Dublin Mint Office- Just when you thought you were safe-

Hi,

My mother is another sufferer of the Dublin mint office unsavioury terms of trade. (they are not scam artists, they just stretch the limits of the legal terms of doing business.

Dublin mint office info for future reference - -

Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act, 1980
Unsolicited goods.

47.—(1) Where—

(a) unsolicited goods are sent to a person with a view to his acquiring them and are received by him, and

(b) the recipient has neither agreed to acquire nor agreed to return them,

and either—

(i) during the period of six months following the date of receipt of the goods the sender did not take possession of them and the recipient did not unreasonably refuse to permit the sender to do so, or

(ii) not less than 30 days before the expiration of that period the recipient gave notice to the sender and during the following 30 days the sender did not take possession of the goods and the recipient did not unreasonably refuse to permit the sender to do so,

then the recipient may treat the goods as if they were an unconditional gift to him and any right of the sender to the goods shall be extinguished.

(2) The notice referred to in subsection (1) shall be in writing and shall state—

(a) the recipient's name and address and the address at which the sender may take possession of the goods (if not the same) and

(b) that the goods are unsolicited.

(3) A person who, not having reasonable cause to believe there is a right to payment, in the course of any business, makes a demand for payment, or asserts a present or prospective right to payment for what he knows are unsolicited goods sent to another person with a view to his acquiring them, shall be guilty of an offence.

(4) A person who, not having reasonable cause to believe there is a right to payment in the course of any business and with a view to obtaining any payment for what he knows or ought to know are unsolicited goods—

(a) threatens to bring any legal proceedings,

(b) places or causes to be placed the name of any person on a list of defaulters or debtors or threatens to do so, or

(c) invokes or causes to be invoked any other collection procedure or threatens to do so,

shall be guilty of an offence.

(5) In this section—

“acquire” includes hire,

“send” includes deliver,

“sender” includes any person on whose behalf or with whose consent the goods are sent and any other person claiming through or under the sender or any such person,

“unsolicited” means, in relation to goods sent to any person, that they are sent without any prior request by him or on his behalf.

Hi from this it can be assumed if you recieve any unsolicted mail - i.e. coins etc - next time send the dublin mint office a letter by registered post saying the goods are available for collection --- You are not required to return the goods!

If they do not collect the goods within the time limits the goods are yours -- you can ignore other letters etc requiring payment as they have no case.

They will keep sending additional coins/letters etc anyway as most members already know!!

I intend on getting a garda witness for any future coins that come and letters I post back.

Pretty sure thats the case with these issues - other opinions welcome with regard to my take on this matter

all the best

U2ME

Don't waste any time on these people it is just a <SNIP> plain and simple.

They sent out a few unsolicited coins last year (after my mother bought one).

They then sent out letters demanding ever increasing amounts of money which I just binned. I never once responded to any communication and they eventually left us alone. I imagine your problem is that once you engaged them they thought they had you on the hook. I also kept the extra (crappy) coins they sent out because it's not my job to go to the post office and send back their tat.

Just ignore them; they are nothing but <SNIP>. It's especially upsetting when you consider that many of the people who would engage these <SNIP> are pensioners and might end up paying.

phi3 wrote: »

Just got this email from collections@rfpcredit.ie now :rolleyes:
All of a sudden now they seem to have found a coin I sent back to them but not the other. Strange when I sent them all in one package :rolleyes:



Good Afternoon Phi3,

Dublin Mint Office are saying they have received the Monaco medal back
but the Vatican is still outstanding.

They are looking for you to send in proof of postage, if you do not
have this then Dublin Mint Office are saying you are still liable for
payment for the coin.

Best Regards

<SNIP>

Gardai, this must be close to extortion

As per my study on internet, Irish Central Bank is the official mint supplier in Ireland. The Dublin Mint Office also has a sister company called London Mint Office. Both are on the same business (One sells Euro coin and other on Pound coins) and they are mis-selling the clients with their own products.

All of their first coins in a series will have a prize €10 and the rest will have €50 or more.

Now they have their own gold coins, which are minted by themselves, but giving a feeling that they are from their respective countries. They are also giving €100 discount. Those coins are only half a gram and costs around €399.

From my experience, it is just another way of mis-selling or a business with a good sense of marketing.

The Dublin Mint Office aka Samlerhuset Group from Norway also own London Mint Office, and similar operations in Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Estonia, China, Latvia, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Slovakia, Belgium and Hungary. They have connections to legal minting operations in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Baltic countries. They also have connections to Nobel Prize organisation, FIFA and Olympic organisations. In other words they are extremely well connected.

They are an international mail order company headquartered in either Holland or Norway. They sell mainly traditional collectibles such as coins, medals, stamps, banknotes and coin-letters. They had 400 employees in 2010 and a turnover of 160 million euro. There is zero information about WHO is behind the Samlerhuset Group. It is extremely well hidden, therefore advice would be to steer well clear. An expose of this corporation is well overdue.

A Norwegian expose in 2011 showed Samlerhuset have prices 2-3 times that of the average market price.

They have been slapped on the knuckles by the Norwegian Consumer Authority, and also Advertising Standards Authorities in both the UK and Ireland.

Sharp practice includes misleading wording for their products, no relevant weight or material content description for coins, default opt-in to trickle feed coin collections when only single coin advertised, sending unsolicited products and then promptly threatening debt collection, and obviously offering extremely poor value for money while implying the exact opposite.

They initially used the Brian Boru harp as their logo without the permission of the state. They were subsequently barred from doing so. They then changed their logo to exactly match that of the Irish Stock Exchange.

Note that debt collectors can be safely ignored in Ireland , as they have no more legal power than you or I, and can be easily banned from threatening you. They are extremely unlikely to take anyone to court over the price of one these junk coins. UK is a different situation.

Currently I have received the latest "offer" from these <SNIP>. The latest "deal" from the Dublin Mint Office / Samlerhuset Group is a Brian Boru commemorative which is: "fully layered in PURE Silver". It can be "viewed on approval for up to 14 days" for just €24.95. "Struck to the highest possible quality - Proof". It seems "Proof" is a meaningless non-enforceable standard.

Their new interface is Martin Clement, Head of Special Operations. Tim Banks must've been promoted.

Phoebas wrote: »

Just a heads up...

I got a circular in the post today from The Dublin Mint Office offering a:

FREE Padraig Pearse 100th Anniversary Medal

At first glance this looks like an official letter, and given the year that's in it, you might be fooled into believing that this comes from the Irish Mint.
It doesn't and the people behind it have been the subject of a few threads here before.

People can make up their own minds about whether they want one of these free* medals, but should do so armed with some information:

* +p&p

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056375019
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79691257

Yeah you'd do well to avoid this lot. There's a couple of threads on them here. Their MO is to send unsolicited coins and demand payment, usually threatening with debt collectors and mentioning serious debt etc.

There doesn't seem to be any way, or at least any visible way on their website to cancel any order made.