When will global population start to be controlled ??

the_syco · 03-07-2012 4:32pm

Are we due a world war to kill off a few million people?

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 4:36pm

wes wrote: »

The end result is that the figure presented are untrue, and as such European becoming a minority is not happening. Sorry, but such a claim is simple fiction, and its not even new fiction. Its been said the world over for centuries.

It is happening. Anyone who says otherwise is deluded. Major parts of European cities are already predominantly non European. Indeed, its been predicted that the Irish will become a minority in our own nation by 2050. As the census of 2010 showed us, we are well on our way to meet that target.

gobnaitolunacy · 03-07-2012 4:37pm

Reckon some new disease will do the job, increased air travel and the like would spread it pretty rapid while boffins scratch their heads for a cure. It's happened before and not so long ago...look up the 1918 Influenza epidemic.

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 4:38pm

IrishAm wrote: »

It is happening. Anyone who says otherwise is deluded. Major parts of European cities are already predominantly non European. Indeed, its been predicted that the Irish will become a minority in our own nation by 2050. As the census of 2010 showed us, we are well on our way to meet that target.

And who cares? Humans are humans. The saintly Europeans did it to Chile and Argentina, not many natives left there now. I couldn't care less what religion or skin colour people have in Ireland or Europe in 100 years. Society has always been changing.

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 4:40pm

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

And who cares? Humans are humans. The saintly Europeans did it to Chile and Argentina, not many natives left there now. I couldn't care less what religion or skin colour people have in Ireland or Europe in 100 years. Society has always been changing.

Also USA, Canada and Australia.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 4:41pm

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

And who cares?
Humans are humans. The saintly Europeans did it to Chile and Argentina, not many natives left there now. I couldn't care less what religion or skin colour people have in Ireland or Europe in 100 years. Society has always been changing.

Me.

Ireland is the homeland of the Irish people. It should always remain predominantly Irish. Ditto for other European nations.

bizmark · 03-07-2012 4:41pm

Stiffler2 wrote: »

When do you think global population control will hit every continent, not just China :

USA
Europe
everywhere basically

We take the piss out of China for doing this but realistically we can't support a massive population so when will this start to hit us ?

We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

It's only a matter of time before it will have to come in, probably not in our lifetime

Thoughts anyone ??

Ya its this crap that had the "undesirables" steralised not more than 70 years ago so nice to see such ideas still havent buggered off

More humans = more chance of technological progress = more chance of survival for everyone its a very simple and easy to track process not the other way around

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 4:42pm

af_thefragile wrote: »

Also USA, Canada and Australia.

Three of the most prosperous nations on the planet. All built by Europeans.

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 4:42pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Me.

Ireland is the homeland of the Irish people. It should always remain predominantly Irish. Ditto for other European nations.

Your sentiments aren't gonna change the world... Or the fact that over time nations change.

IrishAm wrote: »

Three of the most prosperous nations on the planet. All built by Europeans.

Says more about the abundant natural resources in these countries than their population.
USA and Australia have lots of other problems too.

wes · 03-07-2012 4:42pm

IrishAm wrote: »

It is happening.

No its not. There is no evidence of this happening. The numbers claimed, have already been shown to be wrong.

IrishAm wrote: »

Anyone who says otherwise is deluded.

The only people who are deluded, are those who still cling to claims that have been shown to be factually correct. You are just insisting you are correct, in the face of already been shown to be simple factually incorrect. The numbers simply don't back up your claim.

IrishAm wrote: »

Major parts of European cities are already predominantly non European.

Sorry, but this sentence can mean any number of things. Care to debunk the link I posted? Its very clearly simple proved you assertion to be simple factually incorrect. So care to debunk the numbers, I provided from the link earlier......

IrishAm wrote: »

Indeed, its been predicted that the Irish will become a minority in our own nation by 2050. As the census of 2010 showed us, we are well on our way to meet that target.

Utter nonsense. You are just making crap up, and insisting your right, and ignoring facts that have already been provided, as they don't suit your views......

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 4:43pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Me.

Ireland is the homeland of the Irish people. It should always remain predominantly Irish. Ditto for other European nations.

Well your proud f*cking Irish people should have left Australia alone then shouldn't they?

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 4:46pm

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Well your proud f*cking Irish people should have left Australia alone then shouldn't they?

Let that hatred out, pal.

Australia is not my concern. They can let in or kick out who they like.

Mance Rayder · 03-07-2012 4:46pm

Humans, despite all our planning and best intents, are not exempt from evolution.

The fittest genes will be past on. What colour that will make us in the future? Does it matter?

I am much more concerned with the rise of certain negative cultures then I am with the diversity of race in Europe.

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 4:48pm

Mance Rayder wrote: »

I am much more concerned with the rise of certain negative cultures then I am with the diversity of race in Europe.

Its all subjective. The future will always sort itself out like it has over the past 2 million or so years.

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 4:48pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Let that hatred out, pal.

Australia is not my concern. They can let in or kick out who they like.

I think 25% of the (white) population is of Irish descent, or more. Should we apologise to the aboriginals of Canada, USA, and Australia for settling in these countries?

Mance Rayder · 03-07-2012 4:51pm

af_thefragile wrote: »

Its all subjective. The future will always sort itself out like it has over the past 2 million or so years.

Exactly, evolution will run it's course, there is little we can do about it other than to try our best to make the most of what we have, and to point ourselves in what we perceive to be the best direction, whilst helping those who need it as we can along the way.

I am all for mixing and integration. If it wasn't for the foreign genes here the whole population would look like that guy in father ted with the I shot JR tee-shirt.

As Science tells us, Diversification is the KEY to survival and prosperity.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 4:54pm

wes wrote: »

Utter nonsense. You are just making crap up, and insisting your right, and ignoring facts that have already been provided, as they don't suit your views......

Yes, I made up the 2010 census that showed us that 17% of the Irish population are foreign. It was me.:rolleyes:

I also made up this study.

Ireland's native population could be in a minority by the middle of this century, the president of Dublin City University (DCU) will claim today. Unpublished UK-based research has indicated that by 2050, Ireland's population will consist of a multicultural and multiethnic mix in which the indigenous Irish will form a minority.

Prof. von Prondzynski 2005. President of DCU.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 4:56pm

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Should we apologise to the aboriginals of Canada, USA, and Australia for settling in these countries?

You can if you want. Knock yourself out.

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 4:56pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Yes, I made up the 2010 census that showed us that 17% of the Irish population are foreign. It was me.:rolleyes:

I also made up this study.

Prof. von Prondzynski 2005. President of DCU.

How long do you expect Ireland to stay pure and Irish for? Also - do you object to Irish people living abroad?

Mance Rayder · 03-07-2012 4:57pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Yes, I made up the 2010 census that showed us that 17% of the Irish population are foreign. It was me.:rolleyes:

I also made up this study.

Prof. von Prondzynski 2005. President of DCU.

I married a non national and so did my brother. We are going to make lovely mixed baby's and they will be a credit to whereever they choose to make their home.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 4:59pm

Mance Rayder wrote: »

As Science tells us, Diversification is the KEY to survival and prosperity.

It sure is. Anyway, us indigenous Europeans are the most diverse people on the planet. Blue, brown, green and grey eyes. Brown, red, blonde and black hair. Various colours of beige. Simply beautiful.

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 5:00pm

IrishAm wrote: »

It sure is. Anyway, us indigenous Europeans are the most diverse people on the planet. Blue, brown, green and grey eyes. Brown, red, blonde and black hair. Various colours of beige. Simply beautiful.

Do you object to Irish people living outside of Europe?

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 5:00pm

IrishAm wrote: »

It sure is. Anyway, us indigenous Europeans are the most diverse people on the planet. Blue, brown, green and grey eyes. Brown, red, blonde and black hair. Various colours of beige. Simply beautiful.

So what exactly is "pure" European or "pure" Irish then?
Do you have a certain definition of the physical characteristics of these people?

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:01pm

Mance Rayder wrote: »

I married a non national and so did my brother. We are going to make lovely mixed baby's and they will be a credit to whereever they choose to make their home.

Congratulations.

I am sure your partner has a nationality. Unless she was born in mid air over disputed airspace.

Sea Filly · 03-07-2012 5:01pm

summerskin wrote: »

You could fit the population of the world into Wales. Plenty of room left, even for alarmists.

It's not just about room, though, is it? It's about resources or lack thereof.

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 5:02pm

Sea Filly wrote: »

It's not just about room, though, is it? It's about resources or lack thereof.

There's no lack of resources. Just plenty of wasted resources.

wes · 03-07-2012 5:03pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Yes, I made up the 2010 census that showed us that 17% of the Irish population are foreign. It was me.:rolleyes:

So, you expect that number to increase even with all our economic problems. Sorry, but that is ridiculous.....

**EDIT**
Also, I question your 17% claim as well:

From Ireland Demographics Profile 2012:

Ethnic groups

Irish 87.4%, other white 7.5%, Asian 1.3%, black 1.1%, mixed 1.1%, unspecified 1.6% (2006 census)

So, 17% seems to be untrue.....

IrishAm wrote: »

I also made up this study.

Prof. von Prondzynski 2005. President of DCU.

I typed that quote in Google and none of the search results were for a news article, and infact it linked to politics.ie, thephora.net and stormfront.... All 3 of them are forums and not news site. Care to provide a link to the article you are apparently quoting? As it stands I don't believe what your posting is true.....

Mance Rayder · 03-07-2012 5:04pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Congratulations.

I am sure your partner has a nationality. Unless she was born in mid air over disputed airspace.

You know very well that the word non national refers to non Irish national.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:04pm

af_thefragile wrote: »

So what exactly is "pure" European or "pure" Irish then?
Do you have a certain definition of the physical characteristics of these people?

A pure European is someone wholly of European descent.

No such thing as a pure Irish person. I would use the term indigenous Irish person. In 2001 a study showed us that some 90% of Irish people were direct descendants of the first original inhabitants of this island, so I would go with that.

Hope this helps.

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 5:04pm

IrishAm wrote: »

A pure European is someone wholly of European descent.

No such thing as a pure Irish person. I would use the term indigenous Irish person. In 2001 a study showed us that some 90% of Irish people were direct descendants of the first original inhabitants of this island, so I would go with that.

Hope this helps.

So you say everyone should only live in the place they were born and not move around the world?

Nodin · 03-07-2012 5:06pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Couldn't give a bollix who takes it over, the end result will be the same. Indigenous Europeans becoming a minority in their own continent.

Not this bollocks again....here
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/07/10/why-fears-of-a-muslim-takeover-are-all-wrong.html

IrishAm wrote: »

Couldn't give a bollix who takes it over, the end result will be the same. Indigenous Europeans becoming a minority in their own continent..

Nope.

IrishAm wrote: »

Three of the most prosperous nations on the planet. All built by Europeans. ..

Your mask is slipping there.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:09pm

af_thefragile wrote: »

So you say everyone should only live in the place they were born and not move around the world?

Where did you get that from my previous answers to your inane questions?

Nodin · 03-07-2012 5:11pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Where did you get that from my previous answers to your inane questions?

I think it was the insane answers that you seem to have provided. You seem all too proud of countries where Europeans have settled, yet resent anyone of non-European descent settling outside their own areas of origin.

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 5:11pm

IrishAm - do you think Irish people should be allowed live outside of Europe? White Europeans imposed their capitalist lifestyles on the indigenous people of North America and Australia, was that fair? Yet you complain about Islam in Europe.

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 5:11pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Where did you get that from my previous answers to your inane questions?

Well if people were free to move around the world and live where they desired, then you would have different ethnicities moving into different regions and over time some of the indigenous ethnicities will become a minority.

At least one can take comfort in the fact that in Europe its not happening via a genocide like it did in the Americas and Australia.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:12pm

17% of the population told the Census they were born abroad, a 25% increase on 2006.

Census 2010. Irish Times.

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 5:14pm

IrishAm wrote: »

17% of the population told the Census they were born abroad, a 25% increase on 2006.

Census 2010. Irish Times.

Where do you live? Where in Ireland are almost 1 in 5 people non Irish? You're either a wind up or deluded.

wes · 03-07-2012 5:14pm

IrishAm wrote: »

17% of the population told the Census they were born abroad, a 25% increase on 2006.

Census 2010. Irish Times.

Ok, why no link to the the Irsh times.........? Also, where were the people who represented the increase from?

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:16pm

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Where do you live? Where in Ireland are almost 1 in 5 people non Irish? You're either a wind up or deluded.

Its. The. Resulting. Figures. Of. The. 2010. Census.

They are official figures, produced by a government body. Do you know what a Cenus is?

Jaysus.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:17pm

wes wrote: »

Ok, why no link to the the Irsh times.........? Also, where were the people who represented the increase from?

Go the CSO website and find the official 17% figure if you think I am lying.

BraziliaNZ · 03-07-2012 5:18pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Its. The. Resulting. Figures. Of. The. 2010. Census.

They are official figures, produced by a government body. Do you know what a Cenus is?

Jaysus.

Have a look at this

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_OFFPUB/KS-SF-11-034/EN/KS-SF-11-034-EN.PDF

af_thefragile · 03-07-2012 5:18pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Its. The. Resulting. Figures. Of. The. 2010. Census.

They are official figures, produced by a government body. Do you know what a Cenus is?

Jaysus.

One can safely assume Dublin is the most ethnically diverse part of Ireland and I can safely say that 9/10 people I see on the streets of Dublin are Irish/European descent.

DoesNotCompute · 03-07-2012 5:20pm

Stiffler2 wrote: »

When do you think global population control will hit every continent, not just China :

USA
Europe
everywhere basically

We take the piss out of China for doing this but realistically we can't support a massive population so when will this start to hit us ?

We're running out of food / resources / fuel / land etc...

It's only a matter of time before it will have to come in, probably not in our lifetime

Thoughts anyone ??

I hear the Illumanti are going to wipe out 95% of the world's population to keep us enslaved, any day now... :pac:

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:20pm

Nodin wrote: »

where Europeans have settled

Not settled, more like built.

Mance Rayder · 03-07-2012 5:20pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Where did you get that from my previous answers to your inane questions?

It sounds like you have no Problem with Europeans , and your issue is with race, as in Black, Semitic, Asian etc.

Now while I personally don't like a lot of things about the cultures of some of these races of certain nationality, I must observe that it is not a question of colour.

I would dislike/mistrust a black Muslim just as much as I would dislike/mistrust a white Muslim. My problem in this case would be with those indoctrinated into what I view as an extreme cultural/religious mindset.

So I am not racist, but I do discriminate against certain cultural groups colour/race notwithstanding. I do however treat everyone on their own merit, despite any misgivings I may have about their cultural group.

In that I can see an argument for a more defined Europe, but unfortunately , as has been proven before, the whole Idea of cultural purity invariably leads to racial intolerance and in the end to a humanitarian disaster with a high human cost.

Nodin · 03-07-2012 5:20pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Go the CSO website and find the official 17% figure if you think I am lying.

Let's say for the sake of argument you're bang on.

Whats to stop them growing up Irish?

Nothingbetter2d · 03-07-2012 5:21pm

the best way to prevent more than 2 kids families is to make the father have a vasectomy after the second child is born.

if the wife gets knocked up with a third then u will know there is a good chance that she is a cheating tart. :P

Zab · 03-07-2012 5:21pm

The OP's premise is incorrect. The population is not spiralling out of control. We're on target for the world to max out at about 9 or 10 million.

More specifically on whether religious families will start out outnumbering the rest of us (covers a lot of the previous video too):

wes · 03-07-2012 5:23pm

IrishAm wrote: »

Go the CSO website and find the official 17% figure if you think I am lying.

Well, the fact that you refuse to post a link, kind of makes me doubt you. A lot of your problem would be solved by providing one. Look, I have better things to do than fact check what people post on a forum, so I normally ask for a link for such claims, and do my best to provide links myself, but as a general rule if someone refuse to provide a link, I tend not to believe them. Now maybe you are right, but I find it odd that you don't provide links for your quotes.

IrishAm · 03-07-2012 5:25pm

af_thefragile wrote: »

One can safely assume Dublin is the most ethnically diverse part of Ireland and I can safely say that 9/10 people I see on the streets of Dublin are Irish/European descent.

Next Census is due in 2014. Instead of spending millions conducting it, we should have you roam the streets of Dublin for a few hours and then have you fill in your guestimations.

Evidently, your assumptions are much better than any officially announced government figures.

When will global population start to be controlled ??

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