Over 1,200 licensed guns stolen in five years

Rew · 11-01-2009 12:52pm

eroo wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/raid-gun-haul-likely-to-end-up-in-hands-of-feud-gangs-1597815.html

Granted it is not an epidemic, it is still 31 handguns in the possession of scrotes. 31 too many imo.

Everyone can agree with that. BTW 31 guns not handguns, its likely that delear only had 2 or 3 handguns. Dealers generally only bring them in to order so stocks are low.

eroo · 11-01-2009 6:09pm

According to an article in the Sunday Indo, Gardai think the ''Continuity'' IRA were responsible for the theft, and now those weapons may be used in armed robberies to raise 'funds'

Rew · 11-01-2009 6:52pm

Very worrying to see these guys active:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-fear-gun-thefts-linked-to-ira-renegades-1598256.html

eroo · 11-01-2009 7:27pm

Imo, whatever security measures are in place regarding firearms dealers needs to be revised because if the likes of those guys get their hands on more legally held weapons, it may be an unarmed Garda who comes up against them...and loses.

diverdriver · 12-01-2009 1:24am

For all the debate the government is going ahead and going to ban handguns and probably some rifles. Of course it won't make the slightest difference to gun crime. When they took the guns off everyone in the 70s in case the IRA got hold of them. That didn't work either.

It's just another case of a lame duck government trying to seen to do something. Blaming law abiding citizens who happen to own guns for something perpetrated by gangsters is yet another low. But what do you expect from those idiots?

The truth of the matter is that it won't save a single life or stop a gun falling into the hands of scumbags.

In fact it's always been relatively easy to your hands on illegal guns if you know the right people. I remember being horrified when I heard of some kids who 'rented' a handgun for the day for a bit of fun. I don't suppose that has changed much. If you want a gun you go to the people who have them, drug dealers. I'm sure they are more than happy to supply you, no worries about licences etc.

In any case most stolen guns are shotguns and that won't change. People are very careless about shotguns. They won't be banned because even this government wouldn't go that far.

sig226 · 12-01-2009 8:10pm

When they took the guns off everyone in the 70s in case the IRA got hold of them

The funny thing is that the North has over 10,000 licensed handguns.

TheNog · 12-01-2009 8:14pm

Rew wrote: »

Very worrying to see these guys active:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-fear-gun-thefts-linked-to-ira-renegades-1598256.html

These guys will always but active as long there is money to be made from smuggling, drugs, pirate dvds, racketeering etc.

If anyone really thinks they have Ulster or Catholic people in mind are foolish. They only want to line their own pockets

eroo · 12-01-2009 8:44pm

They are not terrorists, but drug dealing criminals!

Anyways, lets just hope and pray that these guns are recovered and those responsible are arrested.

hk · 14-01-2009 5:29pm

diverdriver wrote: »

For all the debate the government is going ahead and going to ban handguns and probably some rifles. Of course it won't make the slightest difference to gun crime. When they took the guns off everyone in the 70s in case the IRA got hold of them. That didn't work either.

It's just another case of a lame duck government trying to seen to do something. Blaming law abiding citizens who happen to own guns for something perpetrated by gangsters is yet another low. But what do you expect from those idiots?

The truth of the matter is that it won't save a single life or stop a gun falling into the hands of scumbags.

In fact it's always been relatively easy to your hands on illegal guns if you know the right people. I remember being horrified when I heard of some kids who 'rented' a handgun for the day for a bit of fun. I don't suppose that has changed much. If you want a gun you go to the people who have them, drug dealers. I'm sure they are more than happy to supply you, no worries about licences etc.

In any case most stolen guns are shotguns and that won't change. People are very careless about shotguns. They won't be banned because even this government wouldn't go that far.

here here,
there were figures released reciently as to the break down of the 31 handguns stolen over the 4 year period, there were 4 centerfire/revolvers listed and the figures were stated to also contain, blank firing handguns, museum peices and air pistols. The important one here is museum pieces in my opinion, a few years back there were was a large theft of 'handguns' from kilmainham, which i think probably makes up the bulk of those figures, if anybody is interested in investigating further!!

Eru · 15-01-2009 5:06am

hk wrote: »

here here,
there were figures released reciently as to the break down of the 31 handguns stolen over the 4 year period, there were 4 centerfire/revolvers listed and the figures were stated to also contain, blank firing handguns, museum peices and air pistols. The important one here is museum pieces in my opinion, a few years back there were was a large theft of 'handguns' from kilmainham, which i think probably makes up the bulk of those figures, if anybody is interested in investigating further!!

Well your the one making the statement so how about you investigate and report back?

lostexpectation · 15-01-2009 7:38am

heres a link to the summary of story from the mirror in 2001 3 handguns stolen
3 Webley revolvers

EASTER 1916 GUNS STOLEN.(News)

Article from:
The Mirror (London, England)
Article date:
March 16, 2001 | Copyright informationCOPYRIGHT 2001 MGN LTD. This material is published under license from the publisher through the Gale Group, Farmington Hills, Michigan. All inquiries regarding rights should be directed to the Gale Group. (Hide copyright information)

Byline: DAIRMAID MacDERMOTT

THIEVES who stole three priceless guns from Dublin's Kilmainham Gaol museum were yesterday urged to return the national treasures.

The three Webley revolvers, dating from the ...

can't find any other references to it.

Rew · 20-01-2009 12:08am

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/detective-has-his-gun-stolen-form-home-1606627.html

Detective has his gun stolen form home

Monday January 19 2009

Gardai are this evening hunting a burglar who stole a handgun from a detective’s home.

Officers are urgently trying to trace the thief, who broke into the garda’s home in Co Meath in what they believe was an “opportunistic raid”.

The criminal stole the Sig semi-automatic pistol and 30 rounds of ammo. The incident occurred a day before a confidential garda document was reportedly left in a Dublin coffee shop.

It related to an ongoing probe into organised crime and detailed a covert surveillance operation.

A major criminal is also named in the file. He is thought to have played a significant role in recent raids on cash-in-transit vans and is also a suspected tiger kidnapper.

A large-scale inquiry is under way today in an attempt to recover the stolen gun. It is thought to be standard issue for members of the National Bureau of Criminal Investigation, which investigates murders and serious offences.

Each garda detective is issued with a personal weapon that is their responsibility. It is normally stored in a secure station locker but can take them home.

The Sig is one of the most common weapons among criminals and has been used in several murders. However, officers do not believe the thief knew he was breaking into the home of a detective garda and said the theft was "opportunistic".

Officials are remaining tight-lipped about how the sensitive file was in the public domain and found in the cafe last Thursday.

Details of a major probe codenamed Operation Tarmac were also contained in the document. It was left in a busy central Dublin coffee shop near a Luas stop before being returned to Harcourt Square Garda Station by a member of the public.

k.doyle@herald.ie

CLADA · 20-01-2009 12:42am

Rew wrote: »

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/detective-has-his-gun-stolen-form-home-1606627.html

At this point you're beginning to get tiresome, there is a shooting thread where this is currently being discussed.

Posting this here is tantamount to trolling and by not adding your own comment gives the impression you are gloating.

If you are worried about the future of your sport you need to start convincing the people who make and amend the laws of the land, coming on here and pissing off the regular guards who post on this forum is not going to further that cause.

metman · 20-01-2009 12:45am

CLADA wrote: »

At this point you're beginning to get tiresome, there is a shooting thread where this is currently being discussed.

Posting this here is tantamount to trolling and by not adding your own comment gives the impression you are gloating.

If you are worried about the future of your sport you need to start convincing the people who make and amend the laws of the land, coming on here and pissing off the regular guards who post on this forum is not going to further that cause.

I read this and thought exactly the same, yawn. However I couldn't be bothered to reply as I lost the will to live on this thread a long time ago.

Rew · 20-01-2009 1:10am

Not at all just thought it may be of interest my only comment would be that I hope they give some sort of allowance to these guy for a small safe. Everything has been discussed to death here as I've already said. I didnt comment on the shooting forum eather as it happens.

Over 1,200 licensed guns stolen in five years

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