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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Boom.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Going through these threads as fast as a Brendan Rodgers perv glance:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    daithijjj wrote: »
    There's more to the game than just the goals for West Ham, he has been good for them in causing general mayhem against opposition centre backs and people like Nolan feeding off that. He has also been great for them when defending corners for example. There's a reason they were chanting "sign him up" at the end of the season.

    I've no doubt he contributed a certain amount, I'm just saying that to me 7 goals, 4 assists and defending some corners doesn't warrant a pay increase to 100k a week. If West Ham fans think they're getting a good deal, they're welcome to their opinion. I personally think it's madness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Twoandahalfmen


    Hope your man from shaktar turns out to be good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    So benitez or Brendan?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Delighted. I've waited a long, long time for a first post.

    This is a seminal moment in my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,870 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Leeeeeeerooooooooy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    New thread open whoop whoop . When can we have the net spend argument ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    Vanolder wrote: »
    Delighted. I've waited a long, long time for a first post.

    This is a seminal moment in my life.

    Awkward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,570 ✭✭✭mormank


    I've no doubt he contributed a certain amount, I'm just saying that to me 7 goals, 4 assists and defending some corners doesn't warrant a pay increase to 100k a week. If West Ham fans think they're getting a good deal, they're welcome to their opinion. I personally think it's madness.

    Whether or not it warrants a pay rise isn't really the question. It's not his current owners offering the new contract. He is clearly just chancing his arm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I predict Andy will still be sh*te by the time the next thread comes around.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭livinginkorea


    Any new transfer news?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    Awkward.

    Even more awkward. Did not spot the first post. Sorry.:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    Could we not have a nice pic/gif to kick things off,
    It's Sunday after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,342 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

    i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

    Mickey may have to do on that score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    Here you go hidalgo !!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    mormank wrote: »
    Whether or not it warrants a pay rise isn't really the question. It's not his current owners offering the new contract. He is clearly just chancing his arm.

    I think you took that post out of context. I was referring to daihijjjs previous post where he was saying that Carroll's payrise to 100k a week was warranted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    SlickRic wrote: »
    i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

    i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

    Mickey may have to do on that score.

    You'd wonder if the Suarez money is being spent already, waiting till it comes in would lead to prices for potential targets inflated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭YouTookMyName


    Net Spend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    Arse biscuits.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭El Inho


    shiney!


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    SlickRic wrote: »
    i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

    i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

    Mickey may have to do on that score.

    If we get any kind of a marquee signing that hasn't been mentioned yet, it will only be as a replacement for Suarez. If we do lose him then hopefully we will bring in another striker. Well and all bringing in Mkhitaryan, Aspas and even Alberto, if we lose Suarez we are still short up front (assuming Carroll has no part to play). Sturridge has done fairly well so far, but we need more/better if Suarez leaves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,342 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    i'm saying I'd like a marquee signing purely because I'm assuming Suarez is gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,403 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    SlickRic wrote: »
    i'm saying I'd like a marquee signing purely because I'm assuming Suarez is gone.

    The way he's conducting himself in the media there will be some choice words when he gets back to melwood.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    SlickRic wrote: »
    i'm saying I'd like a marquee signing purely because I'm assuming Suarez is gone.

    On the money side, and this is without other potentials like Skrtel, Reina, Coates, etc, if Suarez goes and we get those we are heavily linked with, business looks like this roughly:

    Out: Suarez £40m (if he goes I think it'll be for around this amount)
    Skrtel £10m
    Reina £12m
    Coates £4m
    Total: £66m

    In: Aspas £8m
    Alberto £6m
    Mkhitaryan £20m
    Toure Free
    Ilori £4m
    Mingolet £10m
    Centre Back £20m
    Total £68m

    I've included some other possible outgoings as well if we get the incoming players, and without any other business we are pretty much breakeven. There may be a capacity to spend another £15m on someone I reckon, especially if the likes of Downing goes for 6-8m as well. Chances are as well that if the above happens, along with Carra out, the wages will be a decent chunk lower as well. One way or another though, I can't see all the rumoured inclings happening without Suarez leaving. If we take his fee out, and even include Downing out as well, that would still be a £30m+ outlay which I can't see being sanctioned, even with all the extra revenue.

    Edit: After all that, I forgot about Carroll as money in probably. With that it makes the other signings possible without losing Suarez I guess, but I would rate him very unlikely to remain, with only no one will to pony up the cash as the only reason he will still be there at which time he will backtrack somewhat I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Have we signed the Armenian?


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Vanolder wrote: »
    Have we signed the Armenian?

    I don't think many signings are sealed at this time on a Sunday night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭gafferino


    SlickRic wrote: »
    i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

    i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

    Mickey may have to do on that score.

    Nothing done yet bar Toure.

    I agree though there seems to be a serious intent to get it done early. I'd expect 2-3 more in the nex 3 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭YouTookMyName


    Suarez has already given an interview that he's being victimized by the Spanish players who won't let him have the ball


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,870 ✭✭✭✭klose


    gafferino wrote: »
    Nothing done yet bar Toure.

    I agree though there seems to be a serious intent to get it done early. I'd expect 2-3 more in the nex 3 weeks.

    Technically toure isint officially signed yet either, his and aspas deals are in place but cant officially become an lfc player till july 1st i believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,760 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Add 15m for Carroll to incoming money as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.

    It's drifting a good bit so.

    Were 13/8 two weeks ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.

    Pretty small odds, considering Suarez is almost certain to go. And we could have a new keeper and CB.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    The odds on Liverpool ever doing anything are always the least in touch with reality

    I don't mean that in the sense that top 4 is unrealistic, but in the sense that when it comes to Liverpool, too many back with their hearts, not their heads


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,870 ✭✭✭✭klose


    I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.

    Didnt some guy pit 25k e/w on us to finish top 4 last season?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭El Inho


    So what happens if Suarez doesn't come back? (i mean that he comes back and is sold, not just refusing to return)

    In hindsight, does anyone think the bite on Ivanovic was to get himself banned for the opening of next season in order to push through a move? It's a horrid thought, but one I wouldn't put past him.

    Considering the contract he is under, and the performances he has put in, to accept anything less that what we got for Torres would be ludicrous.

    I'm all for not keeping someone who wants out, but at the same time, he is our asset whether it be in the market or on the pitch, and either or we need to benefit greatly from him.

    Should he not move, just what kind of sanctions will he receive for his actions thus far in the media? I presume its safe to take some of the media coverage as accurate? I don't understand why he would go to the media like this, and stil have the anfield massive saying that they haven't heard any of this? It just doesn't add up. While I understand it could be likened to having a job interview on the sly while working for another company, but still..it just all seems a little odd..

    I can't for the life of me work it out.

    Also, I do not believe Reina is going anywhere. After Gerrard and Agger he is the third captain. This is being confused by the apparent developments in a deal with Mingolet. Isn't it possible that we just want to finally have healthy rivalry for the number one spot? United have this with Lindegaard being a keeper you wouldn't be afraid to start in a big game. Spurs have this, and to a degree Chelsea, as Turnbull is a fantastic supporting keeper.

    I think there are going to be a few shocks and surprises during this window, but they might not all be as bad for LFC as the majority might think. Suarez to stay, Reina to stay, and for us to strengthen with a few players who unfortunately will be considered coups. The sad thing is we are depending on our history to get such players. A club of our stature is literally just that. A club with stature which is dwindling every year with new competitors challenging to be a notch above us.

    This summer, if we can keep Suarez and Reina and get some of these coup signings it really has to work.

    Finally, I wish people would stop considering Toure as a bad piece of business. We just lost carra. A man with vast experience on and off the pitch and with that a huge amount of leadership has left the dressing room. Toure has captained at the highest level and this is what we need back in the dressing room. A wise head on shoulders to marshall the young ones coming up through the ranks, allowing the experienced peak players to concentrate on playing. Toure will get games, but this will be limited by Agger being fit and presumably a new cb replacing Skrtel. Coates might just be kept on to play along side Toure in the cups and to gain experience from him there. The big problem is now having no europa to blood these players.

    I don't know if these is a rant of more just the stream of consciousness which goes on in my head regarding LFC.

    Some players we've been linked with I've never heard of, but they seem to be steps in the right direction from others assessments. There is of course now the reason to air cautious optimism. This year has to be the big push. What worries me now is that even in the best case scenario we are going to be weakened by the loss of Suarez and what is looking like Sturridge too for the opener. Borini has talent, but hitting the ground running this year is more important than ever...

    Anyway, thats just my post after not posting in quite some time. Boom.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    He bit ivanovic thinking we would sack him.

    Club stood by him, now its plan b and not so suttle!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    The club can deny it...but given how little he has featured in the promotion of the new jersey they are most likely well aware of his desires.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    40 posts and nobody has said it?
    Our year.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Knex. wrote: »
    Add 15m for Carroll to incoming money as well.

    Damn.

    :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭gafferino


    klose wrote: »
    Technically toure isint officially signed yet either, his and aspas deals are in place but cant officially become an lfc player till july 1st i believe

    Well I think toure is the only one that's a done deal and waiting for 1st of July. Aspas basically done but some FA red tape holding that up at the moment.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Great free kick goal from Suarez.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    Please don't go Luis :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Mickalus


    Here is more on the news that Sky Sports sources understand Liverpool are holding talks over a potential £9million deal for Sunderland goalkeeper Simon Mignolet. It is believed the Belgium international will not sign a new contract at the Stadium of Light and wants to leave in order to boost his 2014 World Cup ambitions.

    -- That was on Sky Sports transfer feed. You'd hardly think Mignolet would be coming to play second fiddle to Reina based on that.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Getting the ins sorted before the outs this window it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    5starpool wrote: »
    Getting the ins sorted before the outs this window it seems.

    Its better than Andy Carroll mk II situation I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭jenno86


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Great free kick goal from Suarez.

    He shouldn't go to Real....'Ronnie' won't let him take them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭McSasquatch


    jenno86 wrote: »
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    :(:(:(

    What's the latest on Luis Alberto? I think Marca were saying it looks like a foregone conclusion he'll be playing for us next season. But I don't know how much trust to put into a Marca story even if it doesn't involve Madrid.


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