QCA & Repating!

YesBoi wrote: »

How come people i know who got d's and got below the qca of 2 didn have to repeat them?? No one actually knows what happens urrrgh!! im sure if i get a qca of 2.4 this semester i pass the year 1.6+2.4/2!

Your spot on! As long as your cumulative QCA (Average of the two semesters) is above 2.0 your find. The D's will go down as compensatory fails.

Obviously any F's have to be repeated no matter what QCA you get.

YesBoi wrote: »

Thanks lads!!
But what i wanna know is what happens if i dont reach the qca of 2?
taken all options into consideration.

Your allowed a total of 4 repeats, so you've got two D's so far, you can only afford two more D's / F's this semester.

Each repeat exam costs €171 / €172 so if you have to repeat four it will cost four times that.

If you fail a repeat / repeats you can do link-in modules rather than repeating the whole year. Think it cost €200 (might be very wrong with that figure) to do a link-in module.

Not sure how many link-in modules you are allowed to do. Probably two per semester also.

Edit: Here is a link to the UL progression policy. It lists out your options should you fail to make the minimum QCA requirement.

Neon-Circles wrote: »

They will have to- well, the way I interpret it anyway

i.e- with a QCA of below 2.00 you will need to repeat compensating fails.

Taken from student handbook

"
Compensating Fail
If your QCA is greater or equal to 2.0 and includes D1 and/or D2 grades (compensating fail grades),
you do not have to repeat the modules for which you got the D1 or D2 grades, i.e. you can proceed to
the next stage of your programme. The reason for this is that to have achieved a QCA score of 2.0 or
greater with D1 and/or D2 grades included, you must have done well enough in other modules to
compensate for the D1/D2 grades. "

I think where you are misinterpreting is that student handbook quote is referring to a student's cumulative QCA (which is basically the average QCA across the two semesters) not one semester's QCA.

If you had to repeat because of a low QCA in semester 1, UL would be sending out letters in January telling students they have repeats to do in August which of course they don't.

The only scenario where students get module failure letters in January is if they are going on Co-Op in semester 2.

mulner92 wrote: »

I got a qca of 2.6 at christmas, would a qca of 1.4 be enough to pass the year? Obviously I want to do as best i can, but was just curious how it works out.

I'm pretty sure it's not possible to get a QCA of 1.4 without getting an F in something. D's are 1.6, so if you did get 1.4 that would mean you got an F in something so you would have to do the repeat exam for that F.

Remember repeat exams are capped at C3, so passing the repeat exam has to bring your QCA at or above 2.0 otherwise you'd have to repeat a module you got a D in also.

mid wrote: »

I think a D1 is 1.6, a D2 is 1.2

http://goo.gl/1aun6

Well spotted, unfortunately for me I was too lazy to do that simple search. :P

The general idea behind what I was saying remains the same though...

So the simple answer is yes, you can proceed with a QCA of 1.4 in semester 2 having received a QCA of 2.6 in semester 1.

Mossin wrote: »

No offense to those who have replied, as you have answered the OP's question, but you should have directed them to the questions for the education officer thread, where this question has been asked to death...and tbh OP, a simple search would have helped without the need for endless replies to this topic.

I understand where your coming from Mossin, I never hesitate to refer people to the Education Officer thread, but in this instance its a straight forward question with a straight forward answer.

Of course one or two replies have not been accurate hence why I gave a link to the official progression policy page which just confirms the points I made.

In a perfect world people could just look for a similar question in the Education Officer thread or a simple google search but we all know thats not how people operate and repetitive questions, rightly or wrongly, are part & parcel of the UL thread.

We all have the best of intentions anyway so I have no problem with this thread. :pac:

Mini Mini wrote: »

Hi
I was wondering if you get over 4 Ds in the 2 semesters in 1st year but still have a QCA over 2.0, would you be able to proceed on to the next year?

Once your QCA is above 2.0 you can progress. You will be given the option to clear the D's (but the max you can get in a repeat is a C3).

Jester252 wrote: »

An option not many will take seen as the grades are wiped

They don't count towards your final QCA and award but they're still on your transcript.

Mini Mini wrote: »

Hi
I was wondering if you get over 4 Ds in the 2 semesters in 1st year but still have a QCA over 2.0, would you be able to proceed on to the next year?

I think there is some rule that you can only sit a max of 3 repeats in one year. I'm not certain about that though

Agent_99 wrote: »

If you have a QCA of over 2.0 you can proceed with optional repeats I.e your D's.
max repeats for any semester is two up to a max of four for the year. For instance if you fail 3 in first semester of 3 rd year and go on to do your coop you will have to return to complete first semester in third year again you can't progress to 4th but you dont have to do coop again effectively sitting out from December til the following September

You can repeat 4 in any full year (ie not on co op). It doesn't matter if it's 4 from semester 1 and 0 from semester 2 or vice versa. It's only when you're on co op for one semester that you can only repeat the 2 from the semester you were in college.

Gumbi wrote: »

If you fail a repeat while on coop (like I am from June through February), does your Coop immediately end and must you repeat the year for that single module? Or will the module be carried on into next year first semester for a link-in?

Thanks!

I think that you can finish your Coop but you will have to do that module as a link in during Semester 1 so you won't be able to progress to the next year.
I'm not 100% certain on that though.

Why does it suck? The consequences of repeating are well known and outlined in the student handbook. If you don't want to fall foul of it, put in the work first time around!

Is it a core module or an elective?