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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Surrealean wrote: »
    Now, I don't fault the agent; he/she was just repeating policy, though it came out as being ridiculously vague. I'm still clueless as to why I can't buy these books.
    My understanding is that it's to do with publishing rights. When you buy a "dead tree" book, you're buying something that's already been published - so there's no hassle with getting the book sent from the .co.uk store.

    However, when you buy for a Kindle, you are effectively publishing the title (not shipping) to your Kindle so then you get into a different area. Publishers divide different countries into different territories for a variety of reasons, such as price control. The long and short of it means that different regions will have publications done in different manners (sometimes to the benefit of the author, sometimes not).
    It's apparently quite difficult to change existing contracts for some authors to get around this as things such as royalties, etc. would have to be re-examined and maybe re-written. Newer books, and their contracts, are written with this in mind so more should be available to us but we'd still probably come under a different publishing contract than the UK. Therefore, the .com site handles the European publishing contracts.

    The territorial region control is not something self-published authors face but some archaic fallout from years ago. I tried to debate this with a few authors on various blogs (which is where my information from above is cribbed) but I've never quite understood how ultimately it benefits them my not being able to give them a sale at all if I'm blocked from all angles.

    I'd recommend reading some of Charles Stross' posts on the subject and the comments on them too for further background. There's a particularly good post ( (link), where he discusses writing contracts and mentions ebook territorial rights.

    Publishers are addressing this - the selection is much better than it was initially. Many titles from my wish list were initially unavailable - there's only about one now that I can't order due to region control. Hopefully all new titles will not have this issue and publishers can work through the legal loopholes and get the full back catalogues.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 460 ✭✭four18


    Ok, I could not buy from amazon uk and the book I wanted was not available on the .com site. I went online to Amazon.uk and then clicked manage my kindle. I changed my address to a Cineworld in Hull ! I then bought a Swish Mastercard for 5.99 went online registered it to my normal Dublin Adress and topped it up by 20 euro ( make sure you buy the chip and pin type available in 1000s of paypoint shops in Ireland.
    Next back to manage my kindle and input your card details. Back to Kindle books and pick your books and click on one click ordering. Books delivered instantly to your kindle wirelessly. Bought 2 today, Bit of running around at the start but now I just have to keep the Mastercard topped up when I want to buy.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,505 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Interesting. Where did you buy that Mastercard?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 460 ✭✭four18


    List of shops selling them on this page, Be sure to get chip and pn version and it works because your Mastercard number never changes, you just top up as needed. There is a 2.95 surcharge when you top up from 10 euro to 350 euro and if you need cash you can use it in atm's because you have a pin no too. It worked a treat on Amazon.co.uk because the guy I spoke to at swirlcard (Paypoint) said Amazon or anyone other shop on the net cannot tell where the card was bought. They dont really care as long as they get paid !!

    http://www.swirlcard.com/


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,505 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Oh, perhaps it could be used abroad even if you have credit and debit cards, but don't want to carry a large amount of cash or travellers cheques.

    Is there a fee per online transaction, such as per each e-book if we're talking about amazon as an example? http://www.swirlcard.com/faqs_mastercard.php?country=ie&type=mastercard Are you unable to top up online?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭mw3guc


    I have a couple of addresses assigned to my Amazon account, one of which is in NI. My Kindle account is linked to this NI one and has been from date of purchase (June 2011). I have an Irish based Mastercard and my IP location is south of the border also. I never have any difficulty buying Kindle books via One Click and Amazon UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭one man clappin


    I changed my details as per Juke's instructions on post #108. I downloaded a free book yesterday off the .co.uk site, but this morning got the following email. Do I just continue as normal and purchased from the .co.uk site?
    Email from amazon.co.uk

    Hello,

    I see that you attempted to purchase "A Christmas Carol The original manuscript " while in a different country than United Kingdom listed on your Amazon account. Certain Kindle titles are not available everywhere. We are reaching out to you to ensure the best possible service for your account.

    If you have moved to a different country, you can easily update your country for your Amazon account at www.amazon.co.uk/manageyourkindle

    If this is not the case, and you would like to share information that you live in United Kingdom, we can be reached by fax at +44 (0) 20 8636 9326 from outside the UK, or 020 8636 9326 from within the UK. Helpful information includes:

    – Passport
    – Military ID
    – Driving Licence

    We want to assure you that we handle this information in a secure manner: these are dedicated fax lines, staffed in an area with limited employee access. The fax is never printed, just converted to an electronic image that is used to check the country, then the image is deleted.

    Best regards,
    Account Specialist
    Amazon.co.uk
    Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    :(

    This has never happened to me, and my account is currently registered to the .co.uk. I'm based in Dublin.

    Did you buy from a PC or directly from the Kindle?
    Is you wifi/3g turned off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭one man clappin


    I purchased using the kindle, using wifi. I turn off wifi as soon as download is completed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    They most likely used your IP address to determine you weren't in the UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    I purchased using the kindle, using wifi. I turn off wifi as soon as download is completed.

    I purchase from the PC, not the kindle, but download directly to the kindle. I turn wifi on only to complete the download, and turn it off straight away again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭mw3guc


    juke wrote: »
    I purchase from the PC, not the kindle, but download directly to the kindle. I turn wifi on only to complete the download, and turn it off straight away again.

    ^^^ This is what I do and I have had no problems with Kindle books (so far).
    Could it be that the direct download to the Kindle flags up the IP to Amazon in a more obvious way than the PC? I do know, though, that I cannot purchase MP3s from my Amazon account via the PC, even with the NI address on my account.
    If all else fails, I suppose a proxy might work ... But maybe not, as I can't get the MP3s with a proxy either :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Anyone any recommendations for a good reading light ? All the ones on the Amazon.com and .co.uk site are out of stock with no sign of them being back any time soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭richardw001


    You want the book cover with light ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I want it, but don't need it ! My wife got me a cover with my Kindle so I don't want to stop using that so just want the light really.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Change your country in your account from Ireland to uk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭richardw001


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I want it, but don't need it ! My wife got me a cover with my Kindle so I don't want to stop using that so just want the light really.

    Well I used one of these while I was waiting for the lighted book cover and found it fine - not as convient as having the integrated light however it did the job


    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mighty-Bright-MiniFlex-Reading-Kindle/dp/B003FZA1MY/ref=pd_cp_ce_2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Yeah, was looking at that the other day but the despatch schedule is 3-4 weeks. They have the white one in stock but want to go with the black/graphite colour.

    Edit. Picked this one up on the way home while stopping at Tesco for dinner, it was 28.99 but had some vouchers so wasn't too bad compared to online prices, only had it in white though.
    http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Clip-Reading-Light-Kindle/dp/B003HKRVAW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭richardw001


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Yeah, was looking at that the other day but the despatch schedule is 3-4 weeks. They have the white one in stock but want to go with the black/graphite colour.

    Edit. Picked this one up on the way home while stopping at Tesco for dinner, it was 28.99 but had some vouchers so wasn't too bad compared to online prices, only had it in white though.
    http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Clip-Reading-Light-Kindle/dp/B003HKRVAW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    Cool - pity that you didnt get it in the price reductions - I reckon that was probably reduced to a few cents a couple of weeks back :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I think it was part of a price reduction, it was highlighted as a special buy and just after Christmas week I spotted it in another Tesco for around €40.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭richardw001


    seems a bit pricey for a reading light - however I guess if it does the job then its worth it - youre happy with the Kindle anyways ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    It's actually in the middle of the scale compared to what you can get online, cheapest I saw in store in Ireland, in fact it's pretty hard to find anything like that at the moment. There's two settings, don't think I'd ever use the brightest one unless I was using it as a torch. It's like the way things were when the iPod first came out, accessories were hard to find in bricks and mortar stores and those you could find were pricey.

    Anyway, yeah, delighted with my Kindle. I was always sceptical of them and said I'd stick with books even though I love gadgets but once I had a look at one I wanted it. I would have been very disappointed if Santy didn't drop one off for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭mw3guc


    I bought a small clip on (generic) LED light that works perfectly attached to my unbranded (also cheap) Kindle cover. Price? About £2 in Asda :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Mine cost more so it's obviously better :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭mw3guc


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Mine cost more so it's obviously better :D
    I'm sure you're right - the more expensive quality of light probably enhances the reading experience by oh ... about 0% :D
    Not to mention the fact that I can afford to buy more books as a result of paying less for the light ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Zimmerframe


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Mine cost more so it's obviously better :D

    Quite likely in this case. :D
    Some of the cheap lights are terrible, as they have a bright "hotspot" on the kindle screen, which is extremely annoying when reading, while some lights with a better designed diffuser spread the light even across the "page"
    I got the "Verso" one, about a tenner and it's quite good.

    Of course a good cheap light, is better than a good expensive light though. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭jayzee


    mw3guc wrote: »
    I bought a small clip on (generic) LED light that works perfectly attached to my unbranded (also cheap) Kindle cover. Price? About £2 in Asda :D

    where did you get the cheap Kindle cover?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I'm only taking the mick about pricier being better, but it's a good one anyway. I may have complaints from my wife that it's too bright if I ever have a quick late night read though so I'll have to point it in the opposite direction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭mw3guc


    jayzee wrote: »
    where did you get the cheap Kindle cover?

    Surprisingly, I got it from Amazon UK - they have quite a few ranging from around £5 up at the moment. I added a few things to my order so that it qualified for free shipping. It does the job and looks grand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭mw3guc


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I'm only taking the mick about pricier being better, but it's a good one anyway. I may have complaints from my wife that it's too bright if I ever have a quick late night read though so I'll have to point it in the opposite direction.

    Under the duvet works too, like when you were a kid reading a comic. And so much easier with no pages to turn :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 460 ✭✭four18


    I got a lovely good quality cover in the ilac for 15 euro. bit dear but it looks the biz


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Got a kindle for Xmas, love it! I'm not buying my books from amazon though as I'm not a "drm" fan.

    All I can say is thank to Tar, your cover built up enough envy in me to go digital :-P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Re lights, these were for sale in Tesco for 10 quid or so and go well with my Kindle.
    http://www.energizer.com/lighting-products/everyday/Pages/led-book.aspx

    A bit too bright if anything (you have to angle it away rather than directly at the Kindle).


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Mactard wrote: »
    Got a kindle for Xmas, love it! I'm not buying my books from amazon though as I'm not a "drm" fan.

    All I can say is thank to Tar, your cover built up enough envy in me to go digital :-P

    Ahaha! You got it too? I have it sitting one foot away from me. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    The ma and da both got kindles for Christmas off each other. My da got a cover with his so my ma was feeling left out.

    I decided to make this for her earlier.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    blastman wrote: »
    My Kindle Touch landed this morning, looks very nice. It's supposed to be a Christmas present so I'm refraining from taking off the plastic screen cover in case I'm not allowed it yet! Cost me €94, pleased enough with that.

    Hey blastman,

    My dad inlaw got a touch from the US too, as a Christmas pres. Have you been able to register it and buy books through the online store without any problems? I am afraid that one would have to have a US based credit card :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Zooopy42


    I got a cover with a light on ebay for €6


  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭kildaremum


    Cover with light for 6 on ebay, can you post a link to the seller so I can have a look - thank you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Zooopy42


    this is where i got the cover
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/RED-LEATHER-CASE-COVER-LED-READING-LIGHT-AMAZON-KINDLE-3-/140677593482?pt=UK_iPad_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item20c109b98a

    You have to bid for it but there is loads of them in different colours, so no one will bid against you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭Brian017


    Hey blastman,

    My dad inlaw got a touch from the US too, as a Christmas pres. Have you been able to register it and buy books through the online store without any problems? I am afraid that one would have to have a US based credit card :(

    No an Irish card will do fine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Brian017 wrote: »
    No an Irish card will do fine

    Cheers Brian :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭kildaremum


    Great - thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    NicoleL88 wrote: »

    you cannot get the Kindle Touch or Kindle Fire. Its for US customers only.

    How long is this going to be the case for? I'm looking to get a Kindle Touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    blastman wrote: »
    My Kindle Touch landed this morning, looks very nice. It's supposed to be a Christmas present so I'm refraining from taking off the plastic screen cover in case I'm not allowed it yet! Cost me €94, pleased enough with that.

    Blastman

    Where did you buy from? And how did you get it shipped to Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭MiniNukinfuts


    I recently got a kindle touch from america, bought it off an american seller on eBay. I bought the wifi+3g model, and the total was €145. I created a new american amazon account, and added my visa to it.

    the only problem is that now, i only have the american store, so i can't get the uk/ ireland content.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭podgec10


    Mactard wrote: »
    Got a kindle for Xmas, love it! I'm not buying my books from amazon though as I'm not a "drm" fan.

    All I can say is thank to Tar, your cover built up enough envy in me to go digital :-P


    Where will you get your books from for the kindle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭richardw001


    podgec10 wrote: »
    Where will you get your books from for the kindle?

    Download Calibre - Type in the book you want - and it gives you lots of different options to buy.
    Once downloaded you can convert to mobi format if you choose not to buy from amazon and copy onto the Kindle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭podgec10


    Excellent, going to try that later.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Lighter


    Can the kindle be bought in dixons in dublin airport and if so how much does it cost.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Dublin Mark


    Lighter wrote: »
    Can the kindle be bought in dixons in dublin airport and if so how much does it cost.

    Thanks

    You can get one in Swords - PC World sell them. Got mine there for the Mrs


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