Games people think are awesome which you think suck

Grayditch · 19-06-2011 2:42pm

Halo 3
Halo: Reach
L.A Noire
Red Dead Retirement Home
Crackdown
Gears Of War 2 Online Meat Head Jockfest
Call Of Duty Single player games after 10 mins
Call Of Duty Multiplayer games after 10 days
That last Final Fantasy set in a long tunnel
Batman Claustrophobia Adventure Asylum

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Any game which prevents me from being the master at any given moment.

Canis Lupus · 19-06-2011 2:46pm

Healium wrote: »

Stuck in mid-air? Got a YouTube link?

Happened a few times to me, running along suddenly you're up on a stack of crates and whilst Shepherd can fight off hordes of aliens and robots and do weird and crazy 'telekinetic' stuff he was seemingly unable to jump down off them.....

krudler · 19-06-2011 2:47pm

Grayditch wrote: »

Halo 3
Halo: Reach
L.A Noire
Red Dead Retirement Home
Crackdown
Gears Of War 2 Online Meat Head Jockfest
Call Of Duty Single player games after 10 mins
Call Of Duty Multiplayer games after 10 days
That last Final Fantasy set in a long tunnel
Batman Claustrophobia Adventure Asylum

...

Any game which prevents me from being the master at any given moment.

master of what? unlocking?

Grayditch · 19-06-2011 2:48pm

Just, the master.

Healium · 19-06-2011 2:49pm

Helix wrote: »

believe it or not, the pr guys buying the adverts dont give a toss what scores the game gets. they just want to make sure that the game is given plenty of coverage

Unless you're an amateur

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/35262/2K_Games_Drops_PR_Firm_Following_Duke_Nukem_Forever_Blackball_Threats.php

Morlar · 19-06-2011 2:50pm

Metal gear solid. Halo was totally over-rated imo.

krudler · 19-06-2011 2:51pm

Grayditch wrote: »

Just, the master.

theres probably some Japanese dominatrix game that would enable that

krudler · 19-06-2011 2:52pm

Halo is pretty but soulless tbh, and The Flood is single handedly the worst enemy ever in a video game, awful,awful design when they come into it, was playing 3 and enjoying it, then along comes the flood, sigh, just wanted it to be over at that stage was charging through the levels not taking them in

Helix · 19-06-2011 3:00pm

Healium wrote: »

Unless you're an amateur

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/35262/2K_Games_Drops_PR_Firm_Following_Duke_Nukem_Forever_Blackball_Threats.php

thats not buying reviews though

thats just saying "we wont give you review copies any more"

and the pr company were fired for it

Retr0gamer · 19-06-2011 3:32pm

Mindkiller wrote: »

Doing it wrong

What was I meant to do? Buy horribly over priced ethers and go through them like a whino goes through bottles of buckfast? I'd have no money left to buy anything else. Or else bore the arse off myself grinding? No thanks to both.

Mindkiller · 19-06-2011 4:08pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

What was I meant to do? Buy horribly over priced ethers and go through them like a whino goes through bottles of buckfast? I'd have no money left to buy anything else. Or else bore the arse off myself grinding? No thanks to both.

You can equip a gambit which makes characters cast osmose when their mp is low. If you don't have osmose you can make them use charge instead. You'll never run out of mp this way.

MP is a problem in all FFs. And ethers have always been expensive.

Retr0gamer · 19-06-2011 4:14pm

I've played all the FF games and never had any trouble with MP. Might have used the odd ether for a particularly tough fight. I'd usually have tonnes of them by the end game unused.

I did use osmose when I eventually got it later in the game and it did what the the game really didn't need, drag out the battles even longer.

Mindkiller · 19-06-2011 4:27pm

I never found the battles in XII long at all. On the contrary, I found without all the camera panning, character animations, victory screens and loading screens they were over quite quickly. My guys would just run ahead and have a scrap. Done.

The only fights that were long were the hunts, but they're meant to be extremely difficult. People would complain that it was much too easy otherwise

The only thing I found really dumb about XII was how you had to wait untill the end of the game to buy all the gambits. I mean, that's like roughty equivalent to locking the cover system in Gears of War until the last level or not allowing melee attacks in CoD until you're halfway through or whatever

I was disappointed when XIII did away with the seamless combat of XII. And that game really took the cake for stupidly long encounters with non-boss enemies. Took me about 6-8 minutes at a time to kill those crab-armadillo-lizards that pop up everwhere.

Retr0gamer · 19-06-2011 4:31pm

I found that I had my gambits set up so well that I was watching all the battles in FFXII rather than taking part at all. It's telling that I only managed to finish the game because it was the only game I could play one handed when I broke my hand. All I needed was to move the analogue stick and watch the battles play out themselves. I much preferred the much more involved battle system of FFXIII where you actually had input and there was strategy.

I won't deny the bosses and hunts of FFXII didn't work well. It's just unfortunate that getting to these points where the battle system actually works was littered with boridng fights that involved watching the AI fight.

Looking forward to last story and xenoblade, early indications suggest that they are FFXII done right.

Wolfe Tone · 19-06-2011 4:33pm

Halo and Portal. Hate both of them.

Grayditch · 19-06-2011 4:53pm

Hating on Portal. Just wrong.

krudler · 19-06-2011 5:42pm

Grayditch wrote: »

Hating on Portal. Just wrong.

I agree, one of the smartest, funniest games ever made.

Corkfeen · 19-06-2011 5:50pm

GTA IV seems to be the obvious choice to be honest. But i'm really stunned by all this hate for HL 2 in fact I started playing Half Life 1 the other day for the first time in 5 years. And am now in process of reinstalling hl2 thanks to this thread.

Wolfe Tone · 19-06-2011 6:23pm

krudler wrote: »

I agree, one of the smartest, funniest games ever made.

Each to their own, I just don't like it at all.

Jet Black · 19-06-2011 6:24pm

Thought command and conquer generals was terrible. Only other C&C I've played since was tiberian wars which was just as bad.

Sephiroth_dude · 19-06-2011 7:51pm

bioshock

19-06-2011 7:58pm

Halo - completely hate it

Assasins creed - boring

Sisko · 19-06-2011 8:04pm

Most of the game listed in this thread that people deemed 'bad games' I would more say 'not the kinda of games I would enjoy'

But one game where being utterly neutral and unbiased critically about it and still have it considered a bad game comes to mind.....

MGS4.

I beat it recently, as a homage to my old ps1 days, I loved mgs1 as a kid.

But to honestly say that MGS4 is a good game is wrong. You are either a massive MGS fan in general and thus enjoy the game for what it is...another MGS game - or you can see it for what it is, a 6/10 game at best.

Anyone that says they are neutral and that its still an excellent game are just totally and utterly talking out of their arses.

You can enjoy it as a MGS fan for sure - but its still a bad game. What little game there is - is badly outdated. The cut scenes are largely over written and badly directed. Its not all terrible, there's some good visuals, artwork and humour. I thought the mini metal gears - the small tanks with legs, were very good.

On the opposite side someone may say HALF LIFE 2 is a crap game - but that just means its not their type of game, the game itself however is excellent.

Someone's opinion that it wasn't good will never change it. Just like someones opinion that MGS4 is the best game ever made doesnt change the fact that its a pretty underwhelming game.

Retr0gamer · 19-06-2011 8:18pm

I'ma big MGS fan and found MGS4 bad.

krudler · 19-06-2011 8:27pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'ma big MGS fan and found MGS4 bad.

Rex vs Ray was friggin epic though

Retr0gamer · 19-06-2011 8:32pm

Maybe if the controls didn't suck and and it wasn't more annoying than fun. The scale felt off as well. It felt like two miniatures fighting instead of huge lumbering robots.

Mr. Presentable · 19-06-2011 8:33pm

Monopoly. And all other "opoly" games.

krudler · 19-06-2011 8:36pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Maybe if the controls didn't suck and and it wasn't more annoying than fun. The scale felt off as well. It felt like two miniatures fighting instead of huge lumbering robots.

MGS4 has some cool setpieces, returning to Shadow Moses was really cool, loads of nods to the original game, and the final boss fight wasnt anything near as cool as The Boss in MGS3 though, I really must play that again actually, time to dig out the ps2

Helix · 19-06-2011 8:38pm

mgs

theres another series i think is pant actually

Retr0gamer · 19-06-2011 8:48pm

krudler wrote: »

MGS4 has some cool setpieces, returning to Shadow Moses was really cool, loads of nods to the original game, and the final boss fight wasnt anything near as cool as The Boss in MGS3 though, I really must play that again actually, time to dig out the ps2

Thought the final boss was one of the worst bosses ever, definitely the worst for the series. Also the nods to the original I found were pure pandering to nostalgia. It's like it knew allit had going for it was a sense of nostalgia and even then it couldn't pull it off properly. I couldn't even say the game had goos set pieces because in the gameplay sections it was all quite bland while the cutscenes were bat **** insane when something did happen and not in a good way.

krudler · 19-06-2011 9:02pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Thought the final boss was one of the worst bosses ever, definitely the worst for the series. Also the nods to the original I found were pure pandering to nostalgia. It's like it knew allit had going for it was a sense of nostalgia and even then it couldn't pull it off properly. I couldn't even say the game had goos set pieces because in the gameplay sections it was all quite bland while the cutscenes were bat **** insane when something did happen and not in a good way.

It did annoy me how Raiden is a wrecking machine in 4 and a wuss in 2 when you got to play as him, when I was him he was getting all sappy and yapping on the phone to Rose and getting all existential. When I didnt get to play as him he was using samurai swords between his toes, cutting through Gekko like they were butter and stopping an entire ship with his fingernails or something, bah.

deathrider · 19-06-2011 10:43pm

Personally, I thought any MGS games after the first one that appeared on PS1 were pretty boring.

NeoKubrick · 19-06-2011 10:48pm

Sisko wrote: »

But to honestly say that MGS4 is a good game is wrong.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is a good game. Metal Gear Solid 4 wasn't my favourite, but the first three levels and boss battles did certainly live up to the hype, and then it drifted a bit. My main complaint of the game would be that it was too short, and should have had at least two more settings like the first two levels after the third. It was still a very good game, but didn't match the very high standard MGS3 set (it did remove one major flaw of its predecessor in implementing the Octo-camo).

To claim that Metal Gear Solid 4 is a bad or average game is inventing something that isn't there and demonstrates an ignorance of the third-person gaming genre as mentioning Halo: Combat Evolved is an ignorance of FPS genre, combat and AI design, Final Fantasy XII an ignorance of the RPG genre, and Half-Life series and The Elder Scrolls series, an ignorance of Gaming. Inexplicable.

Retr0gamer · 19-06-2011 10:56pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

NeoKubrick · 19-06-2011 11:04pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

It's bad form to ruin a good scene in a good film with your misunderstanding of 'opinion' and 'argument'.

Mr. K · 19-06-2011 11:13pm

deathrider wrote: »

Personally, I thought any MGS games after the first one that appeared on PS1 were pretty boring.

Even Snake Eater?! I think it's as good as the first one. In fact, depending on my mood, sometimes I'd say it's better.

I really enjoyed MGS4, the only complaints I have are that the cutscenes are too long and

Big Boss' return seemed a bit pointless

.

I wouldn't say they suck, but I think Halo and CoD are massively overrated and don't deserve the attention they get.

krudler · 19-06-2011 11:29pm

deathrider wrote: »

Personally, I thought any MGS games after the first one that appeared on PS1 were pretty boring.

sacrilege! MGS3 is fantastic, any game that has climbing a ladder in place of a boss fight has got to be worth playing :pac:

Sisko · 20-06-2011 12:31am

NeoKubrick wrote: »

Inexplicable.

Its pretty simple. From a neutral gaming perspective and not that of a fan boy, MGS4 is not a very good game.

Fact.

Whether you enjoyed it or not is irrelevant. Nor does it change this fact.

Don't even get me started on Halo or Oblivion. But at least they belong more in the over rated (by their fans) category. Where as MGS4 is simply and utterly mediocre.

Anyone with the ability to critically analyse a game from a neutral stand point will state this as a fact.

Chairman Meow · 20-06-2011 1:15am

krudler wrote: »

sacrilege! MGS3 is fantastic, any game that has climbing a ladder in place of a boss fight has got to be worth playing :pac:

Do people actually enjoy that bit, or is it just people being ironic? I got to that bit and ****canned MGS3. It was a crap game anyway. All that arsing about eating ****ing animals and changing camoflague and stuff. And the bosses were so crap. Heres the boss with the mouthful of bees and when he talks he shoots bees at you...****s sake..not to mention the way they tried and failed miserably to implement CQC. Terrible game. But pretty much all the mgs games have been overhyped to all hell after mgs1. That was the only one int he series that was actually bloody brilliant. After that it was downhill, fast.

Grayditch · 20-06-2011 2:47am

Haha, the amount of Matter Of Fact posts on pretty subjective matters.

Seamus Aran · 20-06-2011 2:51am

Sisko wrote: »

Its pretty simple. From a neutral gaming perspective and not that of a fan boy, MGS4 is not a very good game.

Fact.

Whether you enjoyed it or not is irrelevant. Nor does it change this fact.

Surely whether or not someone enjoys a game is the only criteria it can be judged by? What else is a game good for?

Magill · 20-06-2011 3:02am

ARMA 2 - What a truely god awful game.... fact !

:rolleyes:

jimbob86 · 20-06-2011 3:14am

Remember the die hard game for ps1? that would make a good film......or hitman,silent hill,tomb raider,the godfather or the harry potter games would all make good films

Notorioux · 20-06-2011 3:47am

Alice: Madness Returns... :cool:

RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.....

bradlente · 20-06-2011 4:11am

MGS 4,Practically an interactive movie.

humanji · 20-06-2011 9:22am

I don't think MGS4 belongs in this thread as it appears the majority think it was rubbish. It's a travesty of a game.

I didn't like Half-Life 2 when it came out. To me it was just a fairly generic and linear FPS. It wasn't until Episode 2 that it became interesting. But then again, I'm fairly biased against it as I was a huge fan of the original and was desperately waiting for it to be released. When it came out with Steam, it took longer to install than it did to finish. I've never gotten over that. But on a plus side, if that's the biggest thing I have to worry about in life I'm doing well.

I've been trying to think if there's any other games I really hated, but I'm coming up blank. There's plenty of games I wasn't keen on, but I could see why others would like them. I don't like Demon Souls for example, but I completely understand why people would like it. MGS4 is the only game that I honestly can't understand why anybody could like it.

NoDice · 20-06-2011 9:35am

I loved the ME series, I'll be like a little kid at Christmas when 3 comes out.

Hated Fable 3. They didn't change anything about it gameplay and powers wise and they made it even simpler. The bosses didn't get any more challenging and you could finish the game by walking through it and frantically pressing A and X. The only good thing about the end of it was that the game was finally over. For all the reviews and good press it got and the work that went into it, and the bloody wait, it was one of my biggest disappointments of the year.

gloobag · 20-06-2011 9:52am

Anything with "Persona" in the title.

Helix · 20-06-2011 10:27am

bradlente wrote: »

MGS 4,Practically an interactive movie.

not very interactive though, thats the problem

hooradiation · 20-06-2011 11:14am

Grayditch wrote: »

Haha, the amount of Matter Of Fact posts on pretty subjective matters.

That is the only sane thing in this entire train wreck of a thread.

Games people think are awesome which you think suck

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