Bloodborne (From Software / Sony)

tok9 · 30-03-2015 10:09am

Kirby wrote: »

Leveling doesn't make a massive difference anyway. Whether you are level 20 or 40, most encounters will feel the same in this. All the weapons have really low str and skill requirements, you dont need high endurance because there is no blocking and rolling/dodging takes very little stamina.

Upgrading your weapons is something you will notice however so do that.

Oh ya I agree but in this case vitality definitely needs to be levelled up as that boss has at least 3 attacks that will 1 hit kill me in that co op session.

Zero-Cool · 30-03-2015 10:10am

I looked up a a vid about that back attack and have to say it will be a game changer for me, my favourite move at the moment is sneaking up and hitting guys in the back with a charged R2 Kirkhammer hammer attack. Dunno, how I didn't manage an R1 animation after that, must have been just pressing R1 too fast.

Ah Tok that explains a lot, when I went into Mick's world, I had about half health. I just figured your stats get halved if you get summoned

Kirby · 30-03-2015 10:10am

tok9 wrote: »

Oh ya I agree but in this case vitality definitely needs to be levelled up as that boss has at least 3 attacks that will 1 hit kill me in that co op session.

Coop rules are different though. You have a nerfed health bar and the bosses health and attack damage changes.

Kirby · 30-03-2015 10:12am

I'd also like to add that the flamethrower looks ridiculous. :P

tok9 · 30-03-2015 10:20am

Hmmm I see.. I clearly don't know enough yet on what exactly changes in co op.

I assumed it reduces stats similar to what the host has but I didn't know enemies cause more damage.

Kirby · 30-03-2015 10:25am

tok9 wrote: »

Hmmm I see.. I clearly don't know enough yet on what exactly changes in co op.

I assumed it reduces stats similar to what the host has but I didn't know enemies cause more damage.

I'm not sure if its just that you have less health or that they do more or a combination of both. But it does feel different. I've done a ton of co op with randomers. The problem is I always disappear when we kill the boss. It would be nice to stick around a bit. I'm hoping that increasing the size of my friends list will help with that.

I'm around tonight at around 8ish I think if anybody wants to team up. The level limit applies from Dark souls so bear that in mind. For example, if i'm level 40, I can only play with people ranging from level 26-54. I'm assuming that applies to friends too and not just randomers.

Retr0gamer · 30-03-2015 10:26am

Online needs some major optimisation. Tried some PvP last night and it was a lagfest. I think I'll set my online to local instead of worldwide. The framerate hit was ridiculous for online. I hope From patch that soon.

Mickeroo · 30-03-2015 10:28am

I see some folks are on NG+ already, is it a smaller game than DS1 and DS2 then?

FlyingIrishMan · 30-03-2015 10:51am

Xenji wrote: »

How long did it take? 26-30 hours seem to be the norm for the main story on a speed run, 40-50 hours for a complete run.

Took me 26hours. Exact same length dark souls 1 took me.
I've completed most of the optional bosses, but there was a few NPC side quests I missed, so I probably could get another 3-4 hours out of it doing them.

tok9 · 30-03-2015 10:54am

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Took me 26hours. Exact same length dark souls 1 took me.
I've completed most of the optional bosses, but there was a few NPC side quests I missed, so I probably could get another 3-4 hours out of it doing them.

Wow.. that seems really fast. And you beat Dark Souls that quickly too! I think I put at least 60 hours into Dark Souls and even still missed optional bosses before completing it.

Zero-Cool · 30-03-2015 10:58am

Title says it all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FbUtrQjLeU

Zero-Cool · 30-03-2015 11:00am

Actually, can anyone help me with a note left on the ground. Can't remember where but it was a dead end and the note said 'Reeks of Tonsil' or something like that. Had over a hundred likes. Didn't get it at all though

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 30-03-2015 11:12am

tok9 wrote: »

There isn't a cap but that does sound pretty high. I don't think I was that high when I faced the third boss.

Kirby wrote: »

Leveling doesn't make a massive difference anyway. Whether you are level 20 or 40, most encounters will feel the same in this. All the weapons have really low str and skill requirements, you dont need high endurance because there is no blocking and rolling/dodging takes very little stamina. More health is somewhat helpful but some enemies have scaling damage so having more health isn't as important as avoiding damage.

Upgrading your weapons is something you will notice however so do that.

Thanks guys, it's my first time playing a game like this. I spent two hours yesterday trying to beat the werewolf at the start with my bare hands. I couldn't figure out how to arm the feckin weapons. I nearly fcuked the PS4 out the window.

YouSavedMyLife · 30-03-2015 11:52am

sheehy83 wrote: »

Actually, can anyone help me with a note left on the ground. Can't remember where but it was a dead end and the note said 'Reeks of Tonsil' or something like that. Had over a hundred likes. Didn't get it at all though

There is a key item called Tonsil Stone or something that you need to pass there. The stone is got

In the forbidden forest. In the starting area where there are lots of human enemies one of the huts has a window you can knock on and talk to an NPC. Hes gives you the stone

thorbarry · 30-03-2015 12:02pm

Is there any way of checking how many hours you have played?

tok9 · 30-03-2015 12:04pm

thorbarry wrote: »

Is there any way of checking how many hours you have played?

Before you start your game. At the main menu go into load game.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 30-03-2015 12:05pm

thorbarry wrote: »

Is there any way of checking how many hours you have played?

I think maybe before you access the game, press options (with the game highlighted and go to properties on the menu. That might give it to you.

SpaceSasqwatch · 30-03-2015 1:05pm

sheehy83 wrote: »

Title says it all...

lol

Xenji · 30-03-2015 1:32pm

Still no sign of this from Amazon, thankfully I have Pillars of Eternity, but the wait is killing me.

FortuneChip · 30-03-2015 1:52pm

So, anyone want to kill Blood Starved Beast for me?

Zero-Cool · 30-03-2015 2:02pm

FortuneChip wrote: »

So, anyone want to kill Blood Starved Beast for me?

You can get a hand from

an NPC Alfred just before the boss room. I believe it only works if you have met him already.

ShadowHearth · 30-03-2015 2:05pm

Got to the first boss. Another 6k souls lost lol. At least I made some progress. Nice to see level design to be a cluster**** like in DM and DS1.

Looks like you dont need to kill first boss to be able to upgrade stats, you just need to meet him.

Work in 1h, when I am back home I will continue as I am off for next few days.

Gummy Panda · 30-03-2015 2:06pm

FortuneChip wrote: »

So, anyone want to kill Blood Starved Beast for me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNVFo--i57Y

Sephiroth_dude · 30-03-2015 2:08pm

My copy arrived,let the pain and rage begin :mad:

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Josey Wales · 30-03-2015 2:22pm

Are there any stats you should be concentrating on levelling at the beginning?

Retr0gamer · 30-03-2015 2:29pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Looks like you dont need to kill first boss to be able to upgrade stats, you just need to meet him.

You need 1 insight which seems to accumulate by +1 every time you take on a boss, you don't even need to defeat them.

cloud493 · 30-03-2015 2:41pm

You can gain insight with madmans knowledge, which you can find in the sewer before the boss.

Digital Solitude · 30-03-2015 2:46pm

Josey Wales wrote: »

Are there any stats you should be concentrating on levelling at the beginning?

Vitality and Endurance.

I just used up all my insight, and the doll isn't alive, but I can still level up. Which may be a bug I wonder?

Retr0gamer · 30-03-2015 3:01pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Vitality and Endurance.

I just used up all my insight, and the doll isn't alive, but I can still level up. Which may be a bug I wonder?

Just takes 1 insight to awaken her, after that it doesn't matter how much insight you have.

Digital Solitude · 30-03-2015 3:06pm

Just some up in the

Village of getting one shotted horse****. Those bag carrying things are tougher than hunters

J. Marston · 30-03-2015 3:56pm

Bumped into Father Gascoigne. Took away about 2/3rds of his health and even parried him twice and thought "This is easy"

then he went into Big Bastard mode and beat the snot out of me.

thorbarry · 30-03-2015 3:59pm

Anyone have a quick explanation on insight, and how to check if I have any!!?

30-03-2015 4:01pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Bumped in Father Gascoigne. Took away about 2/3rds of his health and even parried him twice and thought "This is easy"
then he went into Big Bastard mode and beat the snot out of me.

I used insight to call somebody in to give me a hand.

He is beatable on your own though, you can either use the music box or the gun to stagger him.
Key to using the Music box is to make sure you press square and let you're character turn it for about 2 seconds, stay clear of the beast while you do this. Hide behind the gravestones so he can't leap at you.
If you don't have the music box I think Sephorith posted a video of it's location a couple of pages back.

30-03-2015 4:03pm

thorbarry wrote: »

Anyone have a quick explanation on insight, and how to check if I have any!!?

Number on top right of screen indicates the amount of insight you have and also in the status menu.
From my understanding the higher the insight the harder the game is.
It also allows you to call in coop partners at the expense of one insight.
You can replenish by facing bosses or using the item Madman's Knowledge

Digital Solitude · 30-03-2015 4:11pm

thorbarry wrote: »

Anyone have a quick explanation on insight, and how to check if I have any!!?

Its the number next to the eye on the top right.of the screen. As Mick said, you use when you ring the Beckoning Bell. You gain in back by beating bosses or the items. Co-Op boss fights also give insight.

When you reach 10 insight, you can unlock a second vendor in The Hunters Dream, and buy items using insight. When your insight reaches 15, enemies gain new attacks and stuff. Below 14, they lose the attacks again

Gummy Panda · 30-03-2015 4:14pm

Dos killing the bsb unlock any area?

I just got the chalice and insight from killing it. Thought it might unlock a passage or something

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 30-03-2015 4:15pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Its the number next to the eye on the top right.of the screen. As Mick said, you use when you ring the Beckoning Bell. You gain in back by beating bosses or the items. Co-Op boss fights also give insight.

When you reach 10 insight, you can unlock a second vendor in The Hunters Dream, and buy items using insight. When your insight reaches 15, enemies gain new attacks and stuff. Below 14, they lose the attacks again

So the power of the enemies go up and down in relation to your insight?

Interdasting...

Digital Solitude · 30-03-2015 4:16pm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Dos killing the bsb unlock any area?

I just got the chalice and insight from killing it. Thought it might unlock a passage or something

You can a) check out your first chalice dungeon or b) head back to the cathedral ward. Check out the door on the right

YouSavedMyLife · 30-03-2015 4:16pm

Was wondering what that music box was for. No idea where i got it from but was pretty sure it was after i beat him. About 3/4 through the game and wondering when it was going to be use :pac:

In regards to the Bag Lads. Them being able to feint attacks is what makes them so tough, plus the hit like a truck. And when they go berserk mode you could be in trouble. I always try to bring them low before the berserk mode and aim to set up the backstab when they are channeling the super saiyan ****. Hunters are still the hardest though imo. Hunters without guns on the other hand are manageable. Currently i have access to fight one in a side quest and his gun one shots me. I have about 30-35 Health stat and he one shots me with the gun. :eek:

Gummy Panda · 30-03-2015 4:21pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

You can a) check out your first chalice dungeon or b) head back to the cathedral ward. Check out the door on the right

Thank you. Another question, is the chalices consumed on use or infinite use?

YouSavedMyLife · 30-03-2015 4:22pm

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

So the power of the enemies go up and down in relation to your insight?

Interdasting...

Indeed. It also has another use with secrets. For example with 20-30 insight you can hear the Vicar talking when you fight her, below that level of insight you just hear the beast roars. Apparently there are a load more secrets like this where insight plays a part but this is the only one i know of atm.

thorbarry · 30-03-2015 4:29pm

So i should not let my insight go about 15 then, its hard enough already

Zero-Cool · 30-03-2015 4:35pm

The Insight system sounds class, I'm hoping insight carries over to NG+1, get it up as high as I can and uncover a few secrets.

For anyone in Old Yarnham, I found a good way of clearing the church floor with tons of enemies. I got up to the rafters after killing the gattling hunter and saw a hanging....thing. I thought it would hold an object so I cut it with my sword. It fell and exploded in fire killing everyone. Very unexpected

Grayditch · 30-03-2015 4:38pm

Had to start a new carachter. I'll know not to be ringing bells if I've ever suspended the game. Gonna get back up to 10 insight and buy the damn resonance bell this time.

tok9 · 30-03-2015 4:50pm

Grayditch wrote: »

Had to start a new carachter. I'll know not to be ringing bells if I've ever suspended the game. Gonna get back up to 10 insight and buy the damn resonance bell this time.

I feel partly responsible for this. My boasting did not help

Lemlin · 30-03-2015 4:54pm

I'm caving in. Have just put my copy of FIFA I got last week up on the swap thread in a hope someone will be sick of this already and want to swap.

sweetie · 30-03-2015 5:08pm

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm caving in. Have just put my copy of FIFA I got last week up on the swap thread in a hope someone will be sick of this already and want to swap.

Only 2 copies so far in CEX countrywide!

Taltos · 30-03-2015 5:25pm

I'm loving it.
Insight still low, not beaten any boss yet.
Stupidly or not chose a build that I thought was close to my mage DS2 (I know I know) - bit of a struggle at first but slowly levelling up. Will be strong enough soon to face the bosses...

Not enough hours in the day.

Retr0gamer · 30-03-2015 5:36pm

Can't wait tp see these bad lad's, games gotten a lot easier now although I'm only after the area with the pimp cane wielding dandies.

Grayditch · 30-03-2015 5:47pm

tok9 wrote: »

I feel partly responsible for this. My boasting did not help

Haha no worries. I am getting mashed by Gascoigne this time around, though, but I have 8 insight. If I call on help I'll lose one, but win and gain 3 leaving me at a perfect 10. Might give that a go or just kill Gazza on my own. I'm not that far off killing him each time. I've a bigger vitality bat this time.

Bloodborne (From Software / Sony)

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