Bloodborne (From Software / Sony)

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 11:12am

Pac1Man wrote: »

Are you grinding at all Nick? I had my few favourite areas where I would bump myself up a couple of levels if needs be.

It definitely helped my progression knowing I could handily take a couple of unanswered hits.

Early on I was too tentative walking into new areas, peering into every nook and cranny hoping I wouldn't get jumped. After a bit of leveling up I was more like...

Oh I definitely am grinding. I fly through Yharnham old and central and grand cathedral slaughtering everyone. Current stats:
Level 70
Vitality 28
Endurance 21
Strenght 28
Skill 25
Bloodtinge 9
Arcane 9

I want to get my strength to 30 cause I have this beast roar thing and I can't use it yet. Will get it after a quick run back later after work.

Pac1Man · 08-05-2017 11:28am

Get that endurance up! It will literally save your life multiple times over and will allow you to perform multiple heavy attacks.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 11:55am

Pac1Man wrote: »

Get that endurance up! It will literally save your life multiple times over and will allow you to perform multiple heavy attacks.

I had being upping it regularly at the start, I focused on HP and Endurance. Then started on strength and skill. I'll start looking at it again soon for sure.

nix · 08-05-2017 12:58pm

Its not that necessary to pump over 20 into endurance imo, you will get runes later on that will increase it a great deal, you can get one that does 5%, then 10% and lastly 15%. Same for HP, the other runes you can get are pretty meh

Also the beast roar is crappy, i wouldnt bother with it. In fact the majority of equipable spells are sh!t.

SeantheMan · 08-05-2017 1:26pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Oh I definitely am grinding. I fly through Yharnham old and central and grand cathedral slaughtering everyone. Current stats:
Level 70
Vitality 28
Endurance 21
Strenght 28
Skill 25
Bloodtinge 9
Arcane 9

I want to get my strength to 30 cause I have this beast roar thing and I can't use it yet. Will get it after a quick run back later after work.

I just checked to compare as I think I'm a similar place to you...just loaded the game and "YOU DIED" came up...so I guess I must have raged last time.

I remember now, I'm at at the Jail place running to some boss

Current stats:
Level 50
Vitality 24
Endurance 21
Strenght 26
Skill 15
Bloodtinge 8
Arcane 6

Insight 13

Using Ludwigs Holy blade +6

So am I underlevelled ?

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 1:44pm

I fought that fast magic bastard in the college by myself for a while

found Ludwigs heavy sword and far paper did him great damage

(presume if I summoned he would have too?)

Got a key to

nowhere, some ****er in a rocking chair who doesn't speak

08-05-2017 1:47pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

I fought that fast magic bastard in the college by myself for a while
found Ludwigs heavy sword and far paper did him great damage
(presume if I summoned he would have too?)

Got a key to
nowhere, some ****er in a rocking chair who doesn't speak

jump off the edge

Oh and kill that guy first.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 1:51pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

I just checked to compare as I think I'm a similar place to you...just loaded the game and "YOU DIED" came up...so I guess I must have raged last time.

I remember now, I'm at at the Jail place running to some boss

Current stats:
Level 50
Vitality 24
Endurance 21
Strenght 26
Skill 15
Bloodtinge 8
Arcane 6

Insight 13

Using Ludwigs Holy blade +6

So am I underlevelled ?

Think that's Dark beast Paarl or something he's a fecker of a Boss. What have you been getting with your echoes? I spend mine mostly on levelling and molotovs.

I have runes working already. My insight was 24 at some point. I bought a good few fire papers from them

Enfilade - seriously?

SeantheMan · 08-05-2017 2:22pm

I don't know what the deal with insight is...I have loads of Madmans sitting there.
I usually spend them on levels, but I progressed pretty quickly early on in the game, not much grinding...prob from being fresh off/ in the middle of a Dark Souls marathon buzz.

nix · 08-05-2017 2:41pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Enfilade - seriously?

Yup,

jump into the lake below, the old fecker in the chair points towards it to, boss battle below

Digital Solitude · 08-05-2017 3:25pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

I just checked to compare as I think I'm a similar place to you...just loaded the game and "YOU DIED" came up...so I guess I must have raged last time.

I remember now, I'm at at the Jail place running to some boss

Current stats:
Level 50
Vitality 24
Endurance 21
Strenght 26
Skill 15
Bloodtinge 8
Arcane 6

Insight 13

Using Ludwigs Holy blade +6

So am I underlevelled ?

Have you gone past Byrgenwryth yet? If not, you're probably fine for levelling, if you've beaten Byrgenwryth then you're under levelled. I was very under levelled my first run too, think I was L.63 the first time I beat it? Most of the ones here were 90-odd. I figure with Souls experience you pick up the game faster and don't get those crucial early levels where you might rack up a few in one area, whereas I was mainly only levelling up after bosses.

The Arcane weapons are a bit **** until your arcane gets higher, A Call Beyond and the Executioners Gloves are fairly good but you need like 30 Arcane to utilise them well, which isn't worth it unless you're making a meta build.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 3:26pm

Right ROM should be easy. But I always have no health left with two strike remaining. Pain in the arse.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 3:30pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

I don't know what the deal with insight is...I have loads of Madmans sitting there.
I usually spend them on levels, but I progressed pretty quickly early on in the game, not much grinding...prob from being fresh off/ in the middle of a Dark Souls marathon buzz.

Madman s knowledge raises the difficulty. I know when I got to 15 insight some folk got new moves like the dudes with lights in cathedral ward.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 5:17pm

Feck that man after dealing with Witches, Shadows, Hunter in college I can't be fecked arsing with ROM. Almost had him first go then ran out of health. Never got that close again. Gonna find me way to the client in through forbidden wood's, hopefully find a lot of loot too.

nix · 08-05-2017 5:41pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Feck that man after dealing with Witches, Shadows, Hunter in college I can't be fecked arsing with ROM. Almost had him first go then ran out of health. Never got that close again. Gonna find me way to the client in through forbidden wood's, hopefully find a lot of loot too.

With ROM, slow and steady wins the race. It's one of them annoying long fights, but even with that, i still always try and just rinse him as fast as possible. But when i first fought him, i just grinded him down, killing the spiders one by one..

Bolt paper is your friend.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 5:53pm

nix wrote: »

With ROM, slow and steady wins the race. It's one of them annoying long fights, but even with that, i still always try and just rinse him as fast as possible. But when i first fought him, i just grinded him down, killing the spiders one by one..

Bolt paper is your friend.

Ran out of bolt paper. I wasn't even bothering with the little ones unless they bothered me. How would I acquire more paper? Neither messenger shop sells it oddly enough

Digital Solitude · 08-05-2017 6:20pm

The insight one sells it after you beat Darkveast Paarl

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 6:30pm

Ha Deadly, have done just that as got fed up with ROM.

new way to old yarnham and all

. It was tough going there for a minute. Both down to last drop of health. Matter of who hit who first. Thank fcuk I did :pac:

Pac1Man · 08-05-2017 6:42pm

With Rom, he has three phases. After you knock a certain amount of health off him he will disappear and begin his second more aggressive phase, however the babies will remain! Same with the third.

For the first two phases, focus purely on the babies. Their weak spot is from behind just like Rom. Wait until they are about to jump on you, dodge out of the way and you are left with an easy kill.

The third and final phase was a bit different for me. I focused on getting close to Rom and doing damage while knocking off a few babies when needed. You will start to recognise his attack patterns too.

08-05-2017 6:44pm

The reason it's for sale after beating Paarl is the item he drops, those badges determine whats for sale at the messengers.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 6:47pm

Didnt kill Djura this time round. Should I? I approached him on the roof and we talked, he gave me a badge of a powder keg hunter and a gesturr. He gave me a choice, kill beasts or don't in old Yharnham. I said no hunting in Old Yharnham which is why I got said gifts. On my way back was attacked so hit one of them. You devious, you really are a hunter aren't you. The beasts will feed tonight. Am I fckd now when I enter Old Yarnham again? Might watch an alternative on YouTube

F1ngers · 08-05-2017 6:49pm

Ignore the babies, only focusing on Rom is the best way imo.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 6:54pm

F1ngers wrote: »

Ignore the babies, only focusing on Rom is the best way imo.

What I've been doing, only focusing on babies when they start diminishing health.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 6:56pm

Sorry for all the Qs. I got a tonsil stone to be used in a makeshift church to the right if the main cathedral. I can't find it. I went out back where those bolt hunters were and k ocked on doors there as thought they looked right but first the said blood blood now they just shriek and squeal.

Digital Solitude · 08-05-2017 8:20pm

Its further down that path, you're in the right direction though.

I'd recommend killing the spiders for phase one, Rom doesn't attack during this phase so no reason not to, kill the babies and work his health down a bit slowly.

Then Bolt up your weapon, get a full stamina bar and go hell for leather until he tries to teleport, if you have a strong enough weapon with enough stamina you can stagger him and take off 50% of his health, if not more.

If the spiders are still about its pretty much impossible to get the stagger I've found.

Once you hit phase two and three just pick off a few babies to give yourself more breathing room and focus on Rom.

Doctor Nick · 08-05-2017 8:25pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Its further down that path, you're in the right direction though.

I'd recommend killing the spiders for phase one, Rom doesn't attack during this phase so no reason not to, kill the babies and work his health down a bit slowly.

Then Bolt up your weapon, get a full stamina bar and go hell for leather until he tries to teleport, if you have a strong enough weapon with enough stamina you can stagger him and take off 50% of his health, if not more.

If the spiders are still about its pretty much impossible to get the stagger I've found.

Once you hit phase two and three just pick off a few babies to give yourself more breathing room and focus on Rom.

The big room with the frenzy kill? I just got done in there.

Doctor Nick · 09-05-2017 9:30am

One last Q folks, just wondering if there is anything I should be doing/have done before I go back to ROM. I've been reading that the game changes substantially afterwards and want to get all I can while it's still obtainable.

Thanks,

nix · 09-05-2017 12:22pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

One last Q folks, just wondering if there is anything I should be doing/have done before I go back to ROM. I've been reading that the game changes substantially afterwards and want to get all I can while it's still obtainable.

Thanks,

Its the last chance to obtain all of the NPC's, as in send them to the chapel or clinic. Just make sure to get Arianna (send her to chapel), shes the only important one, you get a key item from her after killing rom.

And you wont be able to go back to Hypogean Gaol, so make sure you got everything from there..

Doctor Nick · 09-05-2017 12:51pm

nix wrote: »

Its the last chance to obtain all of the NPC's, as in send them to the chapel or clinic. Just make sure to get Arianna (send her to chapel), shes the only important one, you get a key item from her after killing rom.

And you wont be able to go back to Hypogean Gaol, so make sure you got everything from there..

Thanks. Pretty sure I got them, did I leave out anyone? I'll spoiler this just in case

The old woman, Arianna and the bloke who lives across from her disappeared as well, The Beggar. Fr Gascoignes daughter gone presumed dead, sister not shown up yet.

nix · 09-05-2017 1:15pm

You never get to see

Gascoignes daughters, the holy woman should be there though, unless you sent her to the clinic? Not important anyway,
Arianna is the only important one.

Doctor Nick · 09-05-2017 1:33pm

nix wrote: »

You never get to see
Gascoignes daughters, the holy woman should be there though, unless you sent her to the clinic? Not important anyway,
Arianna is the only important one.

Oops, don't think I got her with this save file. The

begger seems to be killing everyone I sent

. Need to sort this mess I made.

Doctor Nick · 09-05-2017 2:31pm

Absolutely raging I didn't discover

begger transformed to beast

by myself (resorted to wiki) as that was probably my favourite beast fight yet. Creepy visuals. Anyone else do it?

09-05-2017 3:04pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Absolutely raging I didn't discover
begger transformed to beast
by myself (resorted to wiki) as that was probably my favourite beast fight yet. Creepy visuals. Anyone else do it?

I'm not sure why but I declined to to tell him about the church when I met him and ended up

fighting him in beast form on the roof. Think I'd seen signs along the way that made me feel uneasy about him but that was definately the best place to fight him as you could hide in the windmill and cheese him, telling him about the church I believe would have dire consequences

Digital Solitude · 09-05-2017 4:09pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not sure why but I declined to to tell him about the church when I met him and ended up
fighting him in beast form on the roof. Think I'd seen signs along the way that made me feel uneasy about him but that was definately the best place to fight him as you could hide in the windmill and cheese him, telling him about the church I believe would have dire consequences

I had the same experience, I met him crying over the dead bodies and thought "this guys up to some sneaky ****", tried to fight him, he kicked the crap out of me, so I left him there.

nix · 09-05-2017 4:18pm

haha, he's not crying over the dead bodies, he's eating them

Best place to send him is the clinic, unless you want to fight him in the beast form, and hes a tough bastard then..

Digital Solitude · 09-05-2017 4:30pm

nix wrote: »

haha, he's not crying over the dead bodies, he's eating them

Best place to send him is the clinic, unless you want to fight him in the beast form, and hes a tough bastard then..

Instincts were still sound

Doctor Nick · 09-05-2017 6:10pm

I actually meant audio rather than visuals. The way he says you hunt beasts, you are the beast or something was just brilliant I thought.

Guys, being honest I'm getting very annoyed with this game right now. ROM fight wasn't working out so went back to clinic and fell out with Iosefka for going into her place. Went nightmare frontier and had a fantastic fight with 2NPC hunters. Then I get KO'd with a rock by a giant throwing from a mile away and lose 20K echoes and then killed again (ran out of health) before retrieving. It's seriously pissing me off and think I'll have to take a break for a while.

09-05-2017 10:50pm

Oh those f'n rock chuckers :mad:

Theres one point I had to run the gauntlet because there were 3 or 4 of them and I wasn't able to take them out without the others seeing.

09-05-2017 10:55pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

I actually meant audio rather than visuals. The way he says you hunt beasts, you are the beast or something was just brilliant I thought.

Guys, being honest I'm getting very annoyed with this game right now. ROM fight wasn't working out so went back to clinic and fell out with Iosefka for going into her place. Went nightmare frontier and had a fantastic fight with 2NPC hunters. Then I get KO'd with a rock by a giant throwing from a mile away and lose 20K echoes and then killed again (ran out of health) before retrieving. It's seriously pissing me off and think I'll have to take a break for a while.

I took a break of 6 months with ROM, then killed him in my first attempt after trying again

I love These games, but I do think some of the bosses ruin them, especially when it goes from one boss, directly to another boss.

09-05-2017 10:56pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

I actually meant audio rather than visuals. The way he says you hunt beasts, you are the beast or something was just brilliant I thought.

Guys, being honest I'm getting very annoyed with this game right now. ROM fight wasn't working out so went back to clinic and fell out with Iosefka for going into her place. Went nightmare frontier and had a fantastic fight with 2NPC hunters. Then I get KO'd with a rock by a giant throwing from a mile away and lose 20K echoes and then killed again (ran out of health) before retrieving. It's seriously pissing me off and think I'll have to take a break for a while.

Add me from coop!!

nix · 09-05-2017 11:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I love These games, but I do think some of the bosses ruin them

Nah rom is quite easy once you know what to do, i could show you a video of a guy killing rom in less than 60 seconds, but i wont :P

Doctor Nick · 10-05-2017 6:45am

I don't know how to multi quote, will reply as follows:

Enfilade it just felt unfair :pac: I didn't see the big hunk of rock at all and was feeling chuffed at taking out 2 hunters together so got some sinking feeling haha. Got past them later and got frenzy killed 2 seconds later. It's like I'm starting all over again. Just need to re-adjust.

Brother Andy I want to stop but probably won't. Atm only other game I've interest in and sitting there is Dark Souls 3 :pac:

Can't do coop Mick, no PS+. Thanks for offer.

I've resorted to videos, saw one last night they looked do able. Just need to grind those health viles again.

I think I just having a bad gaming few hours yesterday. I'll keep at it I'm sure.

10-05-2017 6:53am

nix wrote: »

Nah rom is quite easy once you know what to do, i could show you a video of a guy killing rom in less than 60 seconds, but i wont :P

Believe me, I think I watched every YouTube video. A lot of those quick kills were done before From Software updated the game.

Currently on Darl Souls 3, after taking a year long break after trying to kill the Dragonslayer guy. Finally did it, now straight onto another impossible boss :-(

Doctor Nick · 10-05-2017 7:14am

I only went and fcuking done it. Die ROM you scumbag nearly destroying the game for me. Won't be able to concentrate in work today.

Doctor Nick · 10-05-2017 7:17am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Believe me, I think I watched every YouTube video. A lot of those quick kills were done before From Software updated the game.

Currently on Darl Souls 3, after taking a year long break after trying to kill the Dragonslayer guy. Finally did it, now straight onto another impossible boss :-(

This one was good, took me about 2 minutes and 13 health viles.
Ooh this is eery now.

Doctor Nick · 10-05-2017 8:27am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Believe me, I think I watched every YouTube video. A lot of those quick kills were done before From Software updated the game.

Currently on Darl Souls 3, after taking a year long break after trying to kill the Dragonslayer guy. Finally did it, now straight onto another impossible boss :-(

Did you stick with this till the end Andy?

I played a further 15 mins after defeating ROM where the enemies keep respawning. I've an idea of what I need to do from doing the chalice dungeons but these normal run of the mill villagers have got some strength now. Keep thinking that's it,they can't possibly pump up difficulty anymore yet I'm proven wrong every single time.

I think I'm committed to this now before I get stuck into my first ever Souls game.

10-05-2017 2:05pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

Did you stick with this till the end Andy?

I played a further 15 mins after defeating ROM where the enemies keep respawning. I've an idea of what I need to do from doing the chalice dungeons but these normal run of the mill villagers have got some strength now. Keep thinking that's it,they can't possibly pump up difficulty anymore yet I'm proven wrong every single time.

I think I'm committed to this now before I get stuck into my first ever Souls game.

I did stick with it and finished it. . Absolutely amazing game, locations, characters and sound design. It's just a shame about some of the bosses (in my opinion) It's not always being killed that's the annoying part, it's the loading screen and run back to the boss that's the real pain in the a:s

Well done on killing ROM!!!!!!!! It feels good doesn't it. Some good fun levels ahead of you. Is your insight very high? I believe this makes enemies tougher if it is

Doctor Nick · 10-05-2017 3:00pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is your insight very high? I believe this makes enemies tougher if it is

Once you go beyond 15 Insight (not sure if happens again) the enemies AI changes and they get new moves, attack patterns (e.g. The blokes patrolling Grand Cathedral at 15 insight their lamps grow eyes and do some longer range arcane attack). I traded a load of insight for bolt paper.

It felt brilliant getting past ROM- I was just having my morning coffee before work and said I'd chance this and after 2 mins "Prey slaughtered". Couldn't believe it and was actually shaking with adrenaline. Who would have thought a game could do that? Haha.

Have to say the Blood moon level design looks and sounds amazing but I've noticed a lot of stuttering and lagging (presume this is FPS related). I've been leaving console in rest mode to charge earphones so turned it completely off and hoping it stops as that would ruin an otherwise unique experience for me.

Digital Solitude · 10-05-2017 6:22pm

Doctor Nick wrote: »

It felt brilliant getting past ROM- I was just having my morning coffee before work and said I'd chance this and after 2 mins "Prey slaughtered". Couldn't believe it and was actually shaking with adrenaline. Who would have thought a game could do that? Haha.

This just made me smile

I love seeing people experiencing these games for the first time

10-05-2017 6:59pm

I think these games have been the only ones to ever give me the "rattles" playing them

Bloodborne (From Software / Sony)

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