Looking to change my choice of alcohol drink

Tarzana · 21-07-2014 7:25pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Thats not a sport. Not one that keeps you fit anyway. Its light exercise at best.

It's far better exercise than anyone gives it credit for. You walk a very long distance around the course.

And do you imagine that everyone who plays a round of golf heads off to the clubhouse after? Really not so.

Tarzana · 21-07-2014 7:28pm

conzy wrote: »

I've gone cold turkey the last few months. For me anyway most nights outs would be a typical "irish" slobbery night out. It took a whole day and sometimes two to shake the hangover and training and diet adherence went to the dogs.

I don't plan on staying off the drink long term. I'll drink on holidays in a few weeks for example and at a stag in November but in general I've decided I care way more about my training.

Sounds very dry I know but this is from a typical lad that was stimulating the economy ~€500 / month :pac:

Well, get this, I actually can't AFFORD drinking and nights out at the moment. :pac: Your mention of €500 per month illustrates why. At the moment for me it's either go drinking OR have money to save every month. The latter, please!

But back on topic...

Muahahaha · 21-07-2014 9:45pm

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

I was gonna take up golf - probably not the most physically demanding of sports but it'll keep me off the sauce and i'll do quite a bit of walking?

Don't think I could have 1 pint a night, I'd be only teasing myself. I'd rather do without completely

Golf isn't great exercise tbh as you're constantly stopping and starting walking so your heart rate never really gets a decent workout. Also it is very difficult to resist a pint after a four hour round of golf, you'll convince yourself you've earned it and the second one and so on.

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Sport, especially as you get older, is a good way of cutting back on booze.

If you are competitive, you want to do well at the sport. And you cant train with a hangover (even 2 or 3 pints) once you are in your 30s.

This is very true. I've often curbed my Friday drinking at home because I want to be able to have a decent cycle on a Saturday. Doing sport is a bit of a double whammy for weight loss- you burn calories when exercising but then when you're not your mind is making sensible choices on what to eat and drink because you don't want to be wasting your time exercising and then go home and undo all the work with a bad diet.

Exercise and healthy eating go hand in hand. But for me doing both together is actually easier than doing one alone.

Tombo2001 · 22-07-2014 10:04am

Tarzana wrote: »

It's far better exercise than anyone gives it credit for. You walk a very long distance around the course.

And do you imagine that everyone who plays a round of golf heads off to the clubhouse after? Really not so.

I would disagree.

I think there are a lot of middle aged people who believe, mistakenly, that they are getting adequate exercise because they walk around golf course once a week.

Its an 8k walk that takes place over 4 hours. Thats two kilometres per hour.

Blacktie. · 22-07-2014 10:19am

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I would disagree.

I think there are a lot of middle aged people who believe, mistakenly, that they are getting adequate exercise because they walk around golf course once a week.

Its an 8k walk that takes place over 4 hours. Thats two kilometres per hour.

That's 8km more than sitting on the coach catching up on your soaps. Or approximately 2 soaps per hour.

Tarzana · 23-07-2014 5:46am

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I would disagree.

I think there are a lot of middle aged people who believe, mistakenly, that they are getting adequate exercise because they walk around golf course once a week.

Its an 8k walk that takes place over 4 hours. Thats two kilometres per hour.

A round of golf burns a surprising amount of calories:

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.php

My boyfriend is always wrecked after and he's far from unfit. And as said, far better than sitting in instead.

And as for the clubhouse thing, yeah, some indulge. But the men in my life who play golf play their round and then go home, as do many others. It's such a cliche that they all head to the club house to skull pints after.

Bruno26 · 23-07-2014 8:46am

Golf is a brilliant form of exercise. It's clearly not as useful as a strenuous workout involving weights and sprints. However it's far better than doing nothing. Depending on the terrain of the course some are better workouts than others. Try walking a very hilly course and carry the bag around- you will feel it the next day.

Nowadays very few people go for pints after golf. It's play the round and go home. It also keeps you off the beer the night before.

Of course this form of exercise isn't much use if you drink a lot and eat crap.

Dial Hard · 23-07-2014 12:24pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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This is precisely the attitude to alcohol that I can't see the point in - the sole purpose of drinking shouldn't be to get absolutely slaughtered every time.

Blacktie. · 23-07-2014 12:42pm

Dial Hard wrote: »

This is precisely the attitude to alcohol that I can't see the point in - the sole purpose of drinking shouldn't be to get absolutely slaughtered every time.

Different strokes for different folks.

The Wild Bunch · 23-07-2014 2:21pm

Dial Hard wrote: »

This is precisely the attitude to alcohol that I can't see the point in - the sole purpose of drinking shouldn't be to get absolutely slaughtered every time.

Some people like the taste, and others like the feeling of being slaughtered.

Me personally, I don't understand this obsession with craft beers and taste/flavour.

6 Stonehouse @ 6% volume is just as appealing to me as, say, 6 pints of expensive specially brewed hipster sh*te

In saying that, it's horses for courses, innit?

drumswan · 23-07-2014 2:44pm

Why drink beer or cider if its just a high you are looking for? These drinks are traditionally drinks of moderation with low alcohol by volume. Its strong spirits you want so.

Blacktie. · 23-07-2014 3:56pm

drumswan wrote: »

Why drink beer or cider if its just a high you are looking for? These drinks are traditionally drinks of moderation with low alcohol by volume. Its strong spirits you want so.

Cause it's not a race to get slaughtered drunk.

Alf Veedersane · 23-07-2014 4:05pm

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Me personally, I don't understand this obsession with craft beers and taste/flavour.

You don't get why people prioritise taste/flavour?

The Wild Bunch · 23-07-2014 4:14pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You don't get why people prioritise taste/flavour?

Not particularly, no?

It's all down to preference. Some people say Heineken or Coors is generic or bland - maybe it is, but I tend not to notice. Beer is beer to me!

rubadub · 23-07-2014 4:16pm

drumswan wrote: »

Why drink beer or cider if its just a high you are looking for? These drinks are traditionally drinks of moderation with low alcohol by volume. Its strong spirits you want so.

Spirits, per unit alcohol, are very expensive to drink in pub if you are including mixers.

Not sure what pubs you go to but I would certainly not called beer or cider drinks of moderation! our own governement tells us 3 pints in a row is binge drinking. I expect a lot of binge drinking goes on in the dail bar.

Spirits are not really a "session drink"

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You don't get why people prioritise taste/flavour?

Many don't, hence the popularity of low flavour beers like budweiser, and the practise of serving them at zero or sub zero temperatures to mask the taste.

Many view alcohol primarily as a recreational drug. Some cannabis smokers would consider themselves connoisseurs who appreciate taste, smell, appearance etc -I expect many people would laugh at the thought of that.

Alf Veedersane · 23-07-2014 4:26pm

rubadub wrote: »

Many view alcohol primarily as a recreational drug. Some cannabis smokers would consider themselves connoisseurs who appreciate taste, smell, appearance etc -I expect many people would laugh at the thought of that.

I know that there are nights where I will probably end up getting drunk because it's likely to involve a lot of drink being xonsumed.

But I don't get the drinking to get drunk. I'm not saying it's wrong to...I just don't get it.

But I've just done a straw poll and both respondants do get it.

I've always wanted to be a minority...just to see what prejudice feels like.

It feels oppressive.

drumswan · 23-07-2014 4:27pm

rubadub wrote: »

Not sure what pubs you go to but I would certainly not called beer or cider drinks of moderation! our own governement tells us 3 pints in a row is binge drinking. I expect a lot of binge drinking goes on in the dail bar.

Never mind the propaganda, a drink with 4-6% ABV is very much a drink of moderation when compared with drinks with ten times that amount. Indeed beer was promoted and legislated for as a moderate choice compared to rum when public houses became popular centuries ago.

If the OP is looking to get drunk, a few measures of spirits are the way forward instead of guzzling litres and litres of beer.

rubadub · 23-07-2014 4:41pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

But I don't get the drinking to get drunk. I'm not saying it's wrong to...I just don't get it.

Lots of people just want to experience an altered state of conciousness. Many do not get it, as they might have a low appetite for experiencing altered states of conciousness, nothing wrong with that. Just like people who are not particularly fond of eating cannot understand how people get obese, or people who guy expensive food. Or people who have a low sex drive might not understand people having recreational sex for fun, when they might view it as being for procreation.

I knew a guy who was shocked when I was saying I enjoyed a beer with a curry, he couldn't get his head around it. He solely drank to get drunk, he drank bud but admitted he didn't like it, it was the most tolerable and cheapest option to him in pubs.

drumswan wrote: »

If the OP is looking to get drunk, a few measures of spirits are the way forward instead of guzzling litres and litres of beer.

I am not sure if you are being facetious or are genuinely ingorant about drinking culture in this country. If people do not particularly like the taste of beer I doubt they will like the sensation of straight spirits. One big reason beer is popular is that it takes time to drink and "lasts", this is why it is seen as a session drink. The OP said he goes out and has 7 pints, I expect this is over the course of several hours.

ghogie91 · 23-07-2014 4:53pm

You can get rid of the beer gut by training harder and keeping up your social pinting

Id switch to coors light anyways, you can also get cans of coors light

If you are drinking bulmers, go for the bulmers light

As for bread, I have seen a guy lose 2 stone by just giving up bread and contnuing his normal exercising.

I wouldnt be too worried about the beer side of things if you just stepped up the training or if you arent doing a bit it wouldnt be too much harm tipping to the gym and starting a small routine.

I have friends who drink like crazy and train like craz, these guys are lean and powerful in cycling, soccer and GAA. I certinely look at it as not to if you train hard then you deserve a few pints. Wouldnt give up the social aspect as that is worse in my personal opinion, everyone needs to enjoy themselves aswell

The Wild Bunch · 23-07-2014 4:56pm

ghogie91 wrote: »

You can get rid of the beer gut by training harder and keeping up your social pinting

Id switch to coors light anyways, you can also get cans of coors light

If you are drinking bulmers, go for the bulmers light

As for bread, I have seen a guy lose 2 stone by just giving up bread and contnuing his normal exercising.

I wouldnt be too worried about the beer side of things if you just stepped up the training or if you arent doing a bit it wouldnt be too much harm tipping to the gym and starting a small routine.

I have friends who drink like crazy and train like craz, these guys are lean and powerful in cycling, soccer and GAA. I certinely look at it as not to if you train hard then you deserve a few pints. Wouldnt give up the social aspect as that is worse in my personal opinion, everyone needs to enjoy themselves aswell

Thanks for that

Backstreet Moyes · 24-07-2014 7:21pm

I think the big thing is drink and bad food go hand in hand.

Personally i eat healthy during the week. Chicken, Steak, porridge, Veg, Beans and fish and tuna.

Then on a Friday could meet a friend for 6 or 7 pints. This leads to crisps and nuts just for the sake of it. Then eat something unhealthy when i go home. The Saturday leads to laziness cook a fry with bread, a big dinner before going out to line the stomach. Then 7 or 8 drinks and get a snackbox or pizza. Sunday lazy something handy like a fry, picking away at chocolate and crisps feeling sorry for yourself.

My aim anyway is too train hard Monday-Saturday and go out for a good few on the Sunday. Hopefully it makes a difference.

Backstreet Moyes · 24-07-2014 7:24pm

ghogie91 wrote: »

You can get rid of the beer gut by training harder and keeping up your social pinting

Id switch to coors light anyways, you can also get cans of coors light

If you are drinking bulmers, go for the bulmers light

As for bread, I have seen a guy lose 2 stone by just giving up bread and contnuing his normal exercising.

I wouldnt be too worried about the beer side of things if you just stepped up the training or if you arent doing a bit it wouldnt be too much harm tipping to the gym and starting a small routine.

I have friends who drink like crazy and train like craz, these guys are lean and powerful in cycling, soccer and GAA. I certinely look at it as not to if you train hard then you deserve a few pints. Wouldnt give up the social aspect as that is worse in my personal opinion, everyone needs to enjoy themselves aswell

My friend cut out break for a month and she lost a stone without exercise despite being quite skinny. I am going to try give it a try.

Also i have a few friends who drink Friday through to Monday and train hard 6-7 days and are in great shape. Maybe some people just are different.

The Wild Bunch · 24-07-2014 7:39pm

Right, I've eliminated the bread and chocolate COMPLETELY. Let's see how we go!

rubadub · 25-07-2014 4:36pm

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Right, I've eliminated the bread and chocolate COMPLETELY. Let's see how we go!

I found bread to be a good one to cut out. For chocolate I would have some high cocoa quality chocolate on standby for a fix, the strong ones are so bitter it cannot really be wolfed down.

Nuts102 wrote: »

I think the big thing is drink and bad food go hand in hand.

+1, most "beer bellies" should be called "chipper bellies" or "kebab bellies" with people gorging after drinking.

I used to make sure I had easy to prepare low calorie stuff ready for when I got home, or even bring stuff out with me.

I have always found alcohol to have little effect on my weight. I was still drinking 30+ pints a week and losing weight or at least not gaining any.

The Wild Bunch · 25-07-2014 6:24pm

Is pasta just as bad as bread?

Looking to change my choice of alcohol drink

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