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Freelee The Banana Girl

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,656 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I heard of a chap who had cancer and who liked to slice a banana into his porridge in the morning.

    He died.

    Bananas: the silent killer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭kilkenny12


    papu wrote: »
    No please don't it's dangerous and someone might believe you .
    This is on par with homeopathy , unproven and non scientific Bs.

    I take it you didn't both clicking on the links then..

    Lol whatever!


  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭kilkenny12


    I heard of a chap who had cancer and who liked to slice a banana into his porridge in the morning.

    He died.

    Bananas: the silent killer.

    Fruits and vegetables are extremely dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    I take it you didn't both clicking on the links then..

    Lol whatever!

    Did those links have scientific reasoning behind the cure? Any studies by scientists and peer reviewed data?.. no?..

    Eating bananas and hoping for a fruity miracle is a new entry in the Darwin awards for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭kilkenny12


    papu wrote: »
    Did those links have scientific reasoning behind the cure? Any studies by scientists and peer reviewed data?.. no?..

    Eating bananas and hoping for a fruity miracle is a new entry in the Darwin awards for sure.

    So your answer is no, you didn't look at the links. You have such a closed mind that you are not prepared to watch a couple videos on this topic.

    Lol who would pay for scientific studies to be done on such a diet?? How would anyone in a position to conduct studies possibly make money from recommending fruit and vegetables?!!

    Judge by results, not by theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    So your answer is no, you didn't look at the links. You have such a closed mind that you are not prepared to watch a couple videos on this topic.

    Lol who would pay for scientific studies to be done on such a diet?? How would anyone in a position to conduct studies possibly make money from recommending fruit and vegetables?!!

    Judge by results, not by theory.

    Chiquita , Fyffe

    It's analogous to people making recoveries after having people pray for them . It most certainly wasn't the prayer that cured them , and it certainly wasn't the fruit that cured these people. If it can't be backed up by theory and science it simply doesn't exist.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    So your answer is no, you didn't look at the links. You have such a closed mind that you are not prepared to watch a couple videos on this topic.

    Lol who would pay for scientific studies to be done on such a diet?? How would anyone in a position to conduct studies possibly make money from recommending fruit and vegetables?!!

    Judge by results, not by theory.

    Scientific studies happen on diet all the time, there are literally thousands of them in the literature. No one makes money from them. It's called academic research, and it gets billions in funding each year.

    A 500 calorie a day diet has actually been tested to reverse diabetes with some success, even after the participants resumed eating a sufficient amount of calories. It doesn't mean that 500 calories a day is what people should eat for the rest of their life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,606 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    The link above your comment is a man called Joe. He is English but living in Thailand. He's curing his diabetes. He moved to Thailand this year because Thailand has the best fruit and he's retired I think.

    I've watched the video.
    Joe hasn't cured his diabetes. He still, quite clearly, has diabetes. He's also, not anywhere close to a healthy physical condition.
    He is controlling, or avoid issues with, his diabetes by avoiding glucose. Fructose (the sugar in fruit) doesn't have the same insulin effect as glucose. That's widely known and accepted.
    He's comparing the effect that banana have on his blood sugar with McDonald's milkshakes That's hardly a breakthrough.
    If he had a milkshake now, would his blood sugar react any different than previously. I don't think so.

    He's probably improved his diet compared to what ever terrible diet he has before. That means almost nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Obsessed with watching this girl! Her abs are mesmerising!

    But what a crackpot diet. What will she suffer from in the long term would anyone like to guess?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    The link above your comment is a man called Joe. He is English but living in Thailand. He's curing his diabetes. He moved to Thailand this year because Thailand has the best fruit and he's retired I think.?

    Retired man moved to Thailand for the fruit...... yes that is the reason


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Retired man moved to Thailand for the fruit...... yes that is the reason
    Fruit of the loin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭Precious flower


    I'm still confused about them tbh. They are still as healthy and lean as ever (her and Durian Rider) but I still cannot see how eating all that fruit can be good long term. But then I don't think she's eats fatty fruit e.g. Avocados and I think her diet she fairly low fat. So is she healthy because she has basically just stuck to simple sugars and carbohydrates (high carbohydrates, low fat) just like another person would do high protein low carbohydrates? Their lifestyle seems more sustainable though (because eating mostly a lot of protein can leave you constipated like with ketosis). Maybe it's a case of choosing on eor the other or else if you have both you gain weight. Maybe neither are wrong; they just work in their own ways. I don't know but I'm baffled as to how they stay as healthy and lean as they do and have done eating fruit (which people are told to limit when losing weight)since sugar and carbohydrates have been very much deemed the reason for the obesity epidemic. har freelee has done blood tests and shown them and her blood tests are really good, no deficiencies or high sugar readings. I'm not supporting anyone just generally curious? :confused: I'm not more enlightened as to how this works since I started this thread!:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭kilkenny12


    I'm still confused about them tbh. They are still as healthy and lean as ever (her and Durian Rider) but I still cannot see how eating all that fruit can be good long term. But then I don't think she's eats fatty fruit e.g. Avocados and I think her diet she fairly low fat. So is she healthy because she has basically just stuck to simple sugars and carbohydrates (high carbohydrates, low fat) just like another person would do high protein low carbohydrates? Their lifestyle seems more sustainable though (because eating mostly a lot of protein can leave you constipated like with ketosis). Maybe it's a case of choosing on eor the other or else if you have both you gain weight. Maybe neither are wrong; they just work in their own ways. I don't know but I'm baffled as to how they stay as healthy and lean as they do and have done eating fruit (which people are told to limit when losing weight)since sugar and carbohydrates have been very much deemed the reason for the obesity epidemic. har freelee has done blood tests and shown them and her blood tests are really good, no deficiencies or high sugar readings. I'm not supporting anyone just generally curious? :confused: I'm not more enlightened as to how this works since I started this thread!:P

    Yeah she doesn't eat much avocados. She keeps the fat below 10% which is what many doctors recommend such as Dr john Mcdougall, Dr Neal Barnard who is the president of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, Dr. Michael Greger, Dr Dean Ornish and Dr Kim Williams who is the president of the American College of Cardiology.
    There are no doctors that recommend a high fruit diet but Freelee and Harley judge by results instead of theory. When you eat a sh!t tonne of fruit, it's unreal how good you feel!

    The brain and every other cell in the body runs on glucose. But now everyone thinks carbs make ya fat. I dunno why. I mean, people have gotten most of their calories from carbs/starches since as far back as history is recorded cause they are cheap to produce. Rich people who could afford to eat more meat were always the fat and sick ones. Asians have only started to deviate from their diet of mainly white rice in the last decade or two and are now starting to get fat. We always saw Asians as a slim population.

    And Freelee eats 2 meals a day of fruit and her dinner is always cooked. So she eats a tonne of rice, spuds and pasta too, so not just fruit. Harley does the same. He also adds a lot of sugar to his smoothies to make them sweeter when the fruit isn't top quality. Lol.

    The high carb lifestyle is definitely more sustainable cause you can literally eat as much as you want until you're satisfied. If you aren't satisfied after your meals, then obviously there is something wrong with your diet. Starches are comforting foods, that are full of fiber and digest easily (unless you eat a lot of fat with them). They actually satisfy you and you don't get cravings. As a species we are seekers of carbohydrate. To be honest, it's glaringly obvious when you think about it. I mean, the tip of our tongue tastes sweet food. We can't even taste fat or protein, only carbs (sugar). And did you ever eat a big meal and be full as a fat fu(k and all you want is a sugar hit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,403 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    The high carb lifestyle is definitely more sustainable cause you can literally eat as much as you want until you're satisfied. If you aren't satisfied after your meals, then obviously there is something wrong with your diet. Starches are comforting foods, that are full of fiber and digest easily (unless you eat a lot of fat with them). They actually satisfy you and you don't get cravings. As a species we are seekers of carbohydrate. To be honest, it's glaringly obvious when you think about it. I mean, the tip of our tongue tastes sweet food. We can't even taste fat or protein, only carbs (sugar). And did you ever eat a big meal and be full as a fat fu(k and all you want is a sugar hit?

    Just so we're clear, this is opinion not fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,606 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I googled the first two doctors. Found two vegan focus sites. So not really neutral opinion.
    Some of those associations are completely made up.
    kilkenny12 wrote: »
    The brain and every other cell in the body runs on glucose.
    No cell in the body runs only on glucose.
    Asians have only started to deviate from their diet of mainly white rice in the last decade or two and are now starting to get fat. We always saw Asians as a slim population.
    Sushi, sashimi, pork belly, hoisin duck spring to mind.
    But the whole world is getting fatter.
    The high carb lifestyle is definitely more sustainable cause you can literally eat as much as you want until you're satisfied.
    as much sugar as you want. lol
    Starches are comforting foods, that are full of fiber and digest easily (unless you eat a lot of fat with them).
    Fibre is full of fibre. Not starch. There's no fibre in starch.
    They actually satisfy you and you don't get cravings.
    It's quite obvious that sugar and carbs do give people cravings.
    As a species we are seekers of carbohydrate. To be honest, it's glaringly obvious when you think about it. I mean, the tip of our tongue tastes sweet food.
    That's not true.
    The tip of our tongue tastes no different to the rest. It's a myth.
    We don't see out carbs as a species either, we are omnivores.
    We can't even taste fat or protein, only carbs (sugar).
    We can't taste fat or protein???? Lololol
    That's one maddest thing I've ever heard anyone say.
    Steak, butter, eggs, all sorts of meats really. You saying we can't taste these.
    And did you ever eat a big meal and be full as a fat fu(k and all you want is a sugar hit?
    All you want is a sugar hit?
    You just suggested that we don't crave carbs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    The brain only runs on glucose BUT the body can convert protein to glucose by gluconeogensis in the liver, so you don't actually need to consume carbs at all to survive.

    ps: don't google the above as I may have remembered this incorrectly and I want to pretend I am right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,656 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    JJayoo wrote: »
    The brain only runs on glucose BUT the body can convert protein to glucose by gluconeogensis in the liver, so you don't actually need to consume carbs at all to survive.

    ps: don't google the above as I may have remembered this incorrectly and I want to pretend I am right

    You're not wrong!

    The body is able to break down quite a few amino acids, the glycerol in fat and lactate to form glucose.

    That said, you need a lot more cake carbohydrate if you engage in high intensity exercise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,606 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    JJayoo wrote: »
    The brain only runs on glucose ...
    Not only. The brain can also get energy from Ketones.

    You are correct about gluconeogensis afaik


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