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Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

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  • #152
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I don't think this vehicle is new.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78053028&postcount=1193
    As far as I'm aware the outgoing Civil Defence Officer used it for his personal transport for a couple of years after the Nissan Pathfinder went to the Ballinasloe unit.
    Now that he has retired, it would appear that the City unit have spruced it up with some lights.


  • #153
    miju
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    curious as to why it's not in the usual CD livery and it's function / point of the lights


  • #154
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Reason it's not Civil Livery is because it was purchased 2nd hand from a private source (look at the reg) one of two I believe, the other is based in Oranmore to the best of my knowledge, also a maroon colour.
    Under these tough economic times I think you're going to find Civil vehicles around the country have a bit of a magpie livery set up, buy whatever vehicle we can afford, what ever the colour and retrofit Civil Defence markings. Not even Dublin CD are completely uniform, I believe a recent ambulance acquisition from DFB is to retain it's Red/Yellow batenburgs.

    The Lights are because we are a recognized emergency service in Galway and have drivers with Defensive Driving Training who can utilize the vehicle in attending a major emergency.


  • #155
    searescue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭searescue


    flazio wrote: »
    The Lights are because we are a recognized emergency service in Galway and have drivers with Defensive Driving Training who can utilize the vehicle in attending a major emergency.

    :p


  • #156
    miju
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    searescue wrote: »
    :p

    +1 really see no purpose for that vehicle to have lights fitted to it if it's not marked out properly or serves no function other than as a run around.

    actually galls me a bit as a tax payer to see that kinda thing going on as well


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  • #157
    An Udaras
    Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭An Udaras


    Personally I see no Problem with blue lights on any Civil Defence vehicle including on this jeep. Especially if there used during aid to community roles or in the past snow & ice when civil defence volunteers where out assisting their full time counterparts.

    If they require the blue lights for them to attend an incident or simply when stationary at a location where personal are deployed to alert passers by & to direct traffic etc..

    It's all about Safety..


  • #158
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Amber lights would do just as good a job.


  • #159
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I could try to assure people that Civil Defence members are not allowed to cut up traffic on blues whenever they feel like it but you'd never believe me.


  • #160
    miju
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    flazio wrote: »
    I could try to assure people that Civil Defence members are not allowed to cut up traffic on blues whenever they feel like it but you'd never believe me.

    In fairness though a jeep like that with blues with no actual function is a bit difficult to convince otherwise though I do believe you


  • #161
    TylerIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭TylerIE


    miju wrote: »
    +1 really see no purpose for that vehicle to have lights fitted to it if it's not marked out properly or serves no function other than as a run around.

    actually galls me a bit as a tax payer to see that kinda thing going on as well

    While flazio is somewhat misinformed over the actual Statutory position on Blue lights on CD vehicles, and current National Policy re same, the vehicles can sometimes warrant the lights. Galway Civil Defence certainly is one of the most active in the country, with an extremely high training standard and dedicated instructors and volunteers, but they aint any different under the law re lights etc.

    Civil Defence is a second line Emergency Service, and as such you could say everything they do or spend money on (other than direct service provision) serves no purpose.

    In the very servere bad weather CD were often doing transports to main roads to RV with the statutory services for patients in rural areas, and bringing doctors etc to incidents. In some areas they also assisted with road closures etc. In other areas they respond to Water Rescue incidents as tasked by the Fire Service.

    Also an isolated lightbar or roof light is probably cheaper than battenburg markings.


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  • #162
    ivabiggon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭ivabiggon


    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2006/en/si/0342.html

    i asked this before, where does it state the civil defence can use blue light, not been smart, just interested in knowning, would it maybe covered under the local authority act, or covered somewhere within the local authority covers it as running a fire service....not sure??


  • #163
    TylerIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭TylerIE


    ivabiggon wrote: »
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2006/en/si/0342.html

    i asked this before, where does it state the civil defence can use blue light, not been smart, just interested in knowning, would it maybe covered under the local authority act, or covered somewhere within the local authority covers it as running a fire service....not sure??

    CD arent given blanket cover. Ambulances are covered as ambulances, and fire appliances are semi covered as in Fire Appliances semi under the auspices of the Local Authority.

    Jeeps etc are not automatically covered and as I stated in another thread recently this was publicly spoken about at a CD Officers Conference a few years ago, and CD National policy is for jeeps / buses/ etc not to have blues.

    Im well aware that CD minibuses have been used at a number of notable Major Incidents for transporting minor injuries etc, but the legislation is what it is!


  • #164
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    and here is me thinking that this is a thread for discussing pictures. Sure blue lights now and there should be a cyclist along any minute.


  • #165
    d3exile
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭d3exile


    flazio wrote: »
    I believe a recent ambulance acquisition from DFB is to retain it's Red/Yellow batenburgs.

    The Lights are because we are a recognized emergency service in Galway and have drivers with Defensive Driving Training who can utilize the vehicle in attending a major emergency.

    That ambulance is no longer a DCD vehicle, but it's true maybe a fifth of Dublin CD vehicles are "magpied" into other colour schemes, with reasons being either budgetary or given that national CD took so long deciding on a colour scheme and have now gone with stripes that don't fit in with european directives for battenburg on ES vehicles working on highways and motorways.. anyhow you will find CD vehicles all over ireland using different colour schemes mainly due to the cost of respraying


    ivabiggon wrote: »
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2006/en/si/0342.html

    i asked this before, where does it state the civil defence can use blue light, not been smart, just interested in knowning, would it maybe covered under the local authority act, or covered somewhere within the local authority covers it as running a fire service....not sure??
    TylerIE wrote: »
    CD arent given blanket cover. Ambulances are covered as ambulances, and fire appliances are semi covered as in Fire Appliances semi under the auspices of the Local Authority.

    Jeeps etc are not automatically covered and as I stated in another thread recently this was publicly spoken about at a CD Officers Conference a few years ago, and CD National policy is for jeeps / buses/ etc not to have blues.

    Im well aware that CD minibuses have been used at a number of notable Major Incidents for transporting minor injuries etc, but the legislation is what it is!

    CD vehicles don't have any legal footing to use blue lights for response, and as such they should only be used by the drivers as warning lights, ie speeding, crossing solid white lines, breaking red lights etc is not an option...

    loosely as they are part funded by local authorities, some may argue that gives them the right, but it would take a hell of a lot for a volunteer to explain why they used emergency lights if they have or cause an accident enroute...

    The only basis of my opinions are from my experiences as a member of both DCD and AGS... I know DCD have blues on most vehicles and where possible trained (DFB or AGS) or experienced drivers would be used, and the likes of minibuses or heavier response equipment, when needed urgently would only really use blues under escort of AGS...

    sorry for giving my two cents cos I do agree with foreign's post, the issue is done to death every time it raises it's head, time to move on :o


  • #166
    have_a_go_hero
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭have_a_go_hero


    My other post in the Veichle gallery I must apologise for posting without a pic!! Rule slipped my mind again!!


  • #167
    Capri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    A slight bit off the mark but Hawaii cops get to use their own private cars, slap a blue light on the roof and off they go

    http://www.pbase.com/pryan/image/77949378

    'Book em Danno !'


  • #168
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78664406&postcount=1205

    540260_364995206881731_100001137657451_938581_2022366857_n.jpg

    Question was asked in the gallery what happened. Answer by following the link below.

    https://emergencyservicesforum.com/showthread.php?tid=4031


  • #169
    d3exile
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭d3exile


    Like the pic of the "Garda" buggys, presume they will handle better than the avensis too!

    Anyone know anything of the new tender? Supposedly the Toyota tender was only to cover the immediate need for 2011/12 and to replace all the cars that were shagged from the fleet cuts, but from what I hear there's a new tender out for 2013/14, could be anyone, frankly wouldn't be a fan of Toyota coming back in, Fords would be good but would love to see the rumoured BMW tender from last year that was apparently kicked back by the top man!


  • #170
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Just to throw it out, are the Octavias that the PSNI use any good? Would they be worth a look at for the South?


  • #171
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    d3exile wrote: »
    Like the pic of the "Garda" buggys, presume they will handle better than the avensis too!

    Anyone know anything of the new tender? Supposedly the Toyota tender was only to cover the immediate need for 2011/12 and to replace all the cars that were shagged from the fleet cuts, but from what I hear there's a new tender out for 2013/14, could be anyone, frankly wouldn't be a fan of Toyota coming back in, Fords would be good but would love to see the rumoured BMW tender from last year that was apparently kicked back by the top man!
    .

    A rumoured BMW tender, please expand. I cannot see it though, just imagine the ongoing maintenance costs of these vehicles. I would bet on Fords again though


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  • #172
    d3exile
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭d3exile


    flazio wrote: »
    Just to throw it out, are the Octavias that the PSNI use any good? Would they be worth a look at for the South?


    I'd be happy out with it, skoda have a very good rep and would be as cost efficient if not more then ford or Toyota...

    My only issue would be they should be powered right, this rubbish of strapping a bar light on to a 1.6 or 1.8 saloon is daft, the uk and a lot of other forces afaik use 'police spec' cars properly adapted for police work

    All that said no other saloon I've driven handles like a mondeo, power it right with a 2.0 or 2.2 and it's pretty much unmatched

    Edit-
    @kub
    Sorry only saw your post now,
    From what I'd heard BMW had won the tender for what Toyota did in 2011, and were to supply cars and servicing at a better price than the other companies, using the same factories and supply system they have in place in the uk for the same cars, just minor changes like irish registration and km/h instruments, effectively piggy backing on the UK order so, say 100 Irish cars ordered at the same time as 2/300 for the UK worked out cheaper or similar to 100 toyotas ordered direct?


  • #173
    Mr Simpson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    A BMW tender would be awesome, I doubt it'll happen though. A few octavia vrs's would be nice :)


  • #174
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    We all know what will happen, ordinary saloon cars will be purchased with as mentioned 1.6 engines in them and a blue strip will be on the roofs. Its going to be a pure numbers game. I suppose though a few 2.0-2.2 engined cars will be purchased for traffic, actually considering the amount of 06/07 TC Mondeos out there, they will be badly needed.


  • #175
    d3exile
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭d3exile


    kub wrote: »
    We all know what will happen, ordinary saloon cars will be purchased with as mentioned 1.6 engines in them and a blue strip will be on the roofs. Its going to be a pure numbers game. I suppose though a few 2.0-2.2 engined cars will be purchased for traffic, actually considering the amount of 06/07 TC Mondeos out there, they will be badly needed.

    Sorry kub edited my post above to answer your q bout the BMWs... Could be subject to Chinese whispers or pure BS of course but source is pretty reliable


  • #176
    Mr Simpson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    I could be wrong,but afaik, don't UK police forces lease vehicles rather than buy them?


  • #177
    [Deleted User]
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    BMW were rumoured for every one of the last few tenders. Yet there was no car supplied for assessment the year toyota won it. Only opel/ford/toyota had cars on trial.


  • #178
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    flazio wrote: »
    Just to throw it out, are the Octavias that the PSNI use any good? Would they be worth a look at for the South?



    From what I can see the PSNI has updated their fleet. New Astra and Mondeo Estates all round. Im sure they haven't got rid of all their old vehicles but I haven't seen any in my area for a while.


  • #179
    POGAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    Skoda was being tested for new tender in driving school recently


  • #180
    Mr Simpson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Yeah, I'd heard there were problems deciding whether or not the DSG gearbox was manual or automatic when they were testing it!


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  • #181
    BluesAndThrees
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭BluesAndThrees


    Isn't the new rescue copter beautiful? Looks really well and capable


  • #182
    belacqua_
    Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭belacqua_


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    From what I can see the PSNI has updated their fleet. New Astra and Mondeo Estates all round. Im sure they haven't got rid of all their old vehicles but I haven't seen any in my area for a while.

    The vast majority of those new Fords are Focus estates. I saw a nice looking, brand spanking new Astra estate with low profile lightbar up your neck of the woods, Gooner, at the NW200. Smart looking car. Worth pointing out that all these new PSNI cars are white rather than silver/grey.


  • #183
    Mister Jingles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    Would be nice to see BMW's but only for Traffic Corp in my opinion. Even there small engines would be considered powerful these day and would be a bit pointless having them at your average city station.


  • #184
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Mister Jingles wrote: »
    Would be nice to see BMW's but only for Traffic Corp in my opinion. Even there small engines would be considered powerful these day and would be a bit pointless having them at your average city station.

    You are right, I must say that ARU/ex CAB marked BMW jeep does look the business, you would expect to see an English reg on it.
    I agree re TC, how about as suburban district A1 type cars, that are capable of getting from A to B rapidly.

    Also it was not that long ago when I suggested a pan European type standard police car, similar to what they appear to be doing with Ambulances. I am just thinking of economies of scale for Police forces when ordering vehicles.


  • #185
    Mister Jingles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    kub wrote: »
    You are right, I must say that ARU/ex CAB marked BMW jeep does look the business, you would expect to see an English reg on it.
    I agree re TC, how about as suburban district A1 type cars, that are capable of getting from A to B rapidly.

    Also it was not that long ago when I suggested a pan European type standard police car, similar to what they appear to be doing with Ambulances. I am just thinking of economies of scale for Police forces when ordering vehicles.

    A lot of manufactures today are making small turbocharged petrol engines. These are would be the solution I'd reckon. VW/Skoda have a 1.8 turbo petrol with impressive figures, would suit regular units down to the ground and possibly even TC as well and Ford have brought out an even more powerful engine for the Focus and Mondeo thats only 1.6.

    However I do think that diesel is more suited to TC for cost reasons. While BMW's would look good I still think there too flashy for police work.

    As a opinion I think that Traffic should be issued with 530d's (contradiction i know) and as above with other units Skoda/Ford.


  • #186
    Atlantis50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Atlantis50


    Saw a BMW Garda 4x4 a few times outside Watercourse Rd station in Cork last month. Think it was traffic corps.


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  • #187
    Mr Simpson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Atlantis50 wrote: »
    Saw a BMW Garda 4x4 a few times outside Watercourse Rd station in Cork last month. Think it was traffic corps.

    AFAIK it's RSU, was seized by CAB.


  • #188
    Atlantis50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Atlantis50


    mmcn90 wrote: »
    AFAIK it's RSU, was seized by CAB.

    Yep it is the RSU/ASU, found it on Google images:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/6997405700/

    Not sure of copyright issues so just posting the link.


  • #189
    d3exile
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭d3exile


    Mister Jingles wrote: »
    Would be nice to see BMW's but only for Traffic Corp in my opinion. Even there small engines would be considered powerful these day and would be a bit pointless having them at your average city station.

    What on earth would TC want high powered engines for?

    You don't need a big car to sit on your ass all day drinking tea and pretending to do checkpoints :):)


  • #190
    POGAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    d3exile wrote: »
    Mister Jingles wrote: »
    Would be nice to see BMW's but only for Traffic Corp in my opinion. Even there small engines would be considered powerful these day and would be a bit pointless having them at your average city station.

    What on earth would TC want high powered engines for?

    You don't need a big car to sit on your ass all day drinking tea and pretending to do checkpoints :):)

    This going start normal war between the regular/ compol/ traffic


  • #191
    Mister Jingles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    POGAN wrote: »
    This going start normal war between the regular/ compol/ traffic

    Im staying out of this now :pac:


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  • #192
    miju
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    d3exile wrote: »
    Sorry kub edited my post above to answer your q bout the BMWs... Could be subject to Chinese whispers or pure BS of course but source is pretty reliable

    chinese whispers ;)


  • #193
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    J o e wrote: »
    Last time I was on this thread is was very strictly no-discussion... seems to have changed! :P The new aero-medical chopper in Galway today...

    7261940170_933b391886_c.jpg

    7261948544_436da3e388_c.jpg

    This is the discussion thread, not the photo thread :P


  • #194
    joeKel73
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    Yeah I copped that and deleted the post and reposted in the correct thread! You must have quoted it just before I did! ;)


  • #195
    searescue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭searescue


    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/7261948544_436da3e388_c.jpg

    Love this picture

    "Back away Mike, you're grand!"


  • #196
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    belacqua_ wrote: »
    The vast majority of those new Fords are Focus estates. I saw a nice looking, brand spanking new Astra estate with low profile lightbar up your neck of the woods, Gooner, at the NW200. Smart looking car. Worth pointing out that all these new PSNI cars are white rather than silver/grey.

    Focus estates, they were really nice, yes, saw the Astra at the NW200 also, very low profile light bar. Virtually invisible. It was a sweet looking car.


  • #197
    [Deleted User]
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    Is that helicopter generating a lot of heat, or is there just a strange blur added to the image behind it?


  • #198
    d3exile
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭d3exile


    KKV wrote: »
    Is that helicopter generating a lot of heat, or is there just a strange blur added to the image behind it?

    All the hot air coming from the army lads ;)


    ...Exhaust fumes I'm guessing?


  • #199
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is that helicopter generating a lot of heat, or is there just a strange blur added to the image behind it?

    :)Helicopters have jet engines:)
    :eek:Jet Engines have exhausts:eek:
    :rolleyes:exhaust gases are hot.:rolleyes:
    :(They can burn you.:(


  • #200
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    goldie fish wrote: »
    :)Helicopters have jet engines:)
    :eek:Jet Engines have exhausts:eek:
    :rolleyes:exhaust gases are hot.:rolleyes:
    :(They can burn you.:(


    I don't really know anything about helicopters, to be honest, but I've photographed the Garda helicopter landing and taking off, and I've seen numerous photos of the Coast Guard one doing the same, but I've never seen such a blur/haze created by it/them?! :confused::eek:


  • #201
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    You haven't been looking then.


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