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* Religion * Predictions, discussion and aftermath (1 thread please)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    I think that they might bring up some expected stuff as 40 markers but they could bring up unexpected stuff as the other part of the question...they're like that :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


    Violafy wrote: »
    I can't decide whether or not to study what's come up in the last few years or not. I've got a lot to do so need to prioritise. Do you think it's likely they'd repeat questions when the course is still so new?

    yep they have repeated stuff before like they've had myths on twice i think and search for spiritual in society like art and music or books has been on twice too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Davidmator


    Hi,

    I was just wondering what is the structure for an essay in the leaving cert religion exam. I have no idea how to structure an answer. My teacher has a different structure to other subjects like history. Totally confused! :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    intro..basically backround info and refre to question ask

    middle, the information you know, refer back to question after each point you make

    ending, round it up, refer to question..maybe give a personal view.. like i think that the sophists had a great idea or something liek that XD

    QUESTION:

    how long do we spend on an 80 mark, 40 mark and twenty mark question?
    im so worried abut this exam... esp with the lack of info that i think most people use for this course... ugh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    R.E.R

    thats what I do for religion


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


    for timing i'm going to spend 35 minutes on each section and the rest of the time is for thinking and reading the paper...
    what does everyone think will be come up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 keeirs


    anyone doing the Section H book? Its like an orangey book about the bible basically.. I dont have a clue what to learn from that!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    keeirs wrote: »
    anyone doing the Section H book? Its like an orangey book about the bible basically.. I dont have a clue what to learn from that!!

    Thank God I'm not doing that , I wouldnt know where to start


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 CaoimheKeee


    xclw wrote: »
    religion is so hard to know with, our class do
    Sec A, B, C and I
    but in the mocks one of my friends answered Sec D even though we've never done it before and got higher marks in that than anything else

    when answering questions try make links between sections because they seemingly love that, and also my teacher said that if you've time write down anything that you think may be relevant to the question because they won't mark you down it willl only bring up your grade.
    he said repeat the question in each paragraph too to try convince the examiner you are answering the question.
    I'm lucky i had a brilliant teacher who wrote books on religion and all but he never once gave us tests not even for christmas so do you think we studied it at all?

    somebodyy from Loreto..!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Geo10


    xaoifsx wrote: »

    QUESTION:

    how long do we spend on an 80 mark, 40 mark and twenty mark question?
    im so worried abut this exam... esp with the lack of info that i think most people use for this course... ugh

    80 Mark: 2 and a half pages
    40 Mark: 1 and a quarter to half page
    20 Mark: No more than 3/4 of a page
    All together each section should be about 2 and a half pages.
    If you're writing is small (like me) you'd probably find this very difficult to do in 35 mins each so you could write less. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


    think the jewish understanding of the kingdom of god is due to come up, its never been up before.
    know the sophists, socrates, aristotle, plato or anselm, aquinas - all the philosophers they nearly always come up for some q in section a


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    Davidmator wrote: »
    Hi,

    I was just wondering what is the structure for an essay in the leaving cert religion exam. I have no idea how to structure an answer. My teacher has a different structure to other subjects like history. Totally confused! :confused:

    Basically like this:

    Opening- describe and outline the topic; if it's christology, outline what christology means and give an example...if its impact of roman rule on palestine, give a small outline of what the roman empire was (autocratic etc.) and give the historical background

    Middle- you need several points of information for this..around each point should be composed a paragraph as you should expand and waffle and gave examples of such information. If the question asks you something specific, remember to answer it (i.e to what extent...why..) and link in the title at least one or two times a page (you don't have to put in the entire title, just plop in keywords from it here and there)

    Concluding- just wrap it up by doing a tiny summary of the information and remember to link in the title at the end; they love that..plus, try and make it symmetrical with the opening paragraph FOR EXTRA POINTS!

    Basically the exam is like a Resident Evil boss...you just have to hit the mofo over and over in the weakpoints (by linking the title in here and there and putting info in at the right intervals and use paragraphs) as opposed to just making a boring blob of information and a half-hearted ending...remember that the examiners like organisation as well as substance..a lot of the marks go for paragraphing, linking in the title and also they really like when you reference other parts of the course too when applicable.

    Believe me, it helps :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 keeirs


    xclw wrote: »
    think the jewish understanding of the kingdom of god is due to come up, its never been up before!
    ↲It came up in 2005 but yeah its possible!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    I think we're needed in the atheism forum .
    People trying to make out like humanism is like some religious stewardship


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    God did it. For every answer. Even the long questions, because God is not discriminatory.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Davidmator


    Eggy Baby! wrote: »
    Basically like this:

    Opening- describe and outline the topic; if it's christology, outline what christology means and give an example...if its impact of roman rule on palestine, give a small outline of what the roman empire was (autocratic etc.) and give the historical background

    Middle- you need several points of information for this..around each point should be composed a paragraph as you should expand and waffle and gave examples of such information. If the question asks you something specific, remember to answer it (i.e to what extent...why..) and link in the title at least one or two times a page (you don't have to put in the entire title, just plop in keywords from it here and there)

    Concluding- just wrap it up by doing a tiny summary of the information and remember to link in the title at the end; they love that..plus, try and make it symmetrical with the opening paragraph FOR EXTRA POINTS!

    Basically the exam is like a Resident Evil boss...you just have to hit the mofo over and over in the weakpoints (by linking the title in here and there and putting info in at the right intervals and use paragraphs) as opposed to just making a boring blob of information and a half-hearted ending...remember that the examiners like organisation as well as substance..a lot of the marks go for paragraphing, linking in the title and also they really like when you reference other parts of the course too when applicable.

    Believe me, it helps :)



    Cheers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Pottermore


    Section A is ment to be like Plato and the sophists ( search for meaning and values)

    Religion and science..... Galileo or Newton maybe take a look at the geneitics debate

    World religions ... comparing stuff and like african religions

    MDM .... Moral conflict, moral theoryist like Lawerence kohlberg

    Just predictions thats been floating around the internet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Pottermore


    Section A is ment to be ... Plato and the sophists and Key moments

    MDM ... moral conflict common good and moral theorists like sigmund frued

    WR just look over what you studied
    and

    Religion and science ..... Galileo Newton and Genetics debate maybe

    thats just what i gathered from the internet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Framble


    Ugh did music today and nearly all my friends are finished............ so jealous, do not want to study :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 dannyirishman


    Pottermore wrote: »
    Section A is ment to be ... Plato and the sophists and Key moments

    Section A:
    Option A: Concept of God - Christianity/Islam/Judaism, Hinduism/Buddhism
    Option B: Aquinas and the other guy. (won't be answering this one myself)

    Section B: Christology 40 marks,

    Morality section: Trends - 2 key achievements, 2 key difficulties

    Section I: Newgrange/pilgrimage Patterns of change (Bah'ai faith)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Cardor


    My guesses for Religion

    Section A

    Question 1
    -Outline one of Plato's main Beliefs
    -Outline the place of the sophists in ancient Greece
    Question 2
    -Explain why symbol emerged in the formulation of responses to the questions of life and in each case give examples
    -Describe briefly the emergence of monotheism and explain the concept of God in each of the Monotheistic Religions

    Section B
    - Outline one way in which Roman rule impacted on the political, social and religious systems at the time of Jesus
    - Briefly outline the responses of Zealots, Sadducees, Pharisees and Essene's to roman rule

    Section C
    - Challenges to tradition in each of the major world religions
    - Cults and sects

    Section I
    - Pre-Christian Ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Uh F*** it .I'm screwed for this exam . Night all !


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


    ahhhh i'm so not prepared at all :O
    may try get up early and do a bit!
    good luck everyone :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    xclw wrote: »
    ahhhh i'm so not prepared at all :O
    may try get up early and do a bit!
    good luck everyone :D

    Good luck? I need prayers or miracles lol ....
    Last exam though Thank God


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


    i have insomnia, think i'll watch passion of christ or something.
    anyway my predictions:

    Sec A
    -Anselm, Newton, Aquinas (haven't been up since 05 most likely thing)
    -Socrates, Plato, Sophists
    -r/ship with transcendant
    - agnosticism or symbols

    Sec B
    - Christian Unity
    - Jewish Understanding of Kingdom of God
    -Christology

    Sec C
    - Vision of Salvation
    - Primal Religions

    Sec I
    -Land Sacredness
    -Pre Christian Ireland

    probably dead wrong but sure :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Duda17


    It is unbelievable how much you have to learn for religion you cannot leave anything out and i dont know half of it. If a question on the proofs of god come up i know what my answer will be: if i pass this exam that is proof that there is a god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Cardor


    I think gods of the Ancients will come up.. they've never been up!


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 dannyirishman


    That was one tough exam!

    a) Sophists question was easy marks.

    b) Asking TWO Myths just isn't fair. Unfortunately I didn't think about Allegory of the Cave and did Children of Lir and 'An Chearrbhach Mac Caba' instead. (It's still a myth)
    The question was to compare them in how questions of the meaning of life are evident in each.

    Section B with the 2 modern writers of christianity today and how their writings about christ influence us.....What the hell? The Da Vinci Code???

    Section D: a) Civil Law and how Common good and rights interlink:
    Did Smoking ban, no problems really
    b)Discuss Roles of Conscience and Moral freedom in the devolopment of a morally mature person.
    Again no problems.

    Section I was fine: a) Two trends with regard to young people
    B) Influence of one on development of Christianity in Ireland:
    Religion, spirituality and

    1:Land - Did introduction with Yahweh and then plantations in ireland.
    2:Monasticism
    3:Reforms
    4:The Enlightenment



    After leaving out Section B part b which is 40 marks I just have to face it I won't be getting an A unless they make it 20 marks. I really hope I'm not the only one who had to battle with this paper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 sketchz700


    i thought the paper was fine
    unit 1-sophists and prometheus and epic of gilgamesh
    unit 2-chiara lubich and jurgen moltmann and then the other question i did smoking ban which was fine
    unit 3-biology and psychology on genders, i forget the other part of that Q but i was happy over all answered about 2pages per 40marks.. nothing to tricky anyway.. just wait and see now :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 SleazeMerchant


    What a load of waffle


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  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


    Sec A - Sophists - grand
    Myths - had to remember what i learned for the mocks hadn't looked over them since and only had time to do one so there goes 20 marks :/
    Sec B - Resurrection - not what i was hoping for, again ran outta time and ended throwing random words down
    Christology/ writers - grand i did karl rahner and Gustave gutierrez
    Sec C - The awkward moment when your a christian and you realise you knew more about judaism than christianity :/
    Sec I - LOvely! best section by a mile :D

    overall fairly happy, probably won't get the mark i want but sure
    IM FREEEEEEEEE


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭FTS


    Here, story with people saying that was easy? :confused:
    I laughed coming out of it, because I knew nothing on that paper apart from section A. FML. Fail. D3 if Im lucky.
    & I actually studied, the course is just ridiculous you never know whats gonna come up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Bogger_92


    Thought that was a nice paper, as sheer luck would have it I revised 70% of the topics the night before! :) looks like the old prayer worked! Hoping for a B1 anyway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Davidmator


    Well that could have gone better!


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭acermaple


    sooo how did everyone find it??


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭xaoifsx


    i found part a beautfiul.
    i found christianity horrible. i made christian writers up..... i didnt learn any?!?!? what the hell like??
    rest was alright
    sorry... im currently enjoying my end of leaving cert too much.......... .kdsfra vwooo!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Davidmator wrote: »
    Well that could have gone better!

    Same although regardless of the fact we had a week to study the thing but likelyhood is i would have procrastinated all the same to be fair .

    I think I would have put in more effort if it were last week instead of the week gap


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Davidmator


    Same although regardless of the fact we had a week to study the thing but likelyhood is i would have procrastinated all the same to be fair .

    I think I would have put in more effort if it were last week instead of the week gap

    Same. I had no interest in studying....specially when everyone else was out celebrating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Davidmator wrote: »
    Same. I had no interest in studying....specially when everyone else was out celebrating

    exactly it has more to do with the date of the exam


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  • Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭Violafy


    I died a little inside when I saw the Christian writers/Christology part... I knew the names of two writers but that was literally it, so had an interesting time inventing exactly how they understood Jesus.
    Apart from that, the questions were alright, although WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE TIME? It's absolutely ridiculous. I knew topics such as the gender understandings and common good well, but literally didn't have enough time to put everything down.

    Still........ WE'RE FREE. I can't believe it. Freedom is all the sweeter for us because we've had to wait so long. :D *sleeps for the next week*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Violafy wrote: »
    because we've had to wait so long. :D *sleeps for the next week*
    at least you can sleep and wake ! I'll probably end up in a coma once my brain crashes tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    The exam was easy, but there was way too much to write... two myths for 40 marks? On the mock there was a question; one myth for 40 marks! Then the two writers, they are christologists btw....i ran out of time and wasn't able to get the second part of section E done and barely even started it but ill probs still get an A, i fricking kicked ass in everything else, it was all so easy and more or less everything that was predicted came up...FREEDOM

    PLUS I could have easily finished that section E part 2 with 100% marks....i probably got 90-100% marks in everything else i did fully and my project deserves 90-100% :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭xclw


    i got an A1 :) thank you Jesus ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Framble


    Lol B3... my lowest and I knew it would be. It was a shame by the time we got to the 24th I just couldn't care less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    I got an A2 and I left out Section E....i.e a quarter of the written exam...that basically means I got 95+ per cent in everything I did....thank you Jesus!


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