Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

G.K.

Once more we start anew.

Previous Thread.

Vanolder

Boom.

Amirani

Going through these threads as fast as a Brendan Rodgers perv glance:

cunnifferous

daithijjj wrote: »

There's more to the game than just the goals for West Ham, he has been good for them in causing general mayhem against opposition centre backs and people like Nolan feeding off that. He has also been great for them when defending corners for example. There's a reason they were chanting "sign him up" at the end of the season.

I've no doubt he contributed a certain amount, I'm just saying that to me 7 goals, 4 assists and defending some corners doesn't warrant a pay increase to 100k a week. If West Ham fans think they're getting a good deal, they're welcome to their opinion. I personally think it's madness.

Twoandahalfmen

Hope your man from shaktar turns out to be good.

michael999999

So benitez or Brendan?

Vanolder

Delighted. I've waited a long, long time for a first post.

This is a seminal moment in my life.

klose

Leeeeeeerooooooooy

smileyj1987

New thread open whoop whoop . When can we have the net spend argument ?

Kerrigooney

Vanolder wrote: »

Delighted. I've waited a long, long time for a first post.

This is a seminal moment in my life.

Awkward.

mormank

cunnifferous wrote: »

I've no doubt he contributed a certain amount, I'm just saying that to me 7 goals, 4 assists and defending some corners doesn't warrant a pay increase to 100k a week. If West Ham fans think they're getting a good deal, they're welcome to their opinion. I personally think it's madness.

Whether or not it warrants a pay rise isn't really the question. It's not his current owners offering the new contract. He is clearly just chancing his arm.

Turtyturd

I predict Andy will still be sh*te by the time the next thread comes around.

livinginkorea

Any new transfer news?

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Awkward.

Even more awkward. Did not spot the first post. Sorry.:o

Hidalgo

Could we not have a nice pic/gif to kick things off,
It's Sunday after all.

SlickRic

i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

Mickey may have to do on that score.

smileyj1987

Here you go hidalgo !!!

cunnifferous

mormank wrote: »

Whether or not it warrants a pay rise isn't really the question. It's not his current owners offering the new contract. He is clearly just chancing his arm.

I think you took that post out of context. I was referring to daihijjjs previous post where he was saying that Carroll's payrise to 100k a week was warranted.

Hidalgo

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

Mickey may have to do on that score.

You'd wonder if the Suarez money is being spent already, waiting till it comes in would lead to prices for potential targets inflated.

YouTookMyName

Net Spend.

Kerrigooney

Arse biscuits.

El Inho

shiney!

5starpool

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

Mickey may have to do on that score.

If we get any kind of a marquee signing that hasn't been mentioned yet, it will only be as a replacement for Suarez. If we do lose him then hopefully we will bring in another striker. Well and all bringing in Mkhitaryan, Aspas and even Alberto, if we lose Suarez we are still short up front (assuming Carroll has no part to play). Sturridge has done fairly well so far, but we need more/better if Suarez leaves.

SlickRic

i'm saying I'd like a marquee signing purely because I'm assuming Suarez is gone.

Vicxas

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm saying I'd like a marquee signing purely because I'm assuming Suarez is gone.

The way he's conducting himself in the media there will be some choice words when he gets back to melwood.

5starpool

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm saying I'd like a marquee signing purely because I'm assuming Suarez is gone.

On the money side, and this is without other potentials like Skrtel, Reina, Coates, etc, if Suarez goes and we get those we are heavily linked with, business looks like this roughly:

Out: Suarez £40m (if he goes I think it'll be for around this amount)
Skrtel £10m
Reina £12m
Coates £4m
Total: £66m

In: Aspas £8m
Alberto £6m
Mkhitaryan £20m
Toure Free
Ilori £4m
Mingolet £10m
Centre Back £20m
Total £68m

I've included some other possible outgoings as well if we get the incoming players, and without any other business we are pretty much breakeven. There may be a capacity to spend another £15m on someone I reckon, especially if the likes of Downing goes for 6-8m as well. Chances are as well that if the above happens, along with Carra out, the wages will be a decent chunk lower as well. One way or another though, I can't see all the rumoured inclings happening without Suarez leaving. If we take his fee out, and even include Downing out as well, that would still be a £30m+ outlay which I can't see being sanctioned, even with all the extra revenue.

Edit: After all that, I forgot about Carroll as money in probably. With that it makes the other signings possible without losing Suarez I guess, but I would rate him very unlikely to remain, with only no one will to pony up the cash as the only reason he will still be there at which time he will backtrack somewhat I'd say.

Vanolder

Have we signed the Armenian?

5starpool

Vanolder wrote: »

Have we signed the Armenian?

I don't think many signings are sealed at this time on a Sunday night.

gafferino

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm impressed with all the early shopping we seem to be doing - mainly with the fact we seem to be getting it done quickly.

i'd like one proper marquee signing though. just to get a real jolt of excitement into the start of next season. wishful thinking I know.

Mickey may have to do on that score.

Nothing done yet bar Toure.

I agree though there seems to be a serious intent to get it done early. I'd expect 2-3 more in the nex 3 weeks.

YouTookMyName

Suarez has already given an interview that he's being victimized by the Spanish players who won't let him have the ball

klose

gafferino wrote: »

Nothing done yet bar Toure.

I agree though there seems to be a serious intent to get it done early. I'd expect 2-3 more in the nex 3 weeks.

Technically toure isint officially signed yet either, his and aspas deals are in place but cant officially become an lfc player till july 1st i believe

Francie Barrett

I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.

Knex*

Add 15m for Carroll to incoming money as well.

djPSB

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.

It's drifting a good bit so.

Were 13/8 two weeks ago.

michael999999

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.

Pretty small odds, considering Suarez is almost certain to go. And we could have a new keeper and CB.

LiamoSail

The odds on Liverpool ever doing anything are always the least in touch with reality

I don't mean that in the sense that top 4 is unrealistic, but in the sense that when it comes to Liverpool, too many back with their hearts, not their heads

klose

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I see we are 5/2 with the bookies to make top 4 next season. Interesting.

Didnt some guy pit 25k e/w on us to finish top 4 last season?

El Inho

So what happens if Suarez doesn't come back? (i mean that he comes back and is sold, not just refusing to return)

In hindsight, does anyone think the bite on Ivanovic was to get himself banned for the opening of next season in order to push through a move? It's a horrid thought, but one I wouldn't put past him.

Considering the contract he is under, and the performances he has put in, to accept anything less that what we got for Torres would be ludicrous.

I'm all for not keeping someone who wants out, but at the same time, he is our asset whether it be in the market or on the pitch, and either or we need to benefit greatly from him.

Should he not move, just what kind of sanctions will he receive for his actions thus far in the media? I presume its safe to take some of the media coverage as accurate? I don't understand why he would go to the media like this, and stil have the anfield massive saying that they haven't heard any of this? It just doesn't add up. While I understand it could be likened to having a job interview on the sly while working for another company, but still..it just all seems a little odd..

I can't for the life of me work it out.

Also, I do not believe Reina is going anywhere. After Gerrard and Agger he is the third captain. This is being confused by the apparent developments in a deal with Mingolet. Isn't it possible that we just want to finally have healthy rivalry for the number one spot? United have this with Lindegaard being a keeper you wouldn't be afraid to start in a big game. Spurs have this, and to a degree Chelsea, as Turnbull is a fantastic supporting keeper.

I think there are going to be a few shocks and surprises during this window, but they might not all be as bad for LFC as the majority might think. Suarez to stay, Reina to stay, and for us to strengthen with a few players who unfortunately will be considered coups. The sad thing is we are depending on our history to get such players. A club of our stature is literally just that. A club with stature which is dwindling every year with new competitors challenging to be a notch above us.

This summer, if we can keep Suarez and Reina and get some of these coup signings it really has to work.

Finally, I wish people would stop considering Toure as a bad piece of business. We just lost carra. A man with vast experience on and off the pitch and with that a huge amount of leadership has left the dressing room. Toure has captained at the highest level and this is what we need back in the dressing room. A wise head on shoulders to marshall the young ones coming up through the ranks, allowing the experienced peak players to concentrate on playing. Toure will get games, but this will be limited by Agger being fit and presumably a new cb replacing Skrtel. Coates might just be kept on to play along side Toure in the cups and to gain experience from him there. The big problem is now having no europa to blood these players.

I don't know if these is a rant of more just the stream of consciousness which goes on in my head regarding LFC.

Some players we've been linked with I've never heard of, but they seem to be steps in the right direction from others assessments. There is of course now the reason to air cautious optimism. This year has to be the big push. What worries me now is that even in the best case scenario we are going to be weakened by the loss of Suarez and what is looking like Sturridge too for the opener. Borini has talent, but hitting the ground running this year is more important than ever...

Anyway, thats just my post after not posting in quite some time. Boom.

michael999999

He bit ivanovic thinking we would sack him.

Club stood by him, now its plan b and not so suttle!

Turtyturd

The club can deny it...but given how little he has featured in the promotion of the new jersey they are most likely well aware of his desires.

Super-Rush

40 posts and nobody has said it?

Our year.

5starpool

Knex. wrote: »

Add 15m for Carroll to incoming money as well.

Damn.

gafferino

klose wrote: »

Technically toure isint officially signed yet either, his and aspas deals are in place but cant officially become an lfc player till july 1st i believe

Well I think toure is the only one that's a done deal and waiting for 1st of July. Aspas basically done but some FA red tape holding that up at the moment.

Amirani

Great free kick goal from Suarez.

Fowler87

Please don't go Luis

Mickalus

Here is more on the news that Sky Sports sources understand Liverpool are holding talks over a potential £9million deal for Sunderland goalkeeper Simon Mignolet. It is believed the Belgium international will not sign a new contract at the Stadium of Light and wants to leave in order to boost his 2014 World Cup ambitions.

-- That was on Sky Sports transfer feed. You'd hardly think Mignolet would be coming to play second fiddle to Reina based on that.

5starpool

Getting the ins sorted before the outs this window it seems.

Knex*

5starpool wrote: »

Getting the ins sorted before the outs this window it seems.

Its better than Andy Carroll mk II situation I suppose.

jenno86

Turtyturd

NiallSparky wrote: »

Great free kick goal from Suarez.

He shouldn't go to Real....'Ronnie' won't let him take them.

McSasquatch

jenno86 wrote: »

:(:(

What's the latest on Luis Alberto? I think Marca were saying it looks like a foregone conclusion he'll be playing for us next season. But I don't know how much trust to put into a Marca story even if it doesn't involve Madrid.