person wishes to possess such a firearm they will be required to make an application to the Garda Commissioner for the grant of a firearms certificate and satisfy the Commissioner that they comply with the conditions set out in Section 4 of the Firearms Act, 1925, as amended by the 2006 Act. In addition firearms dealers will be required to seek an authorisation from me for the importation for sale of such firearms.

My Department has consulted with An Garda Síochána, organisations representing different shooting interest groups and firearms dealers representatives regarding the drafting of this statutory instrument. I am satisfied that the final version which will be published, within the near future, will represent a reasonable balance between allowing people go about their business or interests lawfully while at the same time having due regard to public safety and security.

The Commissioner in consultation with my Department has prepared draft guidelines on firearms licensing. The draft is currently being finalised and it is my intention that it will be circulated when ready.

The Firearms Act 1925, as amended, provides that gun clubs and ranges may be authorised by a Garda Superintendent. However, a Superintendent shall not grant such an authorisation unless he is satisfied that the possession, use or carriage of firearms in pursuance of such authorisation will not endanger public safety or the peace. In so far as the grant of an authorisation for a gun club or range is concerned the courts have ruled that the Superintendent is persona designata in relation to such decisions and cannot be fettered in any way.

In addition, under Section 4 of the Firearms Act 1925, a Superintendent before granting a firearms certificate shall be satisfied that such person can be permitted to have in his possession, use and carry a firearm or ammunition without danger to the public safety or to the peace.

We are in transition phase, however, and Section 33 of the Criminal Justice Act 2006, when commenced will provide that the owner or operator of a rifle/pistol club or range shall be required to apply to the Commissioner of An Garda Síochána for an authorisation. Such ranges and clubs shall be required to meet minimum standards as set down by me, by way of Statutory Instrument. In the case of a range authorisation, the application must be accompanied by a range certificate as issued by the Firearms Range Inspector.

Proposals are being finalised at present in my Department in relation to the Range Inspection function.

On statistics, I am informed by the Commissioner of An Garda Síochána that the there are currently 220,715 firearms licences in the State, including 49,218 rifle, 170,156 shotgun, 1,228 handgun and 113 other various firearms licences. I am informed by the Commissioner that providing a breakdown of firearms licences by county could not be achieved without a disproportionate use of time and resources. The following table sets out firearms licences by Garda divisions.

Garda Division Total no. of firearms licensed
Mayo 10,613
Clare 7,895
Kerry 8,948
Donegal 11,288
Limerick 8,759
Cork City 3,739
Cork West 10,260
Cork Nth 8,579
Tipperary 14,347
Galway West 8,911
Louth/Meath 17,362
Laois/Offaly 13,030
Sligo/Leitrim 6,802
Carlow/Kilkenny 15,865
Cavan/Monaghan 14,379
DMR Eastern 4,157
DMR West 3,821
DMR Nth 3,617
DMR Nth Central 223
DMR South 2,675
DMR Sth Central 511
Wexford/Wicklow 17,815
Longford/Westmeath 11,478
Roscommon/Galway 11,052
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