Efibre Macroom

MrLucidLJ · 05-09-2014 4:40pm

ED E wrote: »

As I've explained above, this is due to decisions back in the 70's or 80's they arent choosing to ignore you, the existing infrastructure is whats the problem.

Well I know you've explained this before but just shows the greed rather then the business smarts to set something up right and not having these problems in 2014 pretty mental, I must give Vodafone an old ring to complain to them about false advertising.

MrLucidLJ · 05-09-2014 4:41pm

suaimhneas_de wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone in the Macroom Area had OR has eFibre up n running..?

As I said up around Fairfield has it up to 95mbps.

suaimhneas_de · 06-09-2014 8:52pm

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

As I said up around Fairfield has it up to 95mbps.

Thats pretty good to be fair...

MrLucidLJ · 06-09-2014 8:54pm

suaimhneas_de wrote: »

Thats pretty good to be fair...

It is but the whole town should have it by now, been waiting all year for it to come lol

dbit · 07-09-2014 2:33pm

Read the direct fed comreg doc it states that direct from exchange units are not allowed higher than 2.xx mhz and for cabs its 17.xx mhz , so its going to be crap unless under 1000 meters . Typical long wait for nothing.

MrLucidLJ · 07-09-2014 4:39pm

dbit wrote: »

Read the direct fed comreg doc it states that direct from exchange units are not allowed higher than 2.xx mhz and for cabs its 17.xx mhz , so its going to be crap unless under 1000 meters . Typical long wait for nothing.

Does it say when the direct fed thing will be set up? Also where is it located in relation to the town?

dbit · 29-09-2014 10:28am

the exchange is behind the post office depot in the village , When lol dont make me laugh.

dbit · 24-10-2014 11:45am

Looking at this in more detail - I have heard in some cases they are fitting green cabs outside exchanges so as not housed internally so the noise pollution thing and lower frequencies will not come into play in some places where they cut and re-terminate outside the exchange .

MrLucidLJ · 29-10-2014 5:07pm

So you have no idea when they will be doing the other places and estates around the town?

dbit · 30-10-2014 3:50am

none keep an eye on the exchange ask any eircom or KN employees useless asking in here as we have zero knowledge about direct fed roll out plans. in the dark the way eircom wants it.

MrLucidLJ · 31-10-2014 4:23am

Ah is it KN Networks who are going around doing all the work maybe it would be better to get in contact with them to find out more i tried the eircom crowd before the technical support and they have no idea.

dbit · 01-12-2014 9:30am

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Ah is it KN Networks who are going around doing all the work maybe it would be better to get in contact with them to find out more i tried the eircom crowd before the technical support and they have no idea.

I was getting coal the other day in the garage in Kerry side of Macroom , I spotted one washing his van ,I asked him about the direct fed solution and he didnt know jack **** about it . Eircom engineers are the only ones you can ask as the unit will get fitted internally in the exchange - unless they dig up a spot just outside the exchange.

dbit · 11-12-2014 12:24pm

Not looking good macroom , Just had a live chat with eircom agent who pretty much confirmed evdsl will not appear in Macroom until 2016 or even after . Good news is that i can break contract at 12 months so only 6 months more to go then its bye bye Macroom/Eircom - sadly I like the place , great for kids looking now for the live areas for ESB Vodafone and an end to my whinging on Boards .

dbit · 22-04-2015 2:35pm

Agh jesus christ lads, someone please tell me the the map @ http://www.eircomwholesale.ie/Our_Network/ is ballox macroom just went blue for the exchange building ????

MRM1_E01

Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress

This happened without any pre-schedule info's leading up to today . Is this a load of aul sh1te or is it real , as per all the complaints on maps being wrong ?

I just wet myself a little.

Line checker still fails.

dbit · 22-04-2015 2:44pm

Spoke online with Chat agent usual ****e , knows nothing states 2016 , I am poised to relocate and this si driving me nuts i could save having to move , I need to know if this means DF is just around the corner , it no longer states as it has done every day for the last year ( I have checked) that a build is planned for the future ?????

dbit · 22-04-2015 2:47pm

dbit wrote: »

Yesterday the main exchange in Macroom now shows up as 300 premises can now order efiber and the towns 5 cabs now show as live. If they cannot tell you that you can sign up on the phone now then there is something really wrong. They also have a planned cab ( In the same place as the main exchange - LLU cannot be an excuse for this bull**** carry on as its going to be the same solution for the already active people ) for all us dopey ****s on the direct fed.

This is the one gone live at the exchange . now Blue .

Bog Standard User · 23-04-2015 10:46pm

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

I just don't see the point of poor advertising I hope I get more then 30 ill take 50 but if I get 30 or less they are going to be getting a strong call from me and getting an earful because its not what I was promised.

firstly it is "upto 100mb" on FTTC

this means the further your house is from the cab the less speed you get.

copper had a db loss rate of about 13.81db per km

there is nothing eircom can do about this as this is basic physics.

this is copper length not direct line of sight

(Expectations based on a line with no faults)

upto 300m from cab expect 100mb

from 301m to 400m expect 90mb

from 401m to 600m expect 80mb

from 601m to 750m expect 70mb

from 751m to 850m expect 60mb

now from this point onwards speed drop more significantly

from 851m to 950m expect 50mb

from 951m to 1100m expect 40mb

from 1001m to 1200m expect 30mb

1201m to 1.3km expect 25mb

1.301m to 1.5km expect 20mb

1.501m to 1,8km expect 18mb

1801m to 2km expect 15mb

2001m to 2.2km expect 12mb

2201m to 2.5km (max range) expect 7mb

when FTTH is available to more people there is no DB loss per km to worry about but there is a max length of about 2km for FTTH (after that it becomes insanely expensive to deliver FTTH at present)

with FTTH it is all or nothing - so if they offer 1gb/s you should expect about 95% of that speed between your home and the cab (5% loss expected due to electrical systems loss - in other words cab switches and your home side ethernet cabling from olt to modem to computer)

NOTE: wifi will never give you close to 1gb on FTTH with a wireless N or G adapter. for 800mb-ish (about as good as wireless ac will realistically offer) wifi speeds you will need to replace your wifi adapter on your computer with a Wireless AC adapter on 5Ghz frequency

also speedtest.net is not calibrated for 1gb/s speed tests yet so dont be worried if you only see 250mb on a test

i have a friend who is trialing esb / vf in cavan on 1gb and speedtest.net never ever goes above 250mb

we both reckon the file speedtest.net uses to gauge speed is not large enough for the dl speed to reach full speed before the file dl completes

dbit · 24-04-2015 8:14am

NOTE: wifi will never give you close to 1gb on FTTH with a wireless N or G adapter. for 800mb-ish (about as good as wireless ac will realistically offer) wifi speeds you will need to replace your wifi adapter on your computer with a Wireless AC adapter on 5Ghz frequency

Ubiquiti gear for around a grand a pop can hit very impressive backhaul type speeds , down to line of site , Fresnel zone , and noise in the area.

also speedtest.net is not calibrated for 1gb/s speed tests yet so dont be worried if you only see 250mb on a test
(Bullsh1t)

i have a friend who is trialing esb / vf in cavan on 1gb and speedtest.net never ever goes above 250mb

Oh yes your "Friend" lolz.

we both reckon the file speedtest.net uses to gauge speed is not large enough for the dl speed to reach full speed before the file dl completes[/QUOTE]

Have you tried to test to places like Douglas off the coast of dublin , I know they have a world class connection there and very little people on the island to use it , hence it always maxs out any speed i have tested ?

We have already had ESB users post images in this forum of transfers of around 960MBs down with around 670 ish upload. ( They used speedtest.net your reckoning is completely wrong) the speed that a specific nominated test location is determined by the max upload of that site and the throughput that site is under at an given time .

MrLucidLJ · 30-04-2015 4:42pm

dbit wrote: »

This is the one gone live at the exchange . now Blue .

When did you see this have you seen vans in the area carrying out the work, because I checked the map and can't see the blue? How far would I be away from that cab? Another lad was giving all the distances saying the further away the less speeds you get which is understandable.

The Cush · 01-05-2015 9:19am

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

because I checked the map and can't see the blue?

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

- zoom into Macroom on the map to see the blue cab marker (MRM1_E01)
- select "Fibre Services Live" check box to the right to see the exchange marker

dbit · 01-05-2015 10:18am

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

When did you see this have you seen vans in the area carrying out the work, because I checked the map and can't see the blue? How far would I be away from that cab? Another lad was giving all the distances saying the further away the less speeds you get which is understandable.

http://www.eircomwholesale.ie/Our_Network/

zoom all the way into macroom (ALL THE WAY) target just behind post office in village , check the box on the right for "Fiber build Commenced", you will see central exchange is now blue , You wont see many vans as its all done inside the exchange. West Macroom says orange, one in plans for 2015/2016 so end of year for that side of the town.

The direct fed is just a case of line checking each day and using the url checker tool on one of the fiber pages here inga:true (OR ingb:true) is what we are waiting to see change im sure . Maybe BK or ED can confirm that.

ED E · 01-05-2015 10:45am

Yep, exactly dbit.

You could point https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/page-monitor/pemhgklkefakciniebenbfclihhmmfcd at your prequal link, but dont set the refresh time too low (say every 12hrs).

dbit · 01-05-2015 11:10am

ED E wrote: »

Yep, exactly dbit.

You could point https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/page-monitor/pemhgklkefakciniebenbfclihhmmfcd at your prequal link, but dont set the refresh time too low (say every 12hrs).

Bloody awesome, didn't think of that , class lil tidbit. Cheers Ed E.

dbit · 01-05-2015 11:27am

use this

https://www.eircom.net/prequalWidget/rest/ardaddresslook/phone-rsp/xxx-xxxx/broadband/true

replace the xx-xxx with your phone number keeping the "-" sign , you may have to refresh it once or twice to get the results.

Your modems line attenuation should give you a clue to your line length.

Ed E's link for the page monitor is class , only look for the sections it hands you back for :-

This indicates exchange DF i think :- "xbc":true,"xec":true

This tells you if the build has finished and evdsl is now live at exchange :- inga":false,"ingb":true we want the false to turn to true .

dbit · 19-05-2015 2:50pm

Tweets from Eircom wholesale state DF solution is well advanced and that we will have fiber from this summer if under the 1km your sorted (I hope)

MrLucidLJ · 18-06-2015 5:03pm

Hi guys finally got the good news of Efibre enabled at my line and found out its not Live to July 15th a year of waiting better then nothing but a few problems and questions, they can only check what speeds now and are saying 15mb which is what I get I assume that it will increase to at least double it.

dbit · 22-06-2015 10:47am

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Hi guys finally got the good news of Efibre enabled at my line and found out its not Live to July 15th a year of waiting better then nothing but a few problems and questions, they can only check what speeds now and are saying 15mb which is what I get I assume that it will increase to at least double it.

Ye mee too , i am moving to a house on sleevean road 300-350 meters from exchange so ill get 40MB to start with and 10 up , this i am hoping is subject to a lil boost once or if vectoring gets turned on . As it is everyone seems to be reproting lower speeds expected for the distances they are on , but again this i feel is a slow let campaign so as not to blow other paties offline or impact other services .

gabikyla · 03-08-2015 9:15pm

Hi,

I'm living in the hermitage and having serious trouble with vodafone about the speeds I'm getting. It's shocking most evenings and drops randomly even though they dispute this.

Does anyone know anything about this side if town ? Will fibre be coming here ? Should I be experiencing slow speeds here at the minute?

I'd be grateful for any info !

Thanks

dbit · 04-08-2015 8:36am

gabikyla wrote: »

Hi,

I'm living in the hermitage and having serious trouble with vodafone about the speeds I'm getting. It's shocking most evenings and drops randomly even though they dispute this.

Does anyone know anything about this side if town ? Will fibre be coming here ? Should I be experiencing slow speeds here at the minute?

I'd be grateful for any info !

Thanks

You are in the west side of MAcroom they have yet to have a cabinet setup for that side of the village . Look at your modem landing page and get the down attenuation values thats a good indicator of the speeds you should be getting . With the Direct fed gone live DSL speeds should improve in that not many users will be on the ADSL +2 service anymore.

gabikyla · 04-08-2015 9:12am

Thanks for the reply, here is that info,

Line standard G.dmt
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 7168
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 384
Downstream SNR (dB) 16.4
Upstream SNR (dB) 18
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 7
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 6
Downstream output power (dBmV) 4.5
Upstream output power (dBmV) 0.1
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 455
Upstream FEC

dbit · 04-08-2015 10:15am

gabikyla wrote: »

Thanks for the reply, here is that info,

Line standard G.dmt
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 7168
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 384
Downstream SNR (dB) 16.4
Upstream SNR (dB) 18
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 7
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 6
Downstream output power (dBmV) 4.5
Upstream output power (dBmV) 0.1
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 455
Upstream FEC

Looks to me that you are on standard DSL sync at 7 MB just under the 8~MB max for dsl ( thats not even ADSL +2) you may talkt to them , if out of contract i would give eircom a bell and ask if at least with them adsl +2 is available to you at least until after the cab gets fitted out your direction.

Download attenuation for you looks really good you could expect 23MB down on adsl +2 or 68MB on vdsl. get calling them as they have left your side of the town till very last . ( I know a few more worse off then you a little further out)

dbit · 04-08-2015 10:45am

Im at 800 meters syncing now at 40/10 on evdsl in Macroom. Was on 12 down attenuation on adsl +2 @ 19 MB. Now i sync at 40/10 with down attenuation of 15 - ( same line same sockets) so i would say there is room to tighten things up .

gabikyla · 04-08-2015 5:54pm

Thanks for replying.

Ok, vodafone tell me that the Macroom west exchange is "not enhanced" hence my slow speeds. However eircom tell me I should be getting 20mb from the exchange, one of them is not telling the truth.

So I see from my router that my line standard is g.dmt which is basic adsl as far as I'm aware, so if what eircom tell me correct I should be getting adsl 2+, do you know if Macroom west is capable of adsl 2+, if so should vodafone give me this ?

Thanks and regards k

ED E · 04-08-2015 7:08pm

gabikyla wrote: »

Thanks for replying.

Ok, vodafone tell me that the Macroom west exchange is "not enhanced" hence my slow speeds. However eircom tell me I should be getting 20mb from the exchange, one of them is not telling the truth.

So I see from my router that my line standard is g.dmt which is basic adsl as far as I'm aware, so if what eircom tell me correct I should be getting adsl 2+, do you know if Macroom west is capable of adsl 2+, if so should vodafone give me this ?

Thanks and regards k

MRM is NGN, or "enhanced" as vodafone call it.

This means either A, they dont know how to migrate you onto a 2+ rack, or that its LLU and the BT equipment is ADSL1 only. Either way, I'd give them a week to resolve it and after that swap to eircom.

dbit · 04-08-2015 7:17pm

gabikyla wrote: »

Thanks for replying.

Ok, vodafone tell me that the Macroom west exchange is "not enhanced" hence my slow speeds. However eircom tell me I should be getting 20mb from the exchange, one of them is not telling the truth.

So I see from my router that my line standard is g.dmt which is basic adsl as far as I'm aware, so if what eircom tell me correct I should be getting adsl 2+, do you know if Macroom west is capable of adsl 2+, if so should vodafone give me this ?

Thanks and regards k

Ed E is on the money , they or Vodafone may not have gear in the rack possibly no space as that exchange feeds a huge amount of rural customers. If Eircom advise you as i did , that you should be able to get around 23 MB (Eircom always back it off a bit for stability) Then that implies at least Eircom have adsl+2 in the rack . Maybe Voda have over sold the adsl +2 or reached cap (No ports left) and they know evdsl is on the cards for that exchange, they will fob you off until its upgraded .

With your download attn your looking at close to max speeds on any of the dsl technologies.

gabikyla · 04-08-2015 7:20pm

thanks lads, i now have some ammo for tomorrows battle

dbit · 04-08-2015 7:22pm

gabikyla wrote: »

thanks lads, i now have some ammo for tomorrows battle

LOLz go nice n easy they respond way better and will help you more .

dbit · 05-08-2015 3:01pm

gabikyla wrote: »

thanks lads, i now have some ammo for tomorrows battle

Well how did it all go ? You getting something faster if you switch ?Did they say when they will upgrade the DF in that exchange for west Macroom. ( HAve a buddy out your way asking.)

gabikyla · 05-08-2015 4:14pm

I'm not long off the phone from them.

First they denied that the exchange was enhanced, so I hit them with all my new info including eircom telling me if I switched that I would get adsl2+. Then he admitted that it was enhanced but that vodafone had no access to it.

So now his manager is going to ring me back. Let's see what happens

dbit · 05-08-2015 4:20pm

gabikyla wrote: »

I'm not long off the phone from them.

First they denied that the exchange was enhanced, so I hit them with all my new info including eircom telling me if I switched that I would get adsl2+. Then he admitted that it was enhanced but that vodafone had no access to it.

So now his manager is going to ring me back. Let's see what happens

They tried to lie once, for me thats a good bye . Eircom have a bishop in the office and he checks non of the agents tell lies. I think they call him Len.

gabikyla · 05-08-2015 5:22pm

Ok the the manager rang me back and told me they had nothing better to offer me.

He said he was very surprised that eircom offered what they did, he advised me to get everything in writing before I sign with them. He also changed the finishing date of my contract to tomorrow even though it isn't out for another 12 months. The guy seemed fair.

He also asked me to give him a bell if I actually get adsl2+ from eircom as he said if eircom can provide that, vodafone should have access to it too.

The ball is in my court now on what to do ????

ED E · 06-08-2015 1:11am

Macroom is a regional node, look at the maps. It feeds KRA, IGH, BLY and has two core links itself. There is NO way its not NGN/NGB.

That said though, Ireland offline says its ADSL1 Racks only! Seems very hard to believe though.

I'd tweet @eircom or post on their talk2 and have them check.

gabikyla · 06-08-2015 9:48am

ED E wrote: »

Macroom is a regional node, look at the maps. It feeds KRA, IGH, BLY and has two core links itself. There is NO way its not NGN/NGB.

That said though, Ireland offline says its ADSL1 Racks only! Seems very hard to believe though.

I'd tweet @eircom or post on their talk2 and have them check.

Is that not the main Macroom exchange ? On Ireland offline the Macroom West exchange says adsl2+.

The Eircom twitter account told me that Macroom wesy was capable of adsl2+ but vodafone says its not or that they have no access to it.

ED E · 06-08-2015 10:03am

gabikyla wrote: »

Is that not the main Macroom exchange ? On Ireland offline the Macroom West exchange says adsl2+.

The Eircom twitter account told me that Macroom wesy was capable of adsl2+ but vodafone says its not or that they have no access to it.

Oh you're MRW not MRM? MRW isnt NGN by the looks of things. Might not be many free ports.

MRW1_E01

Fibre Broadband Cabinet is planned for this location

It'll be upgraded eventually anyways.

dbit · 06-08-2015 12:29pm

ED E wrote: »

Oh you're MRW not MRM? MRW isnt NGN by the looks of things. Might not be many free ports.

It'll be upgraded eventually anyways.

YEs i thought asking him/her to call would be definitive enough , ITs the low Down Attn that made me jump .

gabikyla · 06-08-2015 12:56pm

This is comical, both sky and vodafone both tell me that the max speeds I can get is 7, eircom are still telling me I can get 20.

I asked them if the exchange can give me 20 and they don't know. All they can tell me is that my line can take 20. Jesus the own the exchange and can't tell me what vodafone and sky can. They said the only way to know would be to switch and see what happens. That's a joke

Nobody in eircom knows what adsl or adsl2 is. Both vodafone and sky said that EIrcom would be breaking the law if they can offer me more speed than them from the exchange.

dbit · 06-08-2015 2:32pm

I would not move unless i get it in writing that an upgrade will happen . Ed E is right im sure that exchange has got adsl+2 , I cannot confirm that .

ED E do you know if the curl script is still working for the exchange lookup info as with that we could tell whats available on the line right ? or at least wahts in macroom west exchange ?

ED E · 06-08-2015 3:11pm

It may not actually matter what racks are in there in fact. If its not NGN then the package codes could be 1 3 and 7(8)Mb. Purely because of backhaul.

Seems nuts that they wouldnt have linked it up though considering its proximity to MRM.

No idea about the script. When you call eircoms sales guys they should get the same info anyways, but I wouldnt trust them to read it correctly. :rolleyes:

ED E · 06-08-2015 9:28pm

MRW is an RSU, a mini cab. Good luck with getting that upgraded.

dbit · 07-08-2015 9:15am

YE I would say they will rip it out or atleast build next to it for the NGA and NGN, I must admit i had not taken the trip over to find it . thats a pisser for west Macroom , but at least you know in the future it will come unlike some other areas that are just plain Fubar'd.

Efibre Macroom

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