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Charity Workers At The Checkout???

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I don't mind charity packers, as long as they are proper charity for people in need.

    Sometimes though I have had my bags packed by other organisations eg a judo club collecting to help fund a trip to a championship. For me that isn't an acceptable thing to have at the end of the aisle, when there are so many deserving charities out there.

    +1 In Dunnes Cornelscourt a few years ago there was a crowd of youngsters doing packing at the checkouts to raise money for Mrs. so and so's school of Irish dancing trip to Boston - 'charity' me arse! I don't mind sports clubs doing this act but only if they are local, too often the big stores effectively accept free labour by letting clubs in that are from miles away and that really p1sses me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    skelligs wrote: »
    Yes, its very annoying and one of the reasons I don;t shop in Dunnes because they seem to always have them. I don't mind every now and then.

    However, if any organisers are looking here - here's a far better idea.

    "We'll wheel the trolley out and place goods in your car and bring your trolley back to the trolley bay in exchange for the euro in your trolley."
    By only asking for a euro and providing a "concierge" service, you're bound to get extra donations and goodwill especially on rainy days and you don't annoy people by bad packing.

    I'd feel guilty if I didn't give them something extra for it and you would also need to do the whole "small talk" thing....my shoulders would be tightened up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    euser1984 wrote: »
    I'd feel guilty if I didn't give them something extra for it and you would also need to do the whole "small talk" thing....my shoulders would be tightened up.

    Agreed. I'd feel a prat walking alongside or behind somebody wheeling my trolley through the car park. Plus I have a token for the trollis and don't use coins in them anyway.
    If they want to sell flags at a door then fine. I'll give what I'll give regardless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    I just usually say I have my own charity that I support. Might drop them a euro reluctantly though....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭masonchat


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    To be honest I hate the door knocking charity collectors even more that the bag packers!!!
    I find it a total invasion of privacy .......... the way they put one foot into YOUR house and sprout out their well-rehearsed spiel before you've even had a chance to say hello!!
    And if at the end of their loooong spiel you decline to donate to their charity they get snotty, refuse to take no for an answer and look at you with disdain for wasting THEIR time?!?!
    My wife is so intimidated by them that she refuses to even open the door to them unless I'm home so I can tell them to **** off ............. I have no problem being rude with them as I find the fact that they have the b***s to knock at MY door uninvited looking aggressively for money incredibly rude!!

    The way I look at charity is this ........ if I believe in a good cause and I have faith in a charity collecting on behalf of this good cause then I will come to them (they're not hard to find), I don't need them to come looking for me!!

    The utility companys,phone sales people are the worst.
    I normally just open the door with NO thanks, and god help any of them that persist after that.

    I had one airtricity fella who when i opened the door said you are being charged too much for your electricity just get me your bill and i can sort it out for ya.

    I had to think for a second as i wasnt sure if he was trying to flog a switch or there had been some form of over charging, and the way he worded it i would imagine a lot (especially older people) may have just gotten him the bill.

    When i copped it i looked at him with amazement at the NECK on this A hole.

    Said no you're not getting my bill, he said so you dont want to save money, yeah thats right i dont, off he went puzzled , it was the way he almost walked into my house demanding my bill (right arrogant little chit) that really got my back up.

    Fast forward 2 months, knock at the door, opened it saw airtricity , instantly said NO thanks and was about to close the door, and this arrogant little chit stepped across (how could you not want what im selling look on his face same fella thinks his gods gift is impression i get).

    He stepped across to stop me closing the door before he got his chat up lines out , the penny dropped it was the same chit from the bill incident, well i lost it.

    YOU , i told YOU two months ago im not interested, im f---in sick of ye every few months at the door , if i see you at my door again ill thump ya down the drive, take this house off your list.

    Have to say i havent seen that shower since , i must get a sign for the door


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭ellavin


    I dont mind them atal.. as long as its a good cause.. but I'd still pack my own


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    The only charity thing I don't mind is the old ladies sitting in a corner somewhere (probably talking to one of their friends) collecting for something or other. Bag packers, chuggers,door to door and those guys that set up stalls outside doors of shops/post offices and get in your face about it can f right off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    masonchat wrote: »
    The utility companys,phone sales people are the worst.
    I normally just open the door with NO thanks, and god help any of them that persist after that.

    I had one airtricity fella who when i opened the door said you are being charged too much for your electricity just get me your bill and i can sort it out for ya.

    I had to think for a second as i wasnt sure if he was trying to flog a switch or there had been some form of over charging, and the way he worded it i would imagine a lot (especially older people) may have just gotten him the bill.

    When i copped it i looked at him with amazement at the NECK on this A hole.

    Said no you're not getting my bill, he said so you dont want to save money, yeah thats right i dont, off he went puzzled , it was the way he almost walked into my house demanding my bill (right arrogant little chit) that really got my back up.

    Fast forward 2 months, knock at the door, opened it saw airtricity , instantly said NO thanks and was about to close the door, and this arrogant little chit stepped across (how could you not want what im selling look on his face same fella thinks his gods gift is impression i get).

    He stepped across to stop me closing the door before he got his chat up lines out , the penny dropped it was the same chit from the bill incident, well i lost it.

    YOU , i told YOU two months ago im not interested, im f---in sick of ye every few months at the door , if i see you at my door again ill thump ya down the drive, take this house off your list.

    Have to say i havent seen that shower since , i must get a sign for the door

    That's it so. I'm never letting Airtricity pack my shopping bags again. They don't sound very charitable at all. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Have Airtricity not stopped door to door selling entirely (not that it has any relevance to this thread) or was that just their parent firm in the UK?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    SoulTrader wrote: »
    3 or 4 times lately, when paying with a credit card (in the US), I've been asked if I would add a dollar to my bill for some charity or other.

    I got something similar in Elvery's here. They ask do you want to buy one of those runner bags for 'insert charity name' for €2 or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Afaik with Dunnes stores all bag packers are brought in store for an intensive training day before they are unleashed on the public and all must be at least 14 or 16 years old although a 10 year old would probably pack better than some gormless teenager:D

    You have got to be joking - they most certainly do not. A couple of weeks ago I was in Cornelscourt on a Saturday and one of the first aid charities was on the trolley lanes doing packing. My packer was a gormless-looking teenage boy, about 15 or so. As I had a black canvas bag I was able to keep control of things so I stepped forward holding on to my bag when the girl stared scanning my stuff. Midway through the process and with my bag half full she scanned a head of lettuce and fired it down the slope towards me, I pushed it to one side to put it in last and what did my packer do? He picked it up and tried to put it in the bag even though there was several heavy items still to go in, I politely took it from him and told him I would do the packing so he backed off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭LynnGrace


    The only charity thing I don't mind is the old ladies sitting in a corner somewhere (probably talking to one of their friends) collecting for something or other. Bag packers, chuggers,door to door and those guys that set up stalls outside doors of shops/post offices and get in your face about it can f right off.

    I'm the same really. It saddened me at Christmas seeing elderly people sitting in my local shopping centre with the Rehab teddy bears. I don't think they were getting much support, understandably. They were still prepared to give their time, and effort, as they had been doing, probably for years.
    I pack my own bags at the checkout, but throw in a few euro, if I have it, and depending on what they are collecting for.
    I do not entertain chuggers of any sort, I steer clear. I don't entertain door to door callers of any sort either.
    Like many others, I have my own 'pet' charities that I support, for one reason, or another, and I stick with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I got something similar in Elvery's here. .
    I had similar in mcdonalds
    rubadub wrote: »
    I was in McDonalds and asked if I wanted to donate a euro, or maybe 2 euro to some childrens charity by the person serving me. I didn't see them doing it to anybody else, could have been since I handed in a 50 note and they might be under orders. The server seemed possibly embarrassed or awkward about doing it, like they way they used to have to ask "do you want fries with that", when they knew fine well you probably didn't.

    I doubt the server got any take of the profits, like normal chuggers would, who would be more enthusiastic about their loophole begging.

    They had charity cookies at the counter too, she wasn't offering me them or anything.

    I expect many of the teenagers are also roped into doing this gig and would rather have no part of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Bosley1421


    ^^

    I'd say that was for their Ronald McDonald House in Crumlin hospital.
    They normally just keep the charity tins at the till, I've never seen them offer the opportunity to donate, like a link save purchase to the customer almost.

    I hope they don't begin to pressure people into it, and I say that as someone who has experience of the House, it's a fantastic initiative.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    MYOB wrote: »
    I think I quite seriously shocked the assistant in a TJ Maxx in a poor-ish part of Oregon by agreeing to that - they'd just asked in general without an amount and I ended up giving $5. Was saving more than that with their 0% sales tax anyway...

    TK Maxx in Ireland have on a few occasions asked me if I wanted to add a €1 onto my total for charity!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭BnB


    I don't really mind them at too much. Because I've been involved in raising money over the years for different clubs etc, (never done packing though) I know it's not easy to do and I appreciate anyone who gets up off their a55 to do it. Pitches, facilities gear, insurance etc all has to be paid for. For every parent that is at a checkout packing bags, there are 10 more with their kids using the same facilities, who are at home sitting on their holes.

    That said though, it does annoy me when I see a few sulky teenagers there who are just standing around and basically begging. Because I will give them some kind of a donation either way, I will scan the checkouts to see which one has packers that look like they know what they are doing and get some value from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    I guess though my question would be why do you expect the general shopping public to pay for your pitches, equipment etc? Surely the parents who's kids are in said clubs should be forking out, or hold general fundraiser events AT the club where people can choose to come and support


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    hdowney wrote: »
    I guess though my question would be why do you expect the general shopping public to pay for your pitches, equipment etc? Surely the parents who's kids are in said clubs should be forking out, or hold general fundraiser events AT the club where people can choose to come and support

    My question would as be to the company themselves, if they want to help out charities that's fine donate some of their profits but don't push **** on to your customers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    I am on the parents association of my kids school and one of the parents has booked a bag packing day in Tesco around Halloween. We are a tiny school so all of us are expected to cover a slot on the day. The thought of it is terrorising me already.

    I can think of nothing worse to do in relation to fundraising.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    I am on the parents association of my kids school and one of the parents has booked a bag packing day in Tesco around Halloween. We are a tiny school so all of us are expected to cover a slot on the day. The thought of it is terrorising me already.

    I can think of nothing worse to do in relation to fundraising.

    What do the parents association intend to do with the cash raised? Would there be cash available then to the parents of a child who couldn't afford the crested tracksuit etc for instance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    What do the parents association intend to do with the cash raised? Would there be cash available then to the parents of a child who couldn't afford the crested tracksuit etc for instance?

    Oh come on! Schools are always strapped for cash. Library resources, IT equipment, classroom teaching aids. The list is endless.
    I still don't like charity bag packers though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I am on the parents association of my kids school ...
    Did you or anyone else voice their disapproval? I expect others would similarly not be happy about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    I am on the parents association of my kids school and one of the parents has booked a bag packing day in Tesco around Halloween. We are a tiny school so all of us are expected to cover a slot on the day. The thought of it is terrorising me already.

    I can think of nothing worse to do in relation to fundraising.

    I would be honest with them, I'd tell them that I'm more than happy to help out with fundraising (a cake sale or car boot sale for example) but that I find bag packing fundraising to be an uncomfortable experience from both sides so I'd rather just not get involved with this particular project ........ they'd surely have to respect and understand your feelings and if they don't well .......... **** them!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Oh come on! Schools are always strapped for cash. Library resources, IT equipment, classroom teaching aids. The list is endless.
    I still don't like charity bag packers though!

    I know its just that I am personally aware of 2 seperate incidents of Parents Association secerataries stealing funds from the A/C.
    In one case the entire account was wiped out by someone under severe financial pressure but every penny has been repaid over a period of 2 years (€10000)
    The other case is far more complex, almost clinical embezzlement over many many years (€50000) by someone very comfortably off an extremely overpowering individual highly respected until this in a small rural community. Its in the hands of the Gardai now and the person has adopted a " you can't prove anything" attitude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    I know its just that I am personally aware of 2 seperate incidents of Parents Association secerataries stealing funds from the A/C.
    In one case the entire account was wiped out by someone under severe financial pressure but every penny has been repaid over a period of 2 years (€10000)
    The other case is far more complex, almost clinical embezzlement over many many years (€50000) by someone very comfortably off an extremely overpowering individual highly respected until this in a small rural community. Its in the hands of the Gardai now and the person has adopted a " you can't prove anything" attitude.

    Surely that has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of charity bagpackers, be they for schools or not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    I'm neither here nor there on bag packers and I haven't seen any here in the Netherlands, just curious about:
    MadDog76 wrote: »
    this is of course ignored as they stuff tins of beans onto your sliced pan which ruins the beans on toast you'd planned to have later
    calex71 wrote: »
    I've always said no thinks for the same reason as above , bread gets packed 1st and anything and everything put in on top :mad:

    ...eggs at the bottom etc. How do you unload your trolley onto the belt? I always try to unload bottles, cans, milk jugs etc first, then cleaning products, then meat packets, then boxes of stuff and finish up with the eggs, crisps, bread and anything else I'm trying to keep in good shape. Then I pack my bags with the heavy stuff that came down first, bulk them out with the plastic packets and boxes and then put the delicate stuff on top, and one bag for non-food. Obviously bag packers should doing this too but if they're loading the beans on top of the bread (or putting strawberries in the same bag as the bleach) what way were the groceries slung down the belt? 'Cos never mind bag packers, the till assistant doesn't care if your beans squash your bread either!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Surely that has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of charity bagpackers, be they for schools or not?

    Most bag packing around here is for the various Parents Associations and these incidents have certainly coloured my attitude as a result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Surely that has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of charity bagpackers, be they for schools or not?

    I agree .......... I started this thread because I don't like bag packing fundraisers regardless of the charity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    I'm neither here nor there on bag packers and I haven't seen any here in the Netherlands, just curious about:




    ...eggs at the bottom etc. How do you unload your trolley onto the belt? I always try to unload bottles, cans, milk jugs etc first, then cleaning products, then meat packets, then boxes of stuff and finish up with the eggs, crisps, bread and anything else I'm trying to keep in good shape. Then I pack my bags with the heavy stuff that came down first, bulk them out with the plastic packets and boxes and then put the delicate stuff on top, and one bag for non-food. Obviously bag packers should doing this too but if they're loading the beans on top of the bread (or putting strawberries in the same bag as the bleach) what way were the groceries slung down the belt? 'Cos never mind bag packers, the till assistant doesn't care if your beans squash your bread either!

    The problem is while you're grabbing the heavy items first to pack your bag the bag packers are reaching across you to grab whatever comes to hand first and shoving it into whatever bag they see first ........... I've now gotten into the habit of saying no thanks (which is usually ignored) and leaving my bags in the car (I fill the trolley and pack my bags in the car boot) and just ignoring the charity jar as I push my trolley past them ......... has been working a treat so far :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    The problem is while you're grabbing the heavy items first to pack your bag the bag packers are reaching across you to grab whatever comes to hand first and shoving it into whatever bag they see first

    They really need some training, then! I'm sure some people are fussier then me and others less fussy than me but a bit of common sense needs to be drilled into kids doing the job. It's now your stuff and you care about it getting back to your house in decent shape and some child flinging the items into the bags willy nilly with no thought for weight and structual integrity is not worth paying for.

    If they could do a decent job where they're actually helping you out instead of destroying your food then people might be more kindly disposed towards them - charity fundraisers take note!

    They should also be very much aware that not everyone is willing or able to donate and be prepared to take a step back if so requested. Or carry groceries to the car in exchange for a donation instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    They really need some training, then! I'm sure some people are fussier then me and others less fussy than me but a bit of common sense needs to be drilled into kids doing the job. It's now your stuff and you care about it getting back to your house in decent shape and some child flinging the items into the bags willy nilly with no thought for weight and structual integrity is not worth paying for.

    If they could do a decent job where they're actually helping you out instead of destroying your food then people might be more kindly disposed towards them - charity fundraisers take note!

    They should also be very much aware that not everyone is willing or able to donate and be prepared to take a step back if so requested. Or carry groceries to the car in exchange for a donation instead.

    The problem is it's not a "job" and a lot of the people doing don't seem to be really happy doing it .......... they will never care about your stuff.
    Supermarkets need to do a survey asking their customers if they would rather have the bag packers or not and act accordingly depending on the results of the survey ie BAN THEM!!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    Most bag packing around here is for the various Parents Associations and these incidents have certainly coloured my attitude as a result.

    Still you have no reason to slate all parents associations because of theft elsewhere. I know of fraud and theft prosecuted against persons in a GAA club, a youth club for the disabled, and a parish. Does that then suggest everybody involved in funding of any of those groups is also on the take? Of course not! Your logic does not hold. Dislike bagpackers because you would like to pack your own bags, if you wish. But not because they could all be stealing the funds. Theft could be happening any money you give anybody anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    I am on the parents association of my kids school and one of the parents has booked a bag packing day in Tesco around Halloween. We are a tiny school so all of us are expected to cover a slot on the day. The thought of it is terrorising me already.

    I can think of nothing worse to do in relation to fundraising.

    Honestly you need to tell them you are not prepared to do it. That you have issues with this particular form of fundraising. You have no problem doing a bake sale, bring and buy etc but you don't do back packs. No-one can force you to do something you disagree with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1



    What irks me is when buying fuel at Topaz, the counter assistant asking me for an extra €1 for their particular charity. If Topaz want to support a particular charity by donating a cent per tank fill or whatever that's fine, but by asking me to give a €1 its taking the p*ss unless they match it Euro for Euro.

    Applegreen donate 1c out of each euro to charity. It's advertised heavily in their stores, well my local one anyway. Just had a look at their website and they have a page for it. Crumlin Childrens Hospital and a charity I never heard of before to do with parents of young families struggling with beareavement

    Applegreen will push their loyalty card on you but they never ask for charity money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Snoopy1


    Went to tesco once in a.world of my own. Got asked if I wanted my bags packed for charity. Looked up and it was my ex fiancee doing the packing. Awkward!!!!
    I'll always say no, and keep hold of the bags so they can't just go ahead anyway. Plus I shop mostly in lidl now :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Snoopy1 wrote: »
    Went to tesco once in a.world of my own. Got asked if I wanted my bags packed for charity. Looked up and it was my ex fiancee doing the packing. Awkward!!!!
    I'll always say no, and keep hold of the bags so they can't just go ahead anyway. Plus I shop mostly in lidl now :)

    I'm assuming you gave your ex something? A euro at least!! lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭umop.episdn


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I'm assuming you gave your ex something? A euro at least!! lol

    He did....a dose of the clap.....why do you think she's his ex?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Snoopy1 wrote: »
    I'll always say no, and keep hold of the bags so they can't just go ahead anyway. :)

    Ding ding ding....we have a winner for today's Use Your Brain Award. :D

    I don't mind the collectors. I never use them, as I prefer to do my own packing, for the obvious reason of not wanting heavy items on top of the squishy ones. When asked if I require help I always find that a loud "No thanks, I have my own packing system that I prefer to use" always works.

    I have never had someone ignore me and just start packing anyway. If that does happen to someone repeatedly, then perhaps they just need to communicate better, louder and clearer?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Snoopy1


    He did....a dose of the clap.....why do you think she's his ex?!

    I'm female


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭umop.episdn


    Snoopy1 wrote: »
    I'm female

    Other way around so? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    I absolutely hate it when they are in stores, or even at the entrance of a store. Begging has no place at all and I genuinely get quite angry about it. If I see any in a shop I will go to the self-service tills, but if that is not possible, I just walk out of the shop and they lose my custom. I am going to write to the shops about this demanding an explanation as to why they feel its OK to make their customers feel obliged to donate or face the embarrassment of having to say no.

    I do not want to be faced with that choice, I want to buy my goods and leave guilt free.

    I wonder if shouting and making a big scene in the shop every single time it happens to me will draw attention to customers discomfort at this disgusting practice. As far as I am concerned, standing back is not good enough, I dont even want to see them. Besides virtually every single charity is a complete and utter scam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    This is another reason why i shop online, i already contribute to several charities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    What do the parents association intend to do with the cash raised? Would there be cash available then to the parents of a child who couldn't afford the crested tracksuit etc for instance?

    As it's a small school, we get very little funding and it's quite old also. Over the past 3 years we have painted the school internally, got new carpets, new shelving, iPads. In the process now of getting games painted permanently onto the Tarmac plus a few other things for the kids.

    The school isn't strict on crested anything so we don't have that pressure. We subsidise sports lessons so the parents don't have the whole cost etc. everything we raise is for the kids in relation to their education, safety, comfort and enjoyment. They are only kids for a small time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I don't have an issue with bag packing in supermarkets, so long as it is for causes that benefit the local community. I also feel that it should only be done by registered charity groups. I won't give to sports clubs or schools, tbh I've no interest in subsidising other people's kids leisure activities. As for school collections, if they can't raise the money among the parents then they should just do without.

    When I was at school there was none of this sending kids door to door with sponsorship cards and bag packing for schools.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    rubadub wrote: »
    Did you or anyone else voice their disapproval? I expect others would similarly not be happy about it.

    They know I am not keen, but as we are such a small school, we need all hands on deck, so to speak to cover the whole day.

    We know that it's a quick way to get some funding, even if we don't enjoy doing it. We just have to look at the end result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    I know its just that I am personally aware of 2 seperate incidents of Parents Association secerataries stealing funds from the A/C.
    In one case the entire account was wiped out by someone under severe financial pressure but every penny has been repaid over a period of 2 years (€10000)
    The other case is far more complex, almost clinical embezzlement over many many years (€50000) by someone very comfortably off an extremely overpowering individual highly respected until this in a small rural community. Its in the hands of the Gardai now and the person has adopted a " you can't prove anything" attitude.

    That is always a worry, but we have 3 people authorised to withdraw money, any two have to be there to sign for it. All funding is counted after any event by the commitee members together. All lodgement receipts are then copied and emailed to each member. We are a decent bunch though, think we are all trustworthy!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,755 ✭✭✭A V A


    I can get peoples frustration with these charity bag packers, a lot of them are absolute gobshoites, but i use to do a lot of this kind of fundraising with the scouts to fund trips etc I can tell everybody reading this thread that is a success way for funding raising for any cause once its approached in the right manner with the best intentions. To reference a comment about not letting a teenage boy pack bags, there is no difference between a boy and girl with this issue, they are both useless at times. Putting a load of bread at the bottom of a bottom with a 2 2litre bottles on top lol house hold supplies like bleach , washing liquid in with fruit vegetables lol its funny but a learning curve for them too, even tho its just packing bags. and even packing 2 or 3 things into one bag with the customer only having 3 bags to do her whole shop and they have already used the bags she had with a full load left to pack .....lol its endless . but there are some adults that should know better :mad::o

    I especially despise football teams, the most ignorant,rude and disrespectful people of all i think. Had an incedent before where there was a team, and had 2 lads at my till, I said no thanks politly and packed my bags myself, (since iv done a fair few time :p) but i put a €5 euro note in anyway , because to me being in the scouts and been given donations helped me do things as a kid and kept me off the streets etc so i saw them benefiting in the same way that i did. The continued to talk and curse, ignored me putting the money in the bucket and didn't even say thank you after seeing me put the money in. On my way out, I said to what seemed to be the team coach, that when someone donates money for a cause , a thank you would be nice and would go a long way. I got told to fcuk off . . . i sniggered at the coach, put my bags down against the wall, went back to till i came from and took my fiver back out of the bucket, went back to my bags where the coach was and told him to go fcuk himself and that with the attitude he has, the only people that will suffer is those kids, he said the usual, 'you can't do that" blah blah blah I just picked up and left & laughed at him. Iv never came across this. Iv played for football teams since i was 11 tip i was 18 or 19, I know what the typical soccer head can be like (not all, some) , a little less tuned in with manners etc lol :pac: but there is almost usually a manager with a team that is 100% a gent. Couldn't believe this guy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    I think some here have missed my point ............ I don't like bag packing as a form of fund raising no matter what the cause ........... whether scouts are more deserving that a football team is another debate altogether!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,755 ✭✭✭A V A


    I never said scouts are more deserving of fundraising for a case over a soccer team lol :confused::rolleyes:


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