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The Chillout Zone (Off-Topic Thread)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭mymo


    Tiffi was very quiet last night, wouldn't jump up on the sofa like usual, so I lifted her, she curled up and didn't do her usual 'seal flop' (kinda turns and flops half on her back against you for belly rubs) and this morning I discovered why.
    One of her claws is damaged, it's currently upside down (curved upwards) and looks damaged at the base.
    I'm working until 10 tonight, so daughter will have to get her to the vet. Lucky it's not far, she's heavy to carry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    6 years ago today :pac: :

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    We're officially a two cat household, I gave in!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭reallyrose


    ooooh so cute....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Layinghen


    Congratulations. Think you made the right decision:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Charlie went to the vet yesterday evening, all his glands are swollen and the vet could feel a mass in his abdomen. Bloods came back normal, they're going to take a sample of his glands on Monday. Lymphoma was mentioned. He's only just turning 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Zapperzy wrote: »
    Charlie went to the vet yesterday evening, all his glands are swollen and the vet could feel a mass in his abdomen. Bloods came back normal, they're going to take a sample of his glands on Monday. Lymphoma was mentioned. He's only just turning 10

    Oh hopefully he's alright. That's what we lost our Shadow to at almost 11 :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Poor Charlie! A worrying weekend ahead for you! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    A bit of a downer alright from officially adopting Freya. The vet isint very optimistic, I think it's a FNA there doing Monday morning, results back on Wednesday that'll tell us either way what it is. Regular bloods were all fine, no values up or down, not sure if that's a good or bad thing. His breathing has gotten a bit raspy and faster than normal since yesterday evening. I hadn't seen him in a few weeks but he hasn't lost condition and is only a little less perky than normal.

    Fingers crossed all is ok, after losing bunty in November don't think we could lose him too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭bluecherry74


    Fingers and paws crossed for Charlie. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭mymo


    Oh no, zapperzy I hope Charlie is ok.

    Freya is beautiful, we had called our tortie girl Freya initially but my daughter decided within a day or two it didn't suit her (Her personality just wasn't a Freya) and renamed her Ruby.

    Fingers crossed for Charlie.x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Was left with no other choice but to lock Opie outside for five minutes. He's been holding his breakfast poo since about 8 this morning and I could actually smell it waiting at the ready :P
    I put him out, closed the door and he quickly figured out that he wasn't getting back in until he did his business. I look out the kitchen window, and the daft animal is sitting on the step to the shed, in the lashing rain, squeaky in his mouth.

    The step to the shed, which has an open door, his crate, his blankets and all of his outdoor toys. We only put the crate out there because it's taking up space inside since he doesn't sleep in it any more. Figured since he recognises it he might have the gumption to use it.

    Nope. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭mymo


    I made my two go out around 10.30 too, Oliver ran out did his business and ran back fully expecting the door to be open, I saw him coming and opened the door just as he ran into it, he looked embarrassed and wagged his tail as he walked away.
    Tiffi meanwhile takes her time, flinching like every rain drop burns, and comes in soaked and looking miserable, curls up giving me the 'you're an evil bitch' stare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    mymo wrote: »
    I made my two go out around 10.30 too, Oliver ran out did his business and ran back fully expecting the door to be open, I saw him coming and opened the door just as he ran into it, he looked embarrassed and wagged his tail as he walked away.
    Tiffi meanwhile takes her time, flinching like every rain drop burns, and comes in soaked and looking miserable, curls up giving me the 'you're an evil bitch' stare.

    I can see that in my head. Opie refused to go out yesterday evening until my OH headed out to put an old desk in the shed to sit the drier on (I'm too pregnant to kneel down at it now :P ). Bloody idiot ran outside in the rain and danced about in it like it was heaven's stream of everlasting youth and as soon as OH went back inside he ran after him like his arse had been scalded :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Ah I feel a bit bad for not taking the dogs out on our usual weekend trek! My friend isn't with us today (going to Croker poor thing) so I was being lazy! We had a lonnnnng walk yesterday in St Anne's and the dogs jumped into the pond for the first time because Rebel jumped in - normally they run around the edge but I thought had the sense not to get in because the drop is too high for them that they wouldn't be able to get out... Anyways the STINK was awful lol had to wash them when I came home :p This morning Bailey ran out for a wee but Lucy stood frozen squinting her eyes at the rain, then they both came in and took to their beds! I went and got some bits and pieces in Aldi then took them for a quick run to the park...which was cut short when the guy with his ****yy little jrts stood laughing as the other one for a change went for the three of us - I had my two on lead near the river so they wouldn't be tempted to jump in. I bit my tongue as usual and then came home in a temper! :mad: Then we did some training instead which exhausted them. Funny how one of them can pick something up straight away but it takes the other longer lol - even when the one who has learnt what to do is showing off and rubbing it in their face lol!! :pac:

    Update - nice argument to start the week with said jrt owner. I just had enough of it - the dog was tripping me up trying to go for Lucy! :mad: Asked him if he'd be happy for my dogs to run barking at his and well...now we know where his dogs get their aggression from(!) I also warned him that Lucy is only 2 - sooner or later she'll stand up to his dog and it'll get hurt. He just repeated everything I was saying .. It ended with me telling him to put the dog on a lead when it's near us or I'll be calling the dog warden on him 'oh will you now'
    'I will so that'll be a nice bill for you - 4 licenses'

    And breathe....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    I'm after getting a job working in a branch of one of Ireland's main pet shops, excitement! Looking forward to getting to meet new animals on a daily basis! And the customers too I suppose :P


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭angeldaisy


    I'm after getting a job working in a branch of one of Ireland's main pet shops, excitement! Looking forward to getting to meet new animals on a daily basis! And the customers too I suppose :P

    Congrats!!! Which one?? Might bump into you at some stage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    tk123 wrote: »
    Update - nice argument to start the week with said jrt owner. I just had enough of it - the dog was tripping me up trying to go for Lucy! :mad: Asked him if he'd be happy for my dogs to run barking at his and well...now we know where his dogs get their aggression from(!) I also warned him that Lucy is only 2 - sooner or later she'll stand up to his dog and it'll get hurt. He just repeated everything I was saying .. It ended with me telling him to put the dog on a lead when it's near us or I'll be calling the dog warden on him 'oh will you now'
    'I will so that'll be a nice bill for you - 4 licenses'

    And breathe....

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad:
    And you can be sure if the warden went near him he'd have a plan in place to make your life hell :(

    Also, zapperzy - any update on poor Charlie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad:
    And you can be sure if the warden went near him he'd have a plan in place to make your life hell :(

    He skulked off out of the park this morning before we got in and I could see him looking over his shoulder! My only regret is that I didn't record the dog coming at us yesterday. Anyways I won't be taking any crap off him - I may be 5 foot but my bro is a LOT taller and menacing and would be more than happy to have a quiet word with him! See how brave he is then :p This is the same guy who covers the dogs poo with a leaf and steps on it rather than pick it up!! :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad:
    And you can be sure if the warden went near him he'd have a plan in place to make your life hell :(

    Also, zapperzy - any update on poor Charlie?

    Haven't heard from mum this morning but up to last night he was in good form. Had samples taken yesterday morning hopefully have the results back Thursday. He's mostly his usual self, off his biscuits but no wonder when he's wolfing down chicken, scrambled egg, rocco tinned food and any human biscuits he can beg off people. Sleeps a lot but will perk up if he sees his lead or throw a ball for him. Apart from his glands being swollen and his breathing being caught up you wouldn't think anything is wrong with him.

    Fingers, toes and paws crossed it's just an infection but the vet doesn't hold much hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Zapperzy wrote: »
    Haven't heard from mum this morning but up to last night he was in good form. Had samples taken yesterday morning hopefully have the results back Thursday. He's mostly his usual self, off his biscuits but no wonder when he's wolfing down chicken, scrambled egg, rocco tinned food and any human biscuits he can beg off people. Sleeps a lot but will perk up if he sees his lead or throw a ball for him. Apart from his glands being swollen and his breathing being caught up you wouldn't think anything is wrong with him.

    Fingers, toes and paws crossed it's just an infection but the vet doesn't hold much hope.

    That sounds really good, I must say. Shadow was considerably worse from the get-go if it's any consolation. He wouldn't even take much human food except for the really good stuff (ice-cream and tea) and he certainly wasn't chasing any toys :o
    Fingers crossed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Fingers crosses for poor Charlie - my first secret santa recipient! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    It's amazing how many grown men melt at the sight of my GSD pup, also how many are so impressed when I can ask a little baby thing like him to sit by using just a word.

    Also... gotta love the local bin men I've seen every time I've been out with my little lad. One of them was playing with him and had one of those picky-uppy sticks and was letting my pup mess with it. Desensitizing him to ALL the things! Just have to tackle the excitement barking.

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    hehe my company is doing a <company name>'s got talent and one of the categories is goofy human and pet tricks up to 5 prizes in each category - 1st - 1k, 2nd - 500, 3rd - 250 ... I wonder if I should enter a video of one of the dogs doing a trick?!?! What's a good trick though!? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    tk123 wrote: »
    hehe my company is doing a <company name>'s got talent and one of the categories is goofy human and pet tricks up to 5 prizes in each category - 1st - 1k, 2nd - 500, 3rd - 250 ... I wonder if I should enter a video of one of the dogs doing a trick?!?! What's a good trick though!? :confused:

    For 1k?

    I'll do the bloody trick dressed as a dog and go halvsies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    For 1k?

    I'll do the bloody trick dressed as a dog and go halvsies.

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    They have their "trick dog" titles lol so I think it's worth a shot! :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭ACD


    The blackberries are ripening in my area and our dogs are having a feast :D I find it fascinating how they know exactly which ones are the sweetest, especially my boy Bandy is very picky, he goes with his nose through them and only picks the best. The girls are way less picky, anything that's black goes :D One of the girls heads directly to the bushes as soon as we enter the field and starts harvesting :D Time to teach them to bring some home!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Results are back and Charlie has lymphoma. There's a vet in galway that offers chemo, other option is just steroids. Chemo is between 2,000-2,500. Tough choices ahead. Anyone have any experience with dog chemo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭bluecherry74


    So sorry Zapperzy. I think I remember anniehoo saying her dog had chemo for lymphoma - might be worth pming her if she's still active on boards. I lost a dog to lymphoma a few years ago and opted for steroids. They didn't extend her life, but they vastly improved her last few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭on_my_oe


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭on_my_oe


    Zapperzy wrote: »
    Results are back and Charlie has lymphoma. There's a vet in galway that offers chemo, other option is just steroids. Chemo is between 2,000-2,500. Tough choices ahead. Anyone have any experience with dog chemo?

    :( really sorry to hear this, was hoping no news was good news! Whatever choice you make, have faith as Charlie's human you know what's best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    Puppy got attacked. I'm silently freaked out if it's going to affect his development, especially as he's a GSD. :(

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    Zapperzy, very sorry to hear about Charlie - how old is he? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    VonVix wrote: »
    Puppy got attacked. I'm silently freaked out if it's going to affect his development, especially as he's a GSD. :(

    Hope he is ok? Poor little puppy, I hope he's not hurt. Its so horrible having a gentle innocent little puppy attacked by another dog :mad: Hope it doesnt impact him too much - get him back out there, with your eyes peeled, and a very large stick to wave off any incoming bullies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    aonb wrote: »
    Hope he is ok? Poor little puppy, I hope he's not hurt. Its so horrible having a gentle innocent little puppy attacked by another dog :mad: Hope it doesnt impact him too much - get him back out there, with your eyes peeled, and a very large stick to wave off any incoming bullies

    Yeah, he's totally fine, even though he was grabbed by the neck and he started whipping his head. I reacted faster than the owner did in getting him off my boy. He has just been subdued ever since. I just feel my boy is at a particular sensitive period at the moment, so it's terrible timing for something like this to happen.

    The killer part is he was a familiar dog, not a strange dog.

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    aonb wrote: »
    Zapperzy, very sorry to hear about Charlie - how old is he? :(

    He's a rescue but we reckon he's turning 10 sometime between now and January. He's only a little cairn cross, gotten a bit grey in the last year or so but he's in good shape, expected he'd at least make it into his early to mid teens.

    I think my next pet is going to be a tortoise or a parrot, something that will outlive me. Losing pets is exhausting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Oh poor Charlie :( I've known a few dogs who had chemo and tbh they just seemed to be wasting away and at most got a few extra months. When we thought Bailey had cancer last year I was thinking it wasn't an avenue I'd go down but of course easy to say when you're not in that position yourself. I'm sure you'll make the best decision for him!

    Bailey is 1 year post op tomorrow! I sent a card off to UCD and my friend did some cupcakes for me for our own vets as a thank you for looking after him before the op and for all of the lumps and bumps since then from Bailey AND Lucy eg..poking a hole in one eye with a grass seed then it got infected and turned blue like a ghost eye, poking a hole in the other eye with a stick, keeping Lucy until late after noon after she'd been spayed so I could get Bailey out for a long run on Halloween to help tire him out before the fireworks starts, Always taking his bloods in the examination room so he can stay with me instead of stressing him out taking him in the back, X-rays, bizarre infection cause by a pathogen oh and a cut paw 8 stitches long! BRATS! :rolleyes::P

    You can't really see in the pic but they have Woof and Thank You stamped into them :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭Cows Go µ


    VonVix wrote: »
    Yeah, he's totally fine, even though he was grabbed by the neck and he started whipping his head. I reacted faster than the owner did in getting him off my boy. He has just been subdued ever since. I just feel my boy is at a particular sensitive period at the moment, so it's terrible timing for something like this to happen.

    The killer part is he was a familiar dog, not a strange dog.

    This is (one of) my biggest fears with my puppy. I've got a sheltie, a breed known for shyness so I've gone to great pains to get a puppy that has been really well socialised and I'm doing my best to keep it going. But it would be so awful if that was all undone by one dog.

    The only thing you do is make sure he gets lots of good experiences now so it doesn't put him off. And make sure you don't stress when you see other dogs, he'll know.


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    In other news, (like in my own post, she had her's, I'll have mine) my brother decided to build a fishpond in the garden at my mam's. Our 8 year old Springer LOVES to swim. So far the walls around it aren't finished so there's no fish in it either, but Sonny runs out first thing and has a dip in his newly built home swimming pool. The 11 month old Lab, Reggie, hasn't got to grips with swimming yet. He fell in one day while trying to follow Sonny. I saw a video of it! My brother anticipated such things and has build steps into the side for the dogs to get out! My mother told me today Reggie has fallen in a second time. Not that she was there to see it, the doors were open and the first she was aware was when a distressed pup ran flying through the house soaking wet. Apparently my brother is finishing the dog-proofing this weekend!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    Cows Go µ wrote: »
    This is (one of) my biggest fears with my puppy. I've got a sheltie, a breed known for shyness so I've gone to great pains to get a puppy that has been really well socialised and I'm doing my best to keep it going. But it would be so awful if that was all undone by one dog.

    The only thing you do is make sure he gets lots of good experiences now so it doesn't put him off. And make sure you don't stress when you see other dogs, he'll know.

    Trying! But I do stress when I see other dogs on walks, only because he barks ferociously wanting to meet them, which I don't want to reward nor is it fair on someone else's dog because he can be quite intimidating sounding. He is so much better off leash but I can only do off l leash scenarios once a week. I won't take him to the local dog park as my sheltie's did have issues from there (before I knew anything) and I don't want a repeat performance.

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭Cows Go µ


    VonVix wrote: »
    Trying! But I do stress when I see other dogs on walks, only because he barks ferociously wanting to meet them, which I don't want to reward nor is it fair on someone else's dog because he can be quite intimidating sounding. He is so much better off leash but I can only do off l leash scenarios once a week. I won't take him to the local dog park as my sheltie's did have issues from there (before I knew anything) and I don't want a repeat performance.

    And it's so hard not to stress! Telling yourself not to won't change the body language that's telling him you think something is wrong. Sometimes their amazing ability to read our body language better than most humans is damned inconvenient! The barking is so hard to get rid of because it's self rewarding. They bark then the other dog walks past and leaves so he thinks it worked

    At least you don't have to worry about him spooking when off lead so you can do it as often as possible. Pepper's better off lead too but if she gets genuinely scared she will run for the hills and never look back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    My poor little dog, playing his favourite game last night - hes obsessed with sticks and balls - throw & fetch - pulled up last night and wouldnt move. Obviously in a lot of pain. In to the vet first thing this a.m. and yep, his cruciate ligament is torn, think the vet said there was a bit of tendon damage there too. I could SCREAM with frustration - we knew he over did it when playing that game, but he ADORES it so much, and begs and begs and begs for it every evening. The vet was nice and said "you have to let them be dogs". So poor little wuff is home now, after xrays etc, and doped up to the eyeballs. Hes scheduled for surgery on thursday a.m. I could just puke at the idea of the post-op ordeal, but cant be thinking about that just now :( Poor little pup has zero pain tolerance - total wimp


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭angeldaisy


    Ellie demonstrating perfectly how clever and stupid she can be.....

    She has ran out of holes in the fence to escape through, so decided to try climbing the fence. She succeeded yesterday - very clever girl - she watched where my son climbs the fence and copied him. The stupid bit is that she hasn't managed to work out that the entire fence is the same height and that she could escape over any bit of the fence if she so wished.

    Again, this morning, she demonstrated how clever she can be. She started talking to me and doing her "i need a wee" dance. I knew she didn't need one, but let her out just in case. She ran straight to the bottom of the garden to tell off the calves that were too close to her property!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    angeldaisy wrote: »
    Again, this morning, she demonstrated how clever she can be. She started talking to me and doing her "i need a wee" dance. I knew she didn't need one, but let her out just in case. She ran straight to the bottom of the garden to tell off the calves that were too close to her property!!

    Well whatever you do don't teach her to ring a bell to go out! Lucy has us driven mad some days ringing the bell louder and louder so she can go out and maybe drink out of a flower pot or :rolleyes::p

    aonb your poor dog! :( Try not to stress too much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Layinghen


    Aonb so sorry to read about your poor little woof. My little darling damaged her cruciate ligament last year (no surgery, it was treated conservatively due to her being only a small dog) and I still remember the hours of doggy physio that I had to do with her. It all worked out brilliant though and now she is back to her old ways again but would I like to do it again? - NO.

    Fingers crossed that tomorrow goes well and after a few months hard work your lad will be back on track again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    All the hard work is forgotten the first time you let them off lead for a run again... Admittedly it's replaced by panic the first few times lol but then once you realise that they're ok you can relax knowing that all the hard work paid off!

    I think he was a year post op in this! :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭ACD


    Sorry to hear about your dog Aonb, don't beat yourself up, accidents happen. I had a similar scenario couple months ago, playing fetch with a pup- he jumped after a ball and fell, ended up with a broken leg. I remember feeling guilty about it, but it's just pure bad luck. He's fine now, back to running and jumping, you'd never guess that there was something wrong. Best of luck with the surgery, hope your pup will recover well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Zapperzy wrote: »
    Results are back and Charlie has lymphoma. There's a vet in galway that offers chemo, other option is just steroids. Chemo is between 2,000-2,500. Tough choices ahead. Anyone have any experience with dog chemo?

    We were advised against chemo for Shadow, although in the hysteria of it, I'm not sure why. Possibly due to his age :(
    We opted for steroids and the vet said they can drastically improve their life for about a month at a time. He was significantly better for about 6 days, and then landslided downwards within the day :( Was actually this time last year we were deciding what to do :(

    So sorry to hear this, but if you can afford chemo and it is recommended, I would give it all you got.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    They bounce back after it - as long as you're careful and patient with the recovery. We went to Killiney Hill a few weeks back - my friend was never there until she started coming with us and wanted to see the quarry side - we usually take the other side as its a longer/gentler climb to the top. For anyone who doesn't know it there must be 100 stone steps maybe more to the top at the quarry side. Plan was to turn back instead of having the dogs go up them and before we could blink Bailey was gone up them with the other two following - he made it up first with his 'crippled legs'! :p We were half dead following them up lol!! :p


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