Sugar...How much?

dor843088 wrote: »

The causes for high triglycerides are obesity, poorly controlled diabetes , under active thyroid, kidney disease, cosuming excess calories wherever they may come from and alcohol. The dietary contributors are simple carbohydrates including the ones found in fruits and vegetables ,egg yokes , milk, red meat or anything with saturated fat.

The same people who bash sugar will consume eggs for breakfast fruit for snacks and a steak for dinner . Unless you have high cholesterol or are overweight and sedentary I wouldnt worry about high fat in my blood just because I've eaten some simple sugars or a steak or some eggs.

Does sugar raise triglycerides ? Yes . Along with everything else we eat including the health staples that everybody pushes .

You sound like a bully in a schoolyard shoving your "proof" down everyone's throat, can you not have a mature conversation without the gloating and childishness, you're like a bloody broken record.

Just to comment on some of the tripe above; cause of high triglycerides, obesity? come again? and what causes obesity? bad diabetes control? and what is the major cause of type II diabetes (now at epidemic proportions effecting 8.3% of americans)? sugar (or wheat) is the answer. Personally, eating egg yolks is ok and eating saturated fat is just fine. It's widely accepted now that cholesterol intake does cause high cholesterol and eating fat does not make you fat, these antiquated beliefs from the past have been disproven (see studies in link from authority nutrition). I eat a high fat/protein, low carb based diet to complement my training and things haven't been better both physically & mentally and I have had a health check with bloods recently to confirm this.

You're not concerned about sugar that's fine, you've made your feelings well known on that and it's your choice but at least educate yourself before rehashing the same garbage out of your little fish bowl trying to disprove everybody. I do agree with your point that consuming carbs is basically no different in terms of sugar intake; bar some extra fibre, a bowl of pasta or a slice of wholemeal bread is essentially a bag of sugar you're throwing into your body. My carb intake consists of whole-foods, fruit or whole unprocessed rice or potatoes. I typically time my intake of carbs to replenish my glycogen stores after training, otherwise we really don't need them, the body can synthesise its own glucose from fatty acids. I should also note, wheat intake is extremely detrimental to our health and should be avoided like the plague, not only because of the harmful glutens but a slice of bread will spikes your blood sugar more than a snickers will, this is the primary cause of obesity and type II diabetes according to the book "wheat belly", a very interesting and shocking read. Personally I've benefited immensely from the elimination of wheat from the diet and on the topic of glycation, wheat is a major player in the the build up of AGE's (ok not quite on topic yeah but worth mentioning, it's essentially sugar).

Anyway you wanted some reasons why sugar is bad for you? These are from authority nutrition (also a great blog) and this can also apply to the glycemic properties of wheat, links to references can be found here)

- Bad for your teeth (the obvious one yes)

- Added sugar is high in fructose, which can overload your liver

- Excess fructose gets turned into fat, which lodges in the liver and cause non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

- Sugar causes insulin resistance which contributes to a range of diseases including metabolic syndrome, obesity, cardiovascular disease and particularly type II diabetes

- Multiple studies show that people who eat a lot of sugar are at a much higher risk of getting cancer

- Fructose doesn’t cause satiety in the brain or lower the hunger hormone ghrelin nearly as much as glucose.

- Sugar (and wheat) causes a large release of dopamine in the brain, causing addiction in a lot of people

- Sugar dramatically increases the risk of becoming overweight or obese.

- Studies show that large amounts of fructose can raise triglycerides, small, dense LDL and oxidized LDL (very, very bad), raise blood glucose and insulin levels and increase abdominal obesity - major heart disease!

Hope that helps!

stratowide wrote: »

I'd take as much as 100g on workout days.Maybe 40g before and 60g directly
after working out,usually in a shake mixed with a 30g of whey powder.
It's in the form of glucose which is much the same as sugar anyway.

Other than the 100g I take before and after workout,none is taken during the day otherwise.
I take none on non-workout days.

I weigh 100kg's.

Why would you want sugar after a workout? I used to use protein shakes, but would rather eat real food these days.

Tec Diver wrote: »

Why would you want sugar after a workout? I used to use protein shakes, but would rather eat real food these days.

Sugar is used to rebuild glycogen stores in muscles and the liver, which are the primary fuel source during exercise. Getting some sugar in should speed recovery.