Schols Schols Schols, information and venting thread.

Podge_irl · 12-03-2008 6:13pm

Is the exam hall still god damn freezing? I lost feeling in my hands several times back when I was doing schols.

paperclip · 12-03-2008 6:27pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

Is the exam hall still god damn freezing? I lost feeling in my hands several times back when I was doing schols.

Coat and gloves.

balzarywex · 12-03-2008 6:35pm

Went with ATP synthesis, amino acid metabolism's contribution to gluconeogenesis and 'the behaviour of enzymes in chemistry is catalysed by big molecules- discuss' myself. Other options were parallels between glycogen storage and utilisation, pyruvate as a central molecule in metabolic systems and cellular protein transport. Nice broad paper and probably the one I expected to be toughest as well.

Exam Hall - freezing cold AND sun shining in your eyes. Ill be the one who shows up with both sunglasses and gloves 'n' scarf tomorrow!

Thirdfox · 12-03-2008 6:40pm

paperclip wrote: »

Coat and gloves.

Not allowed to wear a coat according to the inspectors/official personnel there.

But no, I didn't find it cold at all.

Randomness · 12-03-2008 7:02pm

slight diversion, but why no scarves allowed in exams?

i would have thought that given the invigelators walk past fairly frequently you couldn't cheat by having something in your scarf?

then again i've never cheated so the world of cheating methods probably is lost on me.

Awayindahils · 12-03-2008 7:57pm

Thirdfox wrote: »

Not allowed to wear a coat according to the inspectors/official personnel there.

But no, I didn't find it cold at all.

Was talking to a couple of people today and it seemed to be largely down to where you were sitting with whether or not it is cold. As in being near the door and as such suffering the gusts of wind that come in every time its opened.

Thirdfox · 12-03-2008 9:13pm

Awayindahils wrote: »

Was talking to a couple of people today and it seemed to be largely down to where you were sitting with whether or not it is cold. As in being near the door and as such suffering the gusts of wind that come in every time its opened.

I was sitting near the back (about 3 rows) and a bit to the left - but no one opened the door when we were sitting exams on the 11th so maybe that's the difference.

Zoodlebop · 13-03-2008 4:58pm

Going nicely for me Phy 1 was delightful, Phy 2, not so much, except the bird question in Section D, which was gas!

2S1 today was tricky, but very doable. Any thoughts?

Podge_irl · 13-03-2008 6:13pm

The section D questions on Phy 2 are always quite entertaining (though tend to be of the "easy if you know how" variety).

paperclip · 13-03-2008 7:11pm

pharmaceutical chemistry tomorrow....I'm keeping my fingers crossed for very, very specific topics to come up!!
Well...the main thing to remember here is we have nothing to lose.

I know now that even if I have to do the summer exams, I know what I need to focus on. That alone made it worth it for me so far.

balzarywex · 13-03-2008 7:12pm

Thought 2S1 was grand, bit trickier than last year but should be a banker paper that will hopefully remain a decent average for maths after the disaster that 2S2 will surely be tomorrow. goddam you matrices and vector spaces!

paperclip · 13-03-2008 11:30pm

A cakewalk compared to the horror that awaits me tomorrow with the unholy marriage of organic synthesis and integrating kinetic rates.

ApeXaviour · 14-03-2008 3:05am

balzarywex wrote: »

Thought 2S1 was grand, bit trickier than last year but should be a banker paper that will hopefully remain a decent average for maths after the disaster that 2S2 will surely be tomorrow. goddam you matrices and vector spaces!

It's a real pity sara mcmurry retired this year. She used to the 2S2 course. I always did well in physics papers with her questions on them. And that paper 2S2 is what got me schols really, you could get out her questions near perfectly if you did enough work. Got more than 20% higher in that paper than any other paper.

europerson · 14-03-2008 9:46am

I'm in the Arts Building, surrounded by an almost half-and-half split of eager and depressed would-be Scholars. It reminded me of Wilfred Owen, and this might be a suitable adaptation of one of his poems:

My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro studii mori.

14-03-2008 10:28am

And here I was tip-toeing around the flat so I wouldn't wake you......

Best of luck to all those taking schol exams, you will look back on this time fondly and the experience will stand to you.

paperclip · 14-03-2008 2:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

And here I was tip-toeing around the flat so I wouldn't wake you......

Best of luck to all those taking schol exams, you will look back on this time fondly and the experience will stand to you.

Looking back fondly seems too much of an exaggeration-at this stage I'd be happy just to be looking BACK on them...

Pharmaceutical chemistry today was.....interesting....

Zoodlebop · 14-03-2008 3:36pm

I found 2S2 fairly awesome today, I have to say. Very nice paper, except 3 part c which I made a decent stab at. Now I have to wait 1.5 weeks until Redmond's mechanics, which should be the Schols equivalent of a cake walk.

paperclip · 18-03-2008 9:33pm

My last paper is tomorrow! Hooray!
When do you all finish?

Thirdfox · 18-03-2008 9:39pm

Nearly all the law students finish on the 28th...

Thirdfox · 25-03-2008 8:26pm

One more exam

:):):) :pac:

Randomness · 25-03-2008 8:42pm

hey just wondering if you do schols are they not on the same time as term tests? therefore do you do both or what happens? would that not be a nightmare have to study a year a half of work on a large scale and then 9 weeks of work on a smaller scale?

also seen as you find out on trinity monday you pretty much have to prepare just the same for the end of year exams, unless your a genius and know you got your exemptions??

claire h · 25-03-2008 8:45pm

Randomness wrote: »

also seen as you find out on trinity monday you pretty much have to prepare just the same for the end of year exams, unless your a genius and know you got your exemptions??

Most departments put up the lists of who got exemptions earlyish in Trinity term, week 2 or so.

paperclip · 25-03-2008 9:07pm

Randomness wrote: »

hey just wondering if you do schols are they not on the same time as term tests? therefore do you do both or what happens? would that not be a nightmare have to study a year a half of work on a large scale and then 9 weeks of work on a smaller scale?

also seen as you find out on trinity monday you pretty much have to prepare just the same for the end of year exams, unless your a genius and know you got your exemptions??

Just my 2 euro cents' worth:
The schols exams...
They ARE at the same time as the term tests, in fact I had my microbiology final examination sandwiched in between the pharmaceutics and pharmaceutical chemistry schols exams. It was intense! What you do is study more for the micro in the weeks coming up, then switch over to the other ones as the time nears. You can get away with a quick session the night before just to make sure you don't miss anything then. Leastways, that's how I did it- I don't know how effective it'll be!

I do have to prep for the summer exams, but since I put so much work into the schols exams, I'm a lot more prepared for them than I would be otherwise and I know which bits I need to focus on for the finals. Never a bad thing.

xebec · 25-03-2008 10:27pm

Randomness wrote: »

hey just wondering if you do schols are they not on the same time as term tests? therefore do you do both or what happens? would that not be a nightmare have to study a year a half of work on a large scale and then 9 weeks of work on a smaller scale?

Short answer: it depends. Long answer: usually, if there is both a Schol exam and a term test in a subject you will only sit the Schol exam. If you fail to get exemptions then the schol mark could be taken as your term mark, or the term mark could be excluded from your annual grade. Unfortunately there is no definite answer, individual lecturers can have a big say in what goes on, but some of them are open to suggestion...

Zoodlebop · 26-03-2008 2:25pm

Yay! Physics and Maths Schols are done. Bring on a Trinity term full of guilt free frolics! On a side note, 2S5 was a gargantuan paper, ridiculously long, but I got everything out (I think and hope) except the last part of 5! FREEEEEEEEDoooooom

balzarywex · 27-03-2008 2:58pm

Free, free, FREEEEE! 2S3 was a completely nosedive but I really dont care anymore...!

paperclip · 27-03-2008 4:56pm

Congrats! It would appear we're all done with schols now, yes?
It's now a case of

Thirdfox · 27-03-2008 5:54pm

Nope...exam tomorrow.

ApeXaviour · 27-03-2008 7:03pm

TPs have their last one tomorrow too. I'm studying with them (stupid graduate course bah!)

Pitseleh · 28-03-2008 3:31pm

Anyone any idea when we're told about exemptions?

HoboJesus · 05-04-2008 1:41am

So.

This whole 'taking notes and paying attention even thought we might not need to at all' thing is pretty annoying. Anyone know when exemption lists are generally out? I've heard they're out by the second week (in Science at least), any truth to that?

Yes it is apparently impossible to get this off my mind for any length of time. Not good for the ol' mental health =/.

Podge_irl · 05-04-2008 2:27am

There were out Monday in the second week when I did it (I think), but its not set in stone.

However, on a buzzkilling note, you probably shouldn't completely neglect this terms lectures. You'll need some of what's taught next year.

HoboJesus · 05-04-2008 6:49pm

Wouldn't neglect, just get a decent knowledge instead of knowing it inside out. I'm talking slacking off relative to studying for schols here

Monday's good to hear though, since that's in two days and all. Even if they're not up then, I'm glad to hear that they can actually come out that early.

Awayindahils · 06-04-2008 3:16pm

HoboJesus wrote: »

Wouldn't neglect, just get a decent knowledge instead of knowing it inside out. I'm talking slacking off relative to studying for schols here

Monday's good to hear though, since that's in two days and all. Even if they're not up then, I'm glad to hear that they can actually come out that early.

Last year most people's results came out this week with regard to exemptions. For BESS it was Wednesday morning along with a load of other courses.

Best of luck to you all. And remember wine is always good. Especially at 3 in the afternoon when everyone else is stuck studying in the library.

Thirdfox · 06-04-2008 3:42pm

Where do you go to check whether exemptions have been given out? Is it online or at the faculty noticeboard usually?

Podge_irl · 06-04-2008 3:46pm

Faculty noticeboard. Don't think the exemptions list goes up online. When exactly they'll put it up is anyone's guess though.

paperclip · 06-04-2008 3:49pm

I don't know if I should feel optimistic or pessimistic.

I have bad vibes though....

Awayindahils · 06-04-2008 4:40pm

Thirdfox wrote: »

Where do you go to check whether exemptions have been given out? Is it online or at the faculty noticeboard usually?

I think there was an email to say that they were up on the notice board last year but it was sent half a day after the list went up and by then everyone already knew whether they had gotten them or not.

paperclip · 06-04-2008 5:07pm

Is your gut usually right in telling you how you did?

Time Magazine · 06-04-2008 5:59pm

Not really. A friend of mine was so sure she'd not succeeded, she was in the airport for Trinity Monday.

HoboJesus · 06-04-2008 7:01pm

Ibid wrote: »

Not really. A friend of mine was so sure she'd not succeeded, she was in the airport for Trinity Monday.

...had she succeeded?

Podge_irl · 06-04-2008 8:11pm

paperclip wrote: »

Is your gut usually right in telling you how you did?

Depends. They're exams like any other really, do you normally have a rough idea of how you did in exams? Some people always wildly underestimate how they did, some will generally be spot on.
Mind you, if you get exemptions you'll know you were at least within 10%, so I imagine even most of those convinced they didn't get them will be nervous on Trinity Monday.

Time Magazine · 07-04-2008 9:39am

HoboJesus wrote: »

...had she succeeded?

She had.

sully-gormo · 07-04-2008 3:16pm

*Waiting patiently for exemptions....* Regular trips to the BESS noticeboards on the third floor are fast becoming the norm

Awayindahils · 07-04-2008 4:57pm

sully-gormo wrote: »

*Waiting patiently for exemptions....* Regular trips to the BESS noticeboards on the third floor are fast becoming the norm

I wouldn't expect anything before Wednesday if I were you.

Thirdfox · 07-04-2008 5:08pm

Dropped into the Law School - the secretary said that they were having the secret meeting tomorrow night (well not so secret now) and we might hear by the end of the week...

HoboJesus · 07-04-2008 5:17pm

sully-gormo wrote: »

*Waiting patiently for exemptions....* Regular trips to the BESS noticeboards on the third floor are fast becoming the norm

Hehe same for myself and some fellow science people. I stopped by the board three times today. I'd say the good of the reward makes such obsessiveness compeltely okay

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Haven't said it yet so good luck to everyone!

paperclip · 07-04-2008 5:47pm

Sign went up on the noticeboard: they're posting them up on Monday 12th April. At 9.15am. So, another week to go. I'm oscillating wildly between feeling pessimistic and optimistic. Good luck to the rest of ye, particularly those who need it!

Thirdfox · 07-04-2008 6:09pm

Good luck everyone. But I feel like I'm one of those who really needs it...

shay_562 · 07-04-2008 6:24pm

paperclip wrote:

Is your gut usually right in telling you how you did?

Definitely not. Our resident foundation scholar spent most of the post-Schols period last year bitching about how he wasn't going to get them. Most people who sit them are so mentally fried at this point in the year that they can't tell left from right, so don't give up hope yet - you could just be psyching yourself out. But do remember (and I mean this in the most encouraging tone possible) that they may not go your way, and that if they don't, the universe will not spontaneously implode. You'll feel really **** for a while, then you'll get back to enjoying a term where, at the barest minimum, you've already covered all the work you need to cover, and can therefore drink the days away.

On which note, good luck to you all!

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