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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]US Ambassador praises Shannon’s investment role (Clare Herald)[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]The newly appointed US Ambassador to Ireland Kevin O’Malley has praised Shannon Airport for its key role in supporting the continuing and strong US multi-national presence in the West of Ireland.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Speaking on an official visit to the airport, where he met members of its executive and board, Ambassador O’Malley said that having a vibrant airport on the western seaboard with direct links to the US is critical for shared prosperity between the region and multi-nationals.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]He said, “Literally all of the businesses, the US multi-nationals and those from other countries that are situated in this region, need an airport that can service their connectivity requirements.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]These are large companies doing a great job in Ireland, employing Irish people and participating in helping both sides of the Atlantic share in a great prosperity. Shannon helps sustain that through its transatlantic services as without them there would be no direct access from the US into the West or South coast of Ireland.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]. . . Anything I can do to increase investment and trade between our two countries, I will do. That is very important to me.” :cool:[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]************************************************************[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Nice endorsement of Shannon's transatlantic services for US businesses that operate in the western and southern parts of the country by a Missouri man whose grandparents hailed from Westport in Mayo.[/FONT]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭Masala


    from the above article:
    The airport had been losing millions, but last year we turned in a profit of €163m
    .

    ... can that be right???


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Masala wrote: »
    from the above article:
    The airport had been losing millions, but last year we turned in a profit of €163m
    ... can that be right???

    €163m is clearly a typo, €163k would have been about right.

    See previous posts 500 + 501.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    JP McManus confirms return of golf Pro-Am (Limerick Leader)

    Last time round Shannon Airport saw a significant increase in business jet traffic during the 2010 JP McManus Invitational Pro-Am at Adare. (Shannon Aviation)

    jetstrafficc.jpg

    Should be a good opportunity to promote Shannon’s full US preclearance facility for private aircraft.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Why does ba1 and ba3 always fly up towards Dublin then down to Shannon rather than follow the other London flights that pass over Wexford? Is it in case it runs low on fuel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Why does ba1 and ba3 always fly up towards Dublin then down to Shannon rather than follow the other London flights that pass over Wexford? Is it in case it runs low on fuel?

    No. Depends on preferential routings of the day as assigned by Eurocontrol etc etc. ATC fees also differ depending on the route. It seems to route over Strumble then Wexford a fair bit too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    No. Depends on preferential routings of the day as assigned by Eurocontrol etc etc. ATC fees also differ depending on the route. It seems to route over Strumble then Wexford a fair bit too.

    I have never seen ba1 or ba3 ever come to Shannon the Wexford way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I have never seen ba1 or ba3 ever come to Shannon the Wexford way.

    Last Sunday for example...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Last Sunday for example...

    I have never seen that. Unusual.

    Still at 2 flights a day and most of them go by Dublin is still unusual


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭irishbloke77


    Not unusual at all. Because it's from London city, routing up north and overhead Dublin to shannon, avoids any delays/slots that would be created it they went straight from London city via Wexford to Shannon, as that would take them via heathrow and the western approaches, and busy airspace.

    Likewise, shannon to stansted, routinely routes over dublin and down to London from the north, avoiding the same busy airspace around Heathrow and to the west of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Not unusual at all. Because it's from London city, routing up north and overhead Dublin to shannon, avoids any delays/slots that would be created it they went straight from London city via Wexford to Shannon, as that would take them via heathrow and the western approaches, and busy airspace.

    Likewise, shannon to stansted, routinely routes over dublin and down to London from the north, avoiding the same busy airspace around Heathrow and to the west of it.

    Its not unusual? If less than 10% of the time it is hardly not unsusal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭irishbloke77


    I meant it's not unusual to fly via dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭irishbloke77


    Between them, they ba1 and ba3, have flown over Wexford 3 times in the last 7 days, and over dublin 8 times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Shannon Free Zone Master Plan (Shannon Commercial Properties)

    Blue = New Hanger Development Commencing October 2014
    Green = Airside/ Landside Connections
    Orange = Proposed ‘Global Distribution & Ware Housing Centre’
    Yellow = Site of Commercial Office Development Commencing 2015

    See previous posts 692, 702, 703, 704.

    15650435338_bec374386b_c.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Aer Lingus SNN-USA are not available for booking.
    SNN-BOS The fare compare works, but once you select the flight it is listed as full.
    SNN-JFK "No low fares were found, up to 14 days either side of your travel dates."

    All other Transatlantic flights from dublin and short-haul from shannon are still bookable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Still not bookable, very strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,759 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Shannon Free Zone Master Plan (Shannon Commercial Properties)

    Blue = New Hanger Development Commencing October 2014
    Green = Airside/ Landside Connections
    Orange = Proposed ‘Global Distribution & Ware Housing Centre’
    Yellow = Site of Commercial Office Development Commencing 2015

    See previous posts 692, 702, 703, 704.

    15650435338_bec374386b_c.jpg

    I assume this is if the EC allow it to happen. They are going to be investigating it.
    Still not bookable, very strange.

    Would expect them back online in a few days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    I assume this is if the EC allow it to happen. They are going to be investigating it.
    My understanding of the issue is that a scheme of accelerated capital allowances was made in the in Budget 2012 to kickstart the development of an aviation services centre that would engage in aircraft maintenance, dismantling of aircraft for parts and converting aircraft into freighters, in addition to establishing an international aviation training centre.

    It seems that the European Commission took two years to veto this capital allowance where the cost of developing an aviation maintenance hanger would be written off over seven years, compared to usual term of 25 years.

    It means that the Irish Government will have to renegotiate with the EU regarding an amendment.

    See previous post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »



    Would expect them back online in a few days.

    They are back now, why would they of been removed?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    A British Airways (BA215) on route from London Heathrow to Boston has turned back to Shannon this evening (19:00).

    **** Update ****

    Boston-bound flight diverts back to Shannon due to “suspected technical problem” (The Journal)

    “The flight diverted to Shannon purely as a precaution, due to a suspected technical problem,” a BA spokesperson said.

    “Engineers have checked the aircraft and there is no problem.”

    It’s since taken off again.

    **** Update ****

    Image from Clare Herald

    ba215-snn-211114.gif?w=1500


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    The A319 based at Shannon seems to be having a lot of trouble lately. I have seen it being replaced by an a320 three times in the past 30days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    EI-DVM (The aer lingus retro lively plane) will be landing in Shannon in about an hour 3:35-3:45 and taking off again at around 5:25.

    Can anyone get a picture?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    A British Airways (BA48) on route from Seattle to London Heathrow has diverted to Shannon.

    It is the very same aircraft (Reg. G-VIIS) that diverted on Friday.

    According to the Clare Herald, just 12 months ago, on November 14th 2013, the same jet also made an emergency landing at Shannon after the crew reported smoke on board.

    **** Update ****

    Same jet diverts to Shannon twice in three days (Clare Herald)

    The pilot requested permission to divert to Shannon after reporting a problem with an engine which they confirmed they had shut down.

    ba48-snn-231114.gif?w=1500


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    The A319 lasted a total of 1 flight today before having to bring the a320 back. What is going on with that plane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Growler!!!


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The A319 lasted a total of 1 flight today before having to bring the a320 back. What is going on with that plane?

    Does it go tech each time or is it replaced due to pax numbers? The 320 has 30 more seats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Growler!!! wrote: »
    Does it go tech each time or is it replaced due to pax numbers? The 320 has more seats.

    A flight from LHR-SNN was cancelled today and they are often delayed lately so I'd say it goes to tech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    A flight from LHR-SNN was cancelled today and they are often delayed lately so I'd say it goes to tech.

    Engine shut down.

    http://avherald.com/h?article=47db1b6dhttp://avherald.com/h?article=47db1b6dhttp://


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    tippman1 wrote: »

    Thanks for the article.
    So the aircraft was out of service until this morning, but what happened today that it was out of service again?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Quoted from AV:

    Incident: Aer Lingus A319 at London on Nov 21st 2014, engine shut down in flight
    By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Nov 23rd 2014 13:56Z, last updated Sunday, Nov 23rd 2014 15:12Z

    An Aer Lingus Airbus A319-100, registration EI-EPR performing flight EI-386 from Shannon (Ireland) to London Heathrow,EN (UK), was on final approach to Heathrow's runway 09L already descending on the glideslope at about 19:00L (19:00Z) when the crew declared PAN PAN PAN reporting an engine (CFM56) problem advising they might not be able to vacate the runway, about 20 seconds later the crew reported an actual engine failure and shut down. The aircraft continued for a safe landing on runway 09L, the next approach trailing the A319 by about 3nm was instructed to go around. The A319 was able to vacate the runway following inspection by emergency services.

    The approach instructed to go around landed on runway 09L about 15 minutes later.

    At the time of the approach there were no reports of birds in the vicinity of the aerodrome.

    The occurrence aircraft resumed service on Nov 23rd about 40 hours after landing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Profits dip 10pc to $45m at aircraft engine leasing firm (Independent)

    Pre-tax profits at a Shannon-based aircraft engine leasing firm fell 10% last year to $45.54m (€36.75m).

    Newly-filed accounts for French/US-owned Shannon Engine Support Ltd show the firm’s revenues fell 16% from $124.75m to $104.5m in the year to the end of December, 2013.

    The General Electric-part-owned firm last year paid a dividend of $40m, the accounts also show.

    The firm employs 24 people. Last year they shared a pay pot including pensions of $3.9m or on average $166,000 each. The pay represented a 56% hike on the average $106,375 paid to each staff member in pay and pension in 2012.

    According to the firm’s directors’ report: “Overall turnover decreased by 16% primarily driven by the release of deferred revenue for a portfolio acquisition in 2012”.

    “Activity pertaining to aircraft engine leasing increased by 8%,” it added.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    (Clare FM) Shannon Airport is hoping for an additional flight boost from Turkish Airlines.

    Representatives of the company have been meeting with local Airport officials and also addressed members of Shannon Chamber of Commerce at their President's lunch which was attended by the Taoiseach yesterday.

    The CEO of Turkish Airlines told those gathered that they're actively looking at the possibility of passenger or cargo flights to Shannon in the future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Shannon Group

    Shannon Airport
    Shannon International Aviation Services Centre
    Shannon Commercial Properties
    Shannon Heritage

    Two new web sites for IASC and Commercial Properties.

    The Group’s own site is still in a work-in-progress state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    https://www.facebook.com/Shannon.Airport.Official?fref=nf

    According to Shannon airports Facebook page new developments will be made in the Christmas schedule soon.

    Santa Flights again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    (Limerick Leader) Regeneron, the New York company who is constructing a $300m bio-pharmaceutical plant in Raheen, seems to be generating some business for Shannon.

    Daniel Van Plew, senior vice president and general manager of industrial operations said “We’re up to about a dozen inbound flight and hotel stays a week, numbers that surely will increase as the project progresses.

    I reckon if we pencil in the outbound trips too, we could be talking about 1,000 NY passengers for Shannon during the set-up phase year?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Austrian Airlines (AUA89) from Vienna to New York (Newark) diverted to Shannon today.

    **** Update ****

    Jet diverts to Shannon with heart attack patient (Clare Herald)

    Austrian Airlines flight OS-89 was en route from Vienna to Newark, New Jersey, and was about 45 minutes into it’s oceanic crossing having flown over Ireland at around midday.

    While the Boeing 767-300 jet was about 1,000 kilometres north west of Shannon, the crew advised controllers that they had a male passenger on board who had suffered what they believed to be a heart attack.

    The flight touched down at Shannon at 1.50pm and was met at the terminal by HSE National Ambulance Service paramedics and a doctor.

    ***************************************************************************************


    Open Skies (BOS3) from Paris to New York (Newark) diverted to Shannon today.

    Newark (KEWR) is currently experiencing:
    • all inbound flights being held at their origin until wedneday at 15:00 EST due to an equipment outage
    • inbound flights delayed at their origin an average of 3 hours 18 minutes due to low clouds
    • arrival delays for airborne aircraft of 46 minutes to 1 hour (and increasing) due to snow and ice
    New York must be experiencing bad weather as the British Airways (BA1) LCY - SNN - JFK has also been diverted to BGR.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Delta restarts Shannon - New York service (Aviation Tribune)

    Delta will once again be offering nonstop daily flights between Shannon Airport and New York John F. Kennedy International Airport for the 2015 summer season.

    Starting May 2, 2015, the U.S. airline has scheduled a Boeing 757-200 aircraft with 164 seats on the route, which is operated in conjunction with Delta’s joint venture partners Air France-KLM and Alitalia.

    Delta’s Shannon services feature fully flat-bed seats and a range of dining options in the BusinessElite cabin. Customers flying in Economy Comfort, Delta’s premium economy service, benefit from up to four additional inches of legroom and 50 percent more recline than Delta’s standard international Economy class seats, as well as priority boarding.

    Throughout the aircraft, all passengers will have access to on-demand in-flight entertainment. Wi-Fi is also being rolled out across Delta’s international fleet with completion due in 2016.

    ************************************************************

    This is good news as the service will be starting two weeks earlier than this years summer season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Delta restarts Shannon - New York service (Aviation Tribune)

    Delta will once again be offering nonstop daily flights between Shannon Airport and New York John F. Kennedy International Airport for the 2015 summer season.

    Starting May 2, 2015, the U.S. airline has scheduled a Boeing 757-200 aircraft with 164 seats on the route, which is operated in conjunction with Delta’s joint venture partners Air France-KLM and Alitalia.

    Delta’s Shannon services feature fully flat-bed seats and a range of dining options in the BusinessElite cabin. Customers flying in Economy Comfort, Delta’s premium economy service, benefit from up to four additional inches of legroom and 50 percent more recline than Delta’s standard international Economy class seats, as well as priority boarding.

    Throughout the aircraft, all passengers will have access to on-demand in-flight entertainment. Wi-Fi is also being rolled out across Delta’s international fleet with completion due in 2016.

    ************************************************************

    This is good news as the service will be starting two weeks earlier than this years summer season.

    Certainly is. I think in 2012 it also started may 2nd, although I may be wrong. This article seems to come late aswell, as I noted the delta flight starting from may 2nd about 2 months ago:P

    Will it end later or the same as last year I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    No united airlines flight today (Thurs 27th)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    No united airlines flight today (Thurs 27th)

    Thanksgiving in the US, most things in the States are cancelled. My parents were on that flight last week and they said it was full.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    The latest rumour is that all Aer Lingus Regional flights from Shannon will cease operation on January 5th 2015.

    Can anyone confirm this (or otherwise)?

    A self inflicted wound if true.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The latest rumour is that all Aer Lingus Regional flights from Shannon will cease operation on January 5th 2015.

    Can anyone confirm this (or otherwise)?

    A self inflicted wound if true.

    That rumour's been around for the last 2 weeks http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/airline-reviews-shannon-operations-297589.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,759 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9



    Flights were taken off sale today just a day after EIR got the Donegal PSO which will be operated by the SNN based ATR 42.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer



    No, that report relates to a general review of operations. The comment I made above regarding a total cessation of services at Shannon from January 5th is a new rumour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    No, that report relates to a general review of operations. The comment I made above regarding a total cessation of services at Shannon from January 5th is a new rumour.

    A review of services in this context though really means they were just considering ending the flights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    This shows the incompetance of Aer Lingus Regional. What was the sense in pulling all routes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Here again the Aer Lingus Regional figures, this time updated to October.

    Note, the Manchester figures can’t be broken down as it includes some Ryanair flights.

    329788.png


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    This shows the incompetance of Aer Lingus Regional. What was the sense in pulling all routes?

    It's got nothing to do with incompetence. Stobart simply think they can make more profit by putting the aircraft on different routes. It's unfortunate for Shannon, but that's the world of commercial aviation for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Growler!!!


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    This shows the incompetance of Aer Lingus Regional. What was the sense in pulling all routes?

    Not incompetence at all, the base was loss making. Comparing a flight from dublin and a flight from shannon to let's say Manchester. The aircraft was in the air for 30 or more minutes compared to the dublin one.

    To cover this they had to charge more which was passed onto the customer. Load factors were quite low and I presume yeild was too.

    The little airline from the West is long gone, loss making routes are axed in favour of profitable ones and quite quickly too. Long may it continue.

    Remember from the 5th of January there will be an equal amount of bases in Ireland and the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Growler!!! wrote: »
    Not incompetence at all, the base was loss making. Comparing a flight from dublin and a flight from shannon to let's say Manchester. The aircraft was in the air for 30 or more minutes compared to the dublin one.

    To cover this they had to charge more which was passed onto the customer. Load factors were quite low and I presume yeild was too.

    The little airline from the West is long gone, loss making routes are axed in favour of profitable ones and quite quickly too. Long may it continue.

    Remember from the 5th of January there will be an equal amount of bases in Ireland and the UK.
    Okay my comment was inaccurate, but how do you know the routes were loss making?


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