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Games people think are awesome which you think suck

  • 19-06-2011 12:13am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭


    Mass Effect 1 & 2, I'm still playing through 2 but one thing I will say is that both games are incredibly boring storywise, too heavy on plot details with cliched ideas, I really don't care for the minutiae of the genophage or the krogen who are yet another warrior race rip off. Also the combat is unchallenging and dull.

    Morrowind Oblivion, essentially incredibly boring and a lonely weird experience. Every cave looks the same, the npcs are odd looking and ugly, very little character development, uninspiring storyline about demons because they're so evil and scary etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption, Bioshock 1 + 2. All very over hyped. Just really don't appeal to me at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Elmidena


    Mass Effect, Oblivion, WoW, Brutal Legend, Bioshock 2, Street Fighters, GTA...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Gears of war
    Oblivion
    Mass effect 2
    Halo
    Call of duty modern warfare 2
    Gta 4: was enjoyable but way overated
    Metal gear solid 4: enjoyed it but worst in the series
    Red dead redemption
    Portal 2: didnt like the singleplayer , co op was good craic though but very short

    The beatles ,now i know what your thinking they are a band and you would be correct but there was the beatles rockband so i can say the beatles are overated :pac::pac: checkmate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Half Life 2. It didn't suck but for me was just a linear shooter with some uninteresting physics doodahs. I never even bothered completing it initially till a year or so later when I remembered it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭B0X


    Red Dead, I liked the gameplay but the story was dreadful I thought.

    "Oh no my family has been taken, I have to get them back!.. What's that? Of course I'll do all these pointless menial tasks for you, I dont have anything better to do"

    If this was the plot to a film it would be slated by critics.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    Call of duty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion.

    Fallout gameplay is crap and Oblivion was like watching paint dry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭iMuse


    Halo, Final fantasy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    Halo.

    A million times Halo. Everything about that game should be a standard set for "mediocre". Except the music, which is actually pretty nice. I hear the MP is good but only played it for about 10 mins.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,382 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    MGS4: Anyone that thought it had a good story and was a satisfying conclusion to the series is an idiot. Gameplay wasn't great either.

    Halo: Not a bad series but very overrated. It's decent, nothing more. Except Halo 2 which have terrible single player.

    Final Fantasy XII: It was like playing an MMO, a bad MMO except with the only thing that makes playing MMO's fun, the social elements. It was just boring and the battle system didn't work thanks to some bad balancing that meant every battle took forever and required you to run around in circles between battles to raise MP.

    Goldeneye (N64): It may have set a benchmark for console shooters and introduced some new elements to FPS games but play it now. Time has not been kind. Perfect Dark can be added here as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭Sl!mCharles


    B0X wrote: »
    Red Dead, I liked the gameplay but the story was dreadful I thought.

    "Oh no my family has been taken, I have to get them back!.. What's that? Of course I'll do all these pointless menial tasks for you, I dont have anything better to do"

    If this was the plot to a film it would be slated by critics.

    It's not a film though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭Fnz


    B0X wrote: »
    Red Dead, I liked the gameplay but the story was dreadful I thought.

    "Oh no my family has been taken, I have to get them back!.. What's that? Of course I'll do all these pointless menial tasks for you, I dont have anything better to do"

    If this was the plot to a film it would be slated by critics.

    Shawshank Redemption (the movie), I loved the story but the gameplay was non-existent.

    All I can do is cycle through subtitle and aspect ratio options, skip scenes and adjust the colour saturation. It's completely unrewarding with little in the way of player feedback.

    If this was a rhythm-action game, it would be slated by critics!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Elmidena


    Fnz wrote: »
    Shawshank Redemption (the movie), I loved the story but the gameplay was non-existent.

    All I can do is cycle through subtitle and aspect ratio options, skip scenes and adjust the colour saturation. It's completely unrewarding with little in the way of player feedback.

    If this was a rhythm-action game, it would be slated by critics!
    From the sounds of things, it seems you were in fact playing Heavy Rain. Now containing 100% less Morgan Freeman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭B0X


    It's not a film though.

    Well obviously :pac:

    What I was getting at is that games are moving past just being "Get the blue key to open the door and kill the bad guys". It's all about immersion now and having such huge plotholes should be unacceptable. You can't have your main character state in every cutscene that he is trying desperately to get his family back and then have him round up herds of cows. It breaks the illusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Notorioux


    Halo
    L.A Noire
    GTA IV
    Red Dead Redemption
    Mass Effect 1 & 2

    All these r feckin' BORING and OVERRATED...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭El Inho


    metal gear solid, halo, silent hill, resi...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Oblivion
    Gta4
    Mgs4
    Halo 3 - the only one I played. The last halo game too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Deadly Premonition - Anyone that thought it had a good story is an idiot. Gameplay is horrible aswel.

    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Meh.. I got bored of the GTA series after vice city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    I'm not going to mention any games that I hate here, because every time I hate a game, fast forward 6 months and I'll wind up loving said game and looking like a damn fool :(


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    All of the killzones.. They just bored the life outta me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    GTA IV................though most people I've met share the same sentiment towards it.

    Halo - I just don't understand what's so fantastic about this series. Incredibly ho-hum. Multiplayer was ok but I played so many better FPS games down the line.

    Fallout 3 and New Vegas - I really tried to like F3 but it was so drab, clunky and boring. NV was an improvement but I eventually couldn't play it anymore from sheer boredom and some game breaking glitches.

    Call Of Duty - MW1 blew me away, MW2 was more of the same, and BLOPS was a load of shìt. The single player on MW1 & 2 look great but the multiplayer doesn't appeal to me at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    COD - As said above MW1 was a breath of fresh air but after buying into the hype I got MW2 and struggled through to the Favela level before giving up. Tried the online that everyone was raving about and couldnt figure out what was good about it so quickly sold it. Didnt even bother with Black Ops

    GTA IV - More so critics that loved it than gamers, most people seem to share the opinion that its boring as hell. Took me 4 attempts before I made it to the end

    Halo - Didnt own the original xbox so never played Halo until a few years ago, thought it was all right so got the 2nd one, more of the same. Eventually got the 3rd and gave up half way through the story. Multiplayer was meh as well. Not got any of the newer ones but heard theyre more of the same

    Gears of War - Again I just never really got what was so great about it, run to the next area, take cover and shoot lots of things, repeat x 100. Never bothered finishing it so maybe a bit harsh but yeah, I got bored half way through

    AC Brotherhood - Just found it incredibly boring, far too easy with the various ways of getting instant kills, crossbow, gun, hold L1, etc. The map was awful as well with the cliffs meaning you spent half your time running around the base looking for a way up. The story has also gotten a bit ridiculous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Seamus Aran


    Okami.

    Every new area in the overworld and every room in every dungeon is introduced with a short cutscene pointing out the interesting feature, followed by a longer cutscene spelling out in writing exactly what to do with it. And all this, of course, punctuated by obnoxious screenwipes and loading screens. God forbid I should have to figure things out myself in an adventure game, eh?

    Oh, and the interminable cutscenes ****ting out the meandering waffles passed off as a plot. Yeah, I get it, Issun likes boobs. Wonderful. Can I play the game now? Evidently, no. Cheers, lads.

    Nice cel-shading, so yay for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Ass creed. All of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 BigEyeGuy


    Mass Effect 2.
    Being very careful, I only buy games that i know are going to be good and received good reviews.
    I looked almost everywhere and ME2 got only amazing reviews and
    Totally Rad Show recommended it, i thought it would be a good purchase.
    After playing a bit, i realized i was fooled. The slick media machine, paid reviews and blinded game journalists, could not expose the truth.
    ME2 is a ****ing piece of **** of a game, no gameplay, no strategy, mash special abilities, flaccid action, buggy game all around, a few good looking blue strobe lights but thats about it. It showed me that now days games are shams, real, quality gameplay is so hard to find, and you need to be careful of **** like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Lame Lantern


    Half Life 2 bored the hell out of me. All of Valve's output is very bland with the exception of the Portal games. They've invested a lot of money into convcining "journalists" of their creative credentials but all of their games have been cheap to develop and positioned to profit on broad trends in gaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Recent FPS's like Call of Duty Neir One - I want to shoot and kill folk not babysit a bunch of whinging marines or whoever.

    Bioshock 2 - 1 was just ok - heard 2 was better - it was worse - traded it in after a few levels sick to my teeth with it. Infinite - go take a running jump.

    Mass Effect 2 - BadEyeGuy you have it spot on. Added to that I used to enjoy the searching of planets on the old buggy. Felt just too structured and by the numbers.

    All but the early Tomb Raiders - think the developers got too caught up there in their own media spin instead of focussing on what made the originals great.

    Red Faction 2 - ended that chain of games for me.

    Metal Gear Solid - I'm a box... enough said. Way too many cut scenes - I want to play my games not be tied to a chair wondering if I am going to miss something. Saying that there is something about it though - hate being beaten by a game...

    Sports games - well except for WipeOut - go out and kick a ball.

    The Sims - get a life or just try talking to someone...

    Nicely surprised by:
    Oblivion - lost weeks there - ok parts were repetitive but I love it.
    Beyond Good and Evil - simple game - left it feeling happy and relaxed
    Legacy of Kain series - the whole reason I bought a 2nd hand PS2 when my 1st Gen ps3 crapped it. Got the first one in a bargain bin - hooked ever since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Dragon Age 2.

    What a crappy game throw out just for a quick buck. Same dungeon maps repeatly, horrible mob spawns, uninteresting characters and boring story.

    I loved DA:O. DA2 gave me a sad :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Halo (in general): Over-hyped fanboy mediocrity. I played the original when it first came out, and it done nothing but convince me that space shooters are crap. Why should i have to empty 3 magazines and a few grenades to kill something? Even CoD isn't that bad.

    Dragon Age 2: I was so looking forward to this, after playing Origins i had high hopes, but it was crap. Crap setting, crap story, crap main characters (that avine, or whatever her name is, i just wanted to murder her for being so fugly and annoying). And having a set name? I want my character to be called Bigfloppy Donkeydick. Only interesting thing in it was the slutty one who had a few comedic parts. And no return of Morrigan??? WTF??? Maybe they're saving her for 3, but i won't hold my breath.

    Mass Effect 2: It's like they took the good bits from the first one and made them worse, while changing interactive planatory exploration into a boring click'n'select game. **** sex scenes too :P

    I could keep going, but i'll eventually run out of characters...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Bonavox


    GTA IV - lost the fun that was so great about Grand Theft Auto.

    Red Dead - Sprawled, repetitive and boring, very little to do instead of being the NPC's bitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    the mass effect series
    the GTA series


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,012 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Killzone 2 - evidence that solid technology is by no means an indicator of quality. The dullest, most lifeless FPS series I have ever played. There's nothing wrong with the basic gunplay in many regards, but it's complete lack of identity, spectacularly mediocre level design (all the best setpieces aren't interactive) and an art style that is beyond lazy makes it a complete slog to work through. Genuinely overrated, and was glad Killzone 3 attracted the critical apathy / borderline hostility the second one should have received.

    Dragon Age Origins - it may have been a dodgy console port (I played on 360), but this is a game I just couldn't bring myself to waste more time on. The story and characters are sub-Tolkien in the most embarrassingly generic way. The dungeon design is laughable awful - walking into rooms until you trigger the invisible trigger point and receive uninteresting loot (compare it to something far more rewarding like Torchlight where repetition is actually engrossing). Don't get me started on the 'mature' content (about as mature as a Carry On film), the reams of uninteresting text and a complete lack of variety. Also, shoddy AI even when given instructions, plus an ever uneven difficulty curve. Yes, it may channel the spirit of RPGs old: doesn't mean its competent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Arkham Asylum, just didn't get the hype, it was alright not "Z0mg d1s game r0ckz". Still mantain if it was anybody else about batman noone would've given 2 hoots about it.

    Call of the duty, the series as a whole, been playing FPs since Doom 2 and i just never got this series, it was the first game that brought in oh look a vast open area but you can only go down this path, a 1 foot shrub, you can't jump over it, lol don't be stoopid. the game is mind numbingly bland.

    Halo, maybe if i wasn't an FPS vet, i might've got it, but i don't.

    Gears of War, i've made 4 good attempts to get into the series and i just can't, don't particularly dislike the game but can't see the hype.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    Woah, I've never seen so much hate for the big name games in one thread! I'm sitting here, trying to think if there is one 'awesome/popular' game that I really hate, but I've got nothing - just a few that I dislike.

    GTAIV has been mentioned countless times in this thread. I've never heard anyone say it was awesome or great. It is good, but it gets boring and repetitive very quickly. Every mission is just rinse and repeat with a 5 minute drive across the map added in. GTA Vice City was the last great GTA game, since then they've been fairly drab.

    Dragon Age Orgins, in my opinion, wasn't great. To me it was just like World of Warcraft but without the community. I thought I'd love it, but it just bored me.

    Enslaved is another one I couldn't get into. The world looked amazing; visually it was beautiful. But the simple gameplay combined with the lack of any interesting character (I haven't met Pigsy yet - I hear he's great), just couldn't keep me interested. I like games to be a bit of a challenge and to have a decent story line. Enslaved has neither. The character development (or lack of) didn't really suit the story either. The female straps a suicidal head band to the males head because she doesn't trust him. Two minutes later they seem to be best friends and she trusts him with her life. How does that work?

    I loved most of the games getting a bashing here; Killzone, Mass Effect, Red Dead, LA Noire, MGS4, Assassins Creed, Fallout 3.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    I think as games are turning into interactive movies they're becoming less fun. I want to play, not watch badly scripted dialogue with generic voice acting concerning a dull and imitative plot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Notorious wrote: »
    Woah, I've never seen so much hate for the big name games in one thread! I'm sitting here, trying to think if there is one 'awesome/popular' game that I really hate, but I've got nothing - just a few that I dislike.

    GTAIV has been mentioned countless times in this thread. I've never heard anyone say it was awesome or great. It is good, but it gets boring and repetitive very quickly. Every mission is just rinse and repeat with a 5 minute drive across the map added in. GTA Vice City was the last great GTA game, since then they've been fairly drab.

    Dragon Age Orgins, in my opinion, wasn't great. To me it was just like World of Warcraft but without the community. I thought I'd love it, but it just bored me.

    Enslaved is another one I couldn't get into. The world looked amazing; visually it was beautiful. But the simple gameplay combined with the lack of any interesting character (I haven't met Pigsy yet - I hear he's great), just couldn't keep me interested. I like games to be a bit of a challenge and to have a decent story line. Enslaved has neither. The character development (or lack of) didn't really suit the story either. The female straps a suicidal head band to the males head because she doesn't trust him. Two minutes later they seem to be best friends and she trusts him with her life. How does that work?

    I loved most of the games getting a bashing here; Killzone, Mass Effect, Red Dead, LA Noire, MGS4, Assassins Creed, Fallout 3.....

    Haters gonna hate m8 :) Cant believe how many HL2 haters their are !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭Healium


    BigEyeGuy wrote: »
    Mass Effect 2.
    Being very careful, I only buy games that i know are going to be good and received good reviews.
    I looked almost everywhere and ME2 got only amazing reviews and
    Totally Rad Show recommended it, i thought it would be a good purchase.
    After playing a bit, i realized i was fooled. The slick media machine, paid reviews and blinded game journalists, could not expose the truth.
    ME2 is a ****ing piece of **** of a game, no gameplay, no strategy, mash special abilities, flaccid action, buggy game all around, a few good looking blue strobe lights but thats about it. It showed me that now days games are shams, real, quality gameplay is so hard to find, and you need to be careful of **** like that.
    I have no problem with anyone bashing a game, but that is total BS. I've done about 5 playthroughs, and can't remember coming across a single bug.

    As for the journalist conspiracy theory, I'll just throw in the standard rolleyes... :rolleyes: It's also averaging a 90 in user reviews, less than 10% are negative. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/mass-effect-2

    If you're going to complain about a game, at least make rational complaints. Otherwise, people will just disregard your whole comment. I don't know if anyone else here would call ME2 " piece of ****". Yeah, you might not like it, but you get a lot of bang for your buck, considering it's €10 new. There are a lot of worse games out there.

    As for the other complaints, turn the difficulty up to Insanity and see how you do by spamming abilities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Carl Sagan


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    MGS4: Anyone that thought it had a good story and was a satisfying conclusion to the series is an idiot. Gameplay wasn't great either.

    I thought it had a great story. Wasn't a great conclusion to the series though :(


    Final Fantasy games. They annoyed me too much to play. It's a shame because I was looking forward to starting them too.

    GTA4. It was good, but wasn't as fun as the rest of the games. Liberty City Stories fixed that though.


    I'll have to have a think about it because I know there are a load of games I thought were ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Healium wrote: »
    I have no problem with anyone bashing a game, but that is total BS. I've done about 5 playthroughs, and can't remember coming across a single bug.

    As for the journalist conspiracy theory, I'll just throw in the standard rolleyes... :rolleyes: It's also averaging a 90 in user reviews, less than 10% are negative. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/mass-effect-2

    If you're going to complain about a game, at least make rational complaints. Otherwise, people will just disregard your whole comment. I don't know if anyone else here would call ME2 " piece of ****". Yeah, you might not like it, but you get a lot of bang for your buck, considering it's €10 new. There are a lot of worse games out there.

    As for the other complaints, turn the difficulty up to Insanity and see how you do by spamming abilities.

    In fairness there is one major bug which doesn't self correct forcing you to reload the game and thats when Shepard gets stuck in mid air between scene geometry. In addition I won't discount that a lot of people liked the game based on its own merits though I will say that if you've got journalists saying this is the greatest game ever, you can have a group think effect occur whereby people want to believe its amazing because someone told them to and then they'll post their views on the net, other people will read them and will want to believe the same thing, until you get an aggregate result of everyone thinking the game is great because they've duped themselves into liking it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Demons Souls, absolutely despised that game, combat thats beyond clunky, replaying 45 minute sections having to do everything again because you were instakilled by walking in a door at the wrong time, ludicrously difficult from the getgo, I dont mind a challenge, but doing everything from scratch again EVERY time you die? fcuk that sh1t.

    MGS4: I dont hate it, when its good its great, but sweet jeeeesus its pretentious drivel 99% of the time, and those fcuking fried egg cutscenes...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    This thread makes me want to pull my hair out !!! SCREW YOU GUYS !!!

    MGS... HL2... and now demons souls !!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Mindkiller


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Final Fantasy XII: required you to run around in circles between battles to raise MP.
    Doing it wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Magill wrote: »
    This thread makes me want to pull my hair out !!! SCREW YOU GUYS !!!

    MGS... HL2... and now demons souls !!! :D

    I dont know how anyone cant like HL2, playing it now it may seen old but back in 2004 when it came out it was phenomenal looking, I upgraded my pc just to play that


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    upgrade your computer again and play the half life 2 cinematic mod, it looks unbelievable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    upgrade your computer again and play the half life 2 cinematic mod, it looks unbelievable

    I has no pc anymore :( only have me laptop now as got out of pc gaming a few years back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    upgrade your computer again and play the half life 2 cinematic mod, it looks unbelievable

    please more?

    what is this sorcery you talking about my friend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    In addition I won't discount that a lot of people liked the game based on its own merits though I will say that if you've got journalists saying this is the greatest game ever, you can have a group think effect occur whereby people want to believe its amazing because someone told them to and then they'll post their views on the net, other people will read them and will want to believe the same thing, until you get an aggregate result of everyone thinking the game is great because they've duped themselves into liking it.

    That seems a little bit far fetched in my opinion. A journalist is just a person - their opinion and standards will differ from the next person's. Just because X person from X magazine says Mass Effect is the best creation since the wheel, I can't a see majority of people agreeing with him for the sake of it. While some people would just like to be seen as a fanboy of the next big thing, they'd have to be in the minority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭Healium


    In fairness there is one major bug which doesn't self correct forcing you to reload the game and thats when Shepard gets stuck in mid air between scene geometry. In addition I won't discount that a lot of people liked the game based on its own merits though I will say that if you've got journalists saying this is the greatest game ever, you can have a group think effect occur whereby people want to believe its amazing because someone told them to and then they'll post their views on the net, other people will read them and will want to believe the same thing, until you get an aggregate result of everyone thinking the game is great because they've duped themselves into liking it.
    Stuck in mid-air? :D Got a YouTube link?

    I don't think anyone really said that it was the greatest game ever, but it was a fantastic game, even though it had many flaws, much like RDR. Some people loved those games, others never got into it at all. In fairness, the game is well over a year old, and any pre-conceptions are long gone. By now, pretty much everyone will have their own opinion on the game from it's personal merits

    As I said, I'm a massive ME fanboy, but I don't have a problem with people making legitimate complaints. However, it's totally unfair to say that Mass Effect 2 was really buggy, when it's one of those rare games nowadays where you may never encounter a bug, and yet Bethesda get raving reviews for releasing broken games. It's also totally unfair (and a bit childish) to suggest that journalists were bribed to give the game glowing reviews, simply because you didn't like it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Healium wrote: »
    It's also totally unfair (and a bit childish) to suggest that journalists were bribed to give the game glowing reviews, simply because you didn't like it.

    this whole "journos being paid for good reviews" thing is complete nonsense

    heres how it generally works:

    publisher puts on events and flies journos out to it, they pay for hotel, grub and plenty of booze. you get to play the games many times pre release and speak to the people making them. this gives the game plenty of pre release hype, but also means that there's a slightly chance you're going to be a little bit nicer to it when the game rolls around

    come release, the publisher might then decide to do a big advertising campaign. theyll employ a pr company who will in turn buy an ad in a publication from which theyve gotten plenty of coverage due to bringing their writers on these press junkets, but the chances are that the person reviewing the game won't have any idea that the advert exists. theyll write their review based on their opinion of the game (and again ill say that's often improved if the publisher was nice when it came to press events) and itll be sent off for publication.

    ive very rarely heard of anything resembling advertisers having any kind of effect on content. believe it or not, the pr guys buying the adverts dont give a toss what scores the game gets. they just want to make sure that the game is given plenty of coverage

    if it gets a good score thats a bonus, but their job is to secure the advertising space, and more often than not theyre working under their own steam (funded by the publisher, yes, but their choice of places to advertise is entirely their own)

    thats it in a nutshell

    developer > makes game, answers journo queries
    publisher > brings publisher to meet developers and play game
    pr company > buys advertising for publisher

    the only ones who REALLY care about scores in all this is the developer


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