Games people think are awesome which you think suck

humanji · 21-06-2011 1:33pm

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

minecraft..now that sucks

I CAST THEE OUT, SATAN!!!!!

Canis Lupus · 21-06-2011 1:45pm

humanji wrote: »

I CAST THEE OUT, SATAN!!!!!

I think this sums up the nonstop fun that is minecraft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dma8aDvLlYM

Grayditch · 21-06-2011 2:00pm

Haha. Exhilarating stuff.

funky penguin · 21-06-2011 3:02pm

Ha! I don't like minecraft, but that pig with a saddle is hilarious.

humanji · 21-06-2011 4:06pm

How can anyone not like making funny signs? :P

Sisko · 21-06-2011 7:42pm

Magill wrote: »

fact !

Love how that gets people foaming at the mouth

Seamus Aran wrote: »

Surely whether or not someone enjoys a game is the only criteria it can be judged by? What else is a game good for?

There is a hell of a lot more to judging the quality of something then that. Its never been simply pure enjoyment. There are plenty of movies out there that 'more people would enjoy' versus what are considered masterpieces. Just because someone enjoys something, does not make it a masterpiece and just because someone does not enjoy something - does not alter that things state from being a masterpiece.

What is of high quality, or rather what is 'good' and what is 'bad' is not as a lot of people would like to say it is... 100% subjective.

There is a reason why the top 10 charts in music are rarely considered the highest standard of music in human history.

There is a benchmark for these things.

NeoKubrick wrote: »

"MGS4 is not a very good game" and "MGS4 is simply and utterly mediocre" are claims, not facts. The sum total of your argument to support both claims has been that the game is "badly outdated" which is generalized non-specific gibberish you're dressing-up as "critical analysis".

Nope, its a fact and anyone who understands gaming knows this and would not dispute it. I'm not here to give a critical analysis.

If I was to do MGS4 justice and lay out all the reasons why it is a mediocre game - as a game itself that is - I'd have to write a damn essay on the thing, which would be utterly pointless. Kojima himself could come out and state the games averageness and people would still proclaim it to be pure excellence.

Whether or not the game is a good game for MGS fans is a matter of opinion however.

Retr0gamer · 21-06-2011 7:51pm

Sisko wrote: »

Whether or not the game is a good game for MGS fans is a matter of opinion however.

I'm a MGS fan and it was the gaming equivalent of a kick to the nads.

Magill · 21-06-2011 8:07pm

Sisko wrote: »

Love how that gets people foaming at the mouth

There is a hell of a lot more to judging the quality of something then that. Its never been simply pure enjoyment. There are plenty of movies out there that 'more people would enjoy' versus what are considered masterpieces. Just because someone enjoys something, does not make it a masterpiece and just because someone does not enjoy something - does not alter that things state from being a masterpiece.

What is of high quality, or rather what is 'good' and what is 'bad' is not as a lot of people would like to say it is... 100% subjective.

There is a reason why the top 10 charts in music are rarely considered the highest standard of music in human history.

There is a benchmark for these things.

Nope, its a fact and anyone who understands gaming knows this and would not dispute it. I'm not here to give a critical analysis.

If I was to do MGS4 justice and lay out all the reasons why it is a mediocre game - as a game itself that is - I'd have to write a damn essay on the thing, which would be utterly pointless. Kojima himself could come out and state the games averageness and people would still proclaim it to be pure excellence.

Whether or not the game is a good game for MGS fans is a matter of opinion however.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

johnny_ultimate · 21-06-2011 9:50pm

Internet arguments:

User A: Long winded post explaining a point.

User B: One line response about how user A is wrong and/or an idiot.

User A: Refutes User B in equally long-winded manner.

User B: Posts sarcastic video / image.

User A: One line response about how user B is wrong and/or an idiot.

Mr. K · 21-06-2011 9:53pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Internet arguments:

User A: Long winded post explaining a point.

User B: One line response about how user A is wrong and/or an idiot.

User A: Refutes User B in equally long-winded manner.

User B: Posts sarcastic video / image.

User A: One line response about how user B is wrong and/or an idiot.

I disagree. With everything.

Retr0gamer · 21-06-2011 10:38pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Internet arguments:

User A: Long winded post explaining a point.

User B: One line response about how user A is wrong and/or an idiot.

User A: Refutes User B in equally long-winded manner.

User B: Posts sarcastic video / image.

User A: One line response about how user B is wrong and/or an idiot.

i_am_a_cat_with_a_human_body_your_argument_is_invalid.png

RolandIRL · 22-06-2011 12:43am

have to say Portal 2 didn't appeal to me. puzzles didn't have the same "how do you do that?" feeling as the first game. 10/15 mins on a puzzle and you were done. finished it in less than a day, which is surprising for me, cos i'm usually slow at games.

Grayditch · 22-06-2011 12:52am

whiteman19 wrote: »

finished it in less than a day,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWZM8UicVI

Haha. It ran at a nice pace for me, with some nice perplexers.

socky2011 · 22-06-2011 12:58am

whiteman19 wrote: »

have to say Portal 2 didn't appeal to me. puzzles didn't have the same "how do you do that?" feeling as the first game. 10/15 mins on a puzzle and you were done. finished it in less than a day, which is surprising for me, cos i'm usually slow at games.

so im not super smart then:(

krudler · 22-06-2011 1:14am

the only problem I had with Portal 2 were the non testing room bits, they were too easy, find wall thats slight shade of white and portal it, find another wall and portal that, solution becomes clear. the Cave Johnson voiceover parts were absolutely brilliant though made that whole section hilarious to play through. "Let us cut you open, stuff some science in you, hell you should be paying us for this!"

Seamus Aran · 22-06-2011 1:16am

Sisko wrote: »

There is a hell of a lot more to judging the quality of something then that. Its never been simply pure enjoyment. There are plenty of movies out there that 'more people would enjoy' versus what are considered masterpieces. Just because someone enjoys something, does not make it a masterpiece and just because someone does not enjoy something - does not alter that things state from being a masterpiece.

What is of high quality, or rather what is 'good' and what is 'bad' is not as a lot of people would like to say it is... 100% subjective.

There is a reason why the top 10 charts in music are rarely considered the highest standard of music in human history.

There is a benchmark for these things.

I don't think you understood my point. It doesn't matter if someone somewhere likes a game or not; what makes it good or bad is whether you enjoyed it. That's it. Nothing else counts.

There's no such thing as objectively superior mechanics, level design, graphics, audio, plot or whatever it is makes you like a game. If you find it inferior, then as far as you're concerned it is. Taste is absolutely subjective.

RolandIRL · 22-06-2011 1:30am

socky2011 wrote: »

so im not super smart then:(

would you feel better if i said i was an uber puzzle genius? :pac:

Grayditch wrote: »

Haha. It ran at a nice pace for me, with some nice perplexers.

at the video.

krudler wrote: »

the only problem I had with Portal 2 were the non testing room bits, they were too easy, find wall thats slight shade of white and portal it, find another wall and portal that, solution becomes clear. the Cave Johnson voiceover parts were absolutely brilliant though made that whole section hilarious to play through. "Let us cut you open, stuff some science in you, hell you should be paying us for this!"

agree that they made it too easy to see where you could place portals. they had those bar thingies that made it blatantly obvious where you could stick your portal.

loved the voice acting though. thought it was one of the redeeming qualities of the games

socky2011 · 22-06-2011 1:39am

whiteman19 wrote: »

would you feel better if i said i was an uber puzzle genius? :pac:

Jazzy · 22-06-2011 4:29am

Sisko wrote: »

Nope, its a fact and anyone who understands gaming knows this and would not dispute it. I'm not here to give a critical analysis.

If I was to do MGS4 justice and lay out all the reasons why it is a mediocre game - as a game itself that is - I'd have to write a damn essay on the thing, which would be utterly pointless. Kojima himself could come out and state the games averageness and people would still proclaim it to be pure excellence.

Whether or not the game is a good game for MGS fans is a matter of opinion however.

its that I thing that really shoots your argument in the foot on this thread as its titled "Games people think are awesome which you think suck"

as i say to ppl in HoN -GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

hooradiation · 22-06-2011 10:43am

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

minecraft..now that sucks

I can totally get behind this.
Well, maybe suck is a little too harsh, but the total lack of an actual 'game' part killed it for me.
The freedom is kinda liberating at first but with nothing to drive you building stuff and just exploring for explorings sake got boring.

Probably didn't help that all the mods that made the game better broke constantly due to Notch being incapable of releasing a patch without adding more bugs.
That said for a poorly coded cave simulator with the feature creep turned all the way up to 11 it was worth a fiver and gave me a few weeks worth of playing.

22-06-2011 10:47am

World of Warcraft. I think its crap , it reminds me of the free MMO's you get from Japan. I just dont get why people love it .

Oh and Halo

Mr.Saturn · 22-06-2011 11:45am

Star Wars: Rogue Leader on the Nintendo Gamecube. It's all over the place, frankly. Far prefer rail-shooters.

el dude · 22-06-2011 5:32pm

Can i choose a whole genre?

First Person Shooters.

Boring.

Mensch Maschine · 22-06-2011 6:40pm

fasty wrote: »

Anything from Rockstar really.

What are they trying to do with their games? They pour money into their development and try to introduce gritty stories with antihero main characters and forget to put actual character or plot development into the games.

Instead you get cutscene based conversations while you travel from A to B doing whatever, in between collecting herbs or cars that all control the same.

Stop trying to make games into movies or novels, developers. you don't have it in you! The convergence of media is a bad thing.

What???

Cutscene based conversations. What's wrong with them? What's wrong with blurring the boundaries between film & gaming? I hate to be watching cut scenes in GTA, listening to the likes of Ray Liotta, Samuel L. Jackson, James Woods, Ice-T, Shaun Ryder, Frank Vincent, Chris Penn, Burt Reynolds, Dennis Hopper, Peter Fonda, Gary Busey, Deborah Harry. Borrring. Stories in games suckz!1

"Travelling from A to B doing whatever" ??
You mean breaking in to Area 51, shooting your way through, hundreds of soldiers and security and then stealing a jetpack? Base jumping off the Hoover dam? Going out to sea to a large motorboat, killing all the security and stealing a helicopter and taking out enemies with the rockets? Or having to torch a whole load of marjauna plantations for before the cops arrive, and drive an old hippie van full of weed in to San Fransisco. Boorring.

Grayditch · 22-06-2011 6:45pm

That is what we call; "Rockstar-offended".

Mensch Maschine · 22-06-2011 6:51pm

I didn't even go near RDR or The Warriors, lol. A Game of a film!?

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2011 6:54pm

Mensch Maschine wrote: »

I didn't even go near RDR or The Warriors, lol. A Game of a film!?

Not a big fan of rockstars games but the Warriors was excellent.

I can see where people are coming from about rockstars games. I'm not mad about them either. The only ones I really love have been GTA3, Bully and the Warriors. Their games seem to be getting less sandboxy since GTA 4 whereas the far superior Saints Row 2 has been embracing the crazy stuff you can get up to in a sandbox. I like their games but I'd be hard pushed to say I love them.

krudler · 22-06-2011 6:59pm

I do like RDR, but its more for the setting than anything else, games need more western themed titles

Mensch Maschine · 22-06-2011 7:04pm

Iv wasn't my favourite, but San Andreas pushed the boundaries. Basing the theme of 90's South Central L.A. No other games really did that. Saints Row did the whole gang thing but in fictional city in modern times. I don't mind modern just that if you're going to do 'gangsta' South Central L.A. early 90's is where it's at.

Then having 3 cities, with each one having a unique feel and certain radio stations come on according to where you are. Having the original songs that rap guys sampled as well as the rap versions of different radio stations was a nice touch and then there's just all the humour for me which was definitely more ( i wont say intellectual) but very current to the time they satirised, like having Maccer & Paul who seemed be a parody of Shaun Ryder and Bez and Shaun Ryder did one of the voices for them.

That sort of the stuff. The layering of humour and cultural references laced throughout the game did it for me.

The Warriors was done really nicely. Been trying to get it for the PS2 lately. Have it for Xbox but with no Xbox and it's not backwards compatible on the 360

EmatoelDiablo · 22-06-2011 7:09pm

Bloody Nipples wrote: »

Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion.

Fallout gameplay is crap and Oblivion was like watching paint dry.

Take it Back! Eh....please?:rolleyes:

TerrorFirmer · 22-06-2011 7:35pm

I really don't get how anyone couldn't appreciate the masterpiece that is Fallout 3 and, to a certain extent, New Vegas. To be honest, there aren't many games out there that I consider crap despite universal acclaim, and those that I do, would be a matter of taste rather then believing the quality of the game was poor.

Though as a diehard FPS fan, I was really disappointed with Battlefield Bad Company and it's sequel, coming from Battlefield 2 on the PC with it's vast maps, 64 players, and armadas of vehicles, aircraft and ships, it seemed like such a step back, and I couldn't get into it at all. Wouldn't say it sucked, though.

I cannot stand Final Fantasy, Zelda, Fable et al. Zero tolerance.

bradlente · 22-06-2011 8:45pm

The penalties in the latest PES are the worst feature of any football game I've ever played.

Then games not awful but its disappointing imo

EmatoelDiablo · 22-06-2011 9:32pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I really don't get how anyone couldn't appreciate the masterpiece that is Fallout 3 and, to a certain extent, New Vegas. To be honest, there aren't many games out there that I consider crap despite universal acclaim, and those that I do, would be a matter of taste rather then believing the quality of the game was poor.

I agree completely! The games have so many opportunities and ways to play them. Plus: Headshots are amazing!

Fnz · 23-06-2011 12:29am

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I really don't get how anyone couldn't appreciate the masterpiece that is Fallout 3 and, to a certain extent, New Vegas.

I was pretty disappointed by Fallout 3.

I experienced bugs whilst playing on pc. Got bluescreen'd when I went into certain areas. At one point I saved some dude who was, supposedly being held hostage, despite there being no enemies in the area or any obstacles between him and freedom. Upon reloading the game, I discovered there should have been a multitude of powerful enemies in the area, and I was now in the middle of them.

The Pip-boy's charm does not excuse the awful user interface you have to endure.

I never liked the clunky character animation. and the way they frame the conversations draw extra attention to their ugly models.

I may have had a better experience had I chose different perks/skills, but I can only say that with the benefit of hindsight.

EmatoelDiablo · 23-06-2011 12:52am

Fnz wrote: »

I was pretty disappointed by Fallout 3.

This brings me back to the Minecraft Argument.
Aesthetics over interface and graphics. Sure java tends to crash or time out but we still love it? Fallout was riddled with bugs and glitches and may not be the most beautiful game in history, but stick past the first 3 hours and the rest is golden. The simplest things make this game what it is and why it is loved by many people. The Pulowski preservation shelter for example, each of them contain a slightly humorous event (A skeleton with a gun and magazine). Trailing through abandoned houses and sewers, hearing the yell of a raider or a feral ghoul, stumbling upon a super mutant encampment. The sheer variety and possibility make this much more than an average RPG. The 120+ Hours I have logged were not boring, no Siree.:cool:

Canis Lupus · 23-06-2011 11:07am

I also thought Fallout 3 was pretty boring. I just stopped playing it on day 3 and couldn't be bothered going back to it. I particularly hated VATS felt a bit too much like a console compromise and felt it was too much of a waste of bullets to not use it.

I also came to it later than most but it wasn't a particularly good looking game either.

EDIT: and yeah, the pip boy was a royal pain in the hole.

Awesome intro music mind you.

johnny_ultimate · 23-06-2011 12:24pm

I loved the atmosphere, the world, the music of Fallout 3. The Wasteland was a glorious place to explore.

Hated having to fight my way through it though. Just don't get VATS - it was just awkward, leaving something that should be in the control of the player up to under-the-hood stats. Yes, it is bloody and gory, but it's implementation just seemed awkward. Or the constant juggling of inventory in a bloomin' frustrating UI.

It's a good, perhaps great, game. It's just not perfect or beyond criticism.

Vicxas · 23-06-2011 1:03pm

I didnt see why people got so hot about Fallout, Oblivion was much better IMO...

jamesr1775 · 23-06-2011 1:25pm

Call of duty black ops for me anyway. The game is absolutely terrible and it pisses me off they got so many sales because of its predecessor Mw2.
killstreaks dont add to your killstreak for new ones was the single worst ideaabout the game. They did it to stop camping???? yea ****ing right!!!!!!!!!There is about 10 times as much camping in black ops then any other fps game in the industry. In every single game I was actually astonished of the lengths sad people went about getting kills to keep their killstreak (from hiding in bushes for 5-10 minutes till somebody walks by or how about boosting with friends:mad:)

Spuddy91 · 23-06-2011 1:40pm

Anything Halo just annoys me. I love other shooters but Halo really annoys me.

Retr0gamer · 23-06-2011 1:43pm

Vicxas wrote: »

I didnt see why people got so hot about Fallout, Oblivion was much better IMO...

I on the other hand couldn't stomach the setting of oblivion and found the more original setting of Fallout 3 far more appealing.

EmatoelDiablo · 23-06-2011 1:49pm

jamesr1775 wrote: »

Call of duty black ops for me anyway.

Oh yes. Oh yes indeed. My hatred for this game knows no bounds but so many people love it. I live in a place where "I play Xbox" means "CodBo Lahhhhhhdddd"
Kill me now.

Spuddy91 wrote: »

Anything Halo just annoys me. I love other shooters but Halo really annoys me.

Nothing beats a good game of Team Swat though

funky penguin · 23-06-2011 2:53pm

My poor brother missed out on Fallout because he couldn't hack the post-apocalyptic setting......he just got depressed.

johnny_ultimate · 23-06-2011 3:00pm

funky penguin wrote: »

My poor brother missed out on Fallout because he couldn't hack the post-apocalyptic setting......he just got depressed.

He should have levelled up his computer stats.

justsomebloke · 23-06-2011 3:02pm

jamesr1775 wrote: »

Call of duty black ops for me anyway. The game is absolutely terrible and it pisses me off they got so many sales because of its predecessor Mw2.
killstreaks dont add to your killstreak for new ones was the single worst ideaabout the game. They did it to stop camping???? yea ****ing right!!!!!!!!!There is about 10 times as much camping in black ops then any other fps game in the industry. In every single game I was actually astonished of the lengths sad people went about getting kills to keep their killstreak (from hiding in bushes for 5-10 minutes till somebody walks by or how about boosting with friends:mad:)

surely then it is not the game you hate but the people that play it?

jamesr1775 · 23-06-2011 3:07pm

Joe the Santa wrote: »

surely then it is not the game you hate but the people that play it?

yes but what has caused the people to start roasting marshmellows by their campfires?

Vicxas · 23-06-2011 3:21pm

I agree with james, the not contributing to killstreaks is kinda annoying and the lengths people go to to get 15 kills is amazing. Ive seen people hide for 3-5 minutes before someone ran past.

seraphimvc · 23-06-2011 3:36pm

Seamus Aran wrote: »

There's no such thing as objectively superior mechanics, level design, graphics, audio, plot or whatever it is makes you like a game. If you find it inferior, then as far as you're concerned it is. Taste is absolutely subjective.

there is when you compare the game with other games of the same genre:p while like or hate the plot/story is totally subjective tho.

saying you like or dislike a game is a matter of subjective, but you can still objectively tell the overall quality(mechanics, level design, graphics, audio) of the game is good or bad. many game reviewers fail at that.

OT:

to me almost all big titles FPS fail to impress me since doom3:pac: i dont particular like multiplayer (only do it when we taking break from the main game in LAN) so maybe thats the reason. nowadays most fps campaign take me ages to finish(i just stop after about 1 hour game play) except Portal series and the last few CoD from IW:pac:

bastados · 23-06-2011 3:50pm

Halo...utterly mindless..lacks creative direction and the gameplay hasnt changed in a decade....jumping fools.

anything by Treyarch really...servants of Activision.

EmatoelDiablo · 23-06-2011 4:19pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

He should have levelled up his computer stats.

Science actually

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